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I find this thread strangely interesting, like hearing about how straight guys get aroused by this or that part of a female's anatomy, haha. In other words, nothing of the above resonates with me, yet it is somehow intellectually fascinating. I have never found any pleasure from being even tipsy, let along drunk - maybe it's just the control freak in me, wanting to retain full control of my senses at all times - and I'm no fan of alcohol. Yet, I am seeing here a desire to make oneself inebriated (at least partly) and to make the bar boys inebriated too; all the while counting the monetary costs. I guess Bangkok is safe enough for such adventures, but over the years, I've heard of two misadventures from friends of friends. In both instances they were straight. The story from the guy who went to the Philippines (can't remember if it was Manila or Subic) was particularly dreadful. Apparently, or so he believed - I have to allow for the fact that he didn't really remember events well - he was pickpocketed while sitting with several women in a bar, and then when it was time to pay the tab, he was assaulted for having no money. After several hours, some toughies accompanied him back to his hotel and they ransacked his room to find more money. Another story was from someone who went to Greece. Can't remember the details now but it too had something to do with being partially intoxicated amidst bargirls. Over at the Latin American forum, we come across reports from time to time about friends of friends being robbed after a night out, and some of these reports admit that they had been drinking. Sorry, if I sound like a wet blanket....

One member who comes to mind is @Min I like his reports, but he's dormant for long periods -- between trips, I suppose.

Typical solution applied by our favourite bars in Thailand, now being applied at the highest levels of national economic planning: when customer traffic is poor and sales revenue below target, raise prices!

Thats not unusual at all. Likewise not speaking of Malaysia but in China, I cannot access any Google apps or GayGuides if I use the hotel wifi, but if I use my phone roaming (purchased from outside China before I entered the country), I can.

It's not that big a time zone change. Only 5 hours' difference in the northern winter and 4 hours' difference in the northern summer. Try flying from Sydney to anywhere interesting! In any case, one thing about being senior and retired (presumably you are) is that we have all the time on the world. My usual solution when I fly anywhere with more than 6 hours' time zone change is to plan to stay an extra day after arriving in the foreign country; no pressure to do anything other than settle in, walk the neighbourhood and familiarise myself with useful things like where's the nearest convenience store, the nearest ATM, the nearest laundry shop, etc. And sleep as much as I need. If you're slow to adjust, then stay 2 extra days at the start of the holiday. Only costs a bit more compared to flights costs. Cheaper than those who absolutely must fly business class for its flat bed (if any) - and still suffer from jet lag. 🤪

It's already less twinky than in its heyday when Sunnee Plaza was the centre of the action. Some punters miss those days and that scene.

A haircut had better go well. I think most of us would be furious if it didn't; the result might lead to public embarrassment. 😡

I've come across boys working in Type 2, 3 or 4 places, who started off with formal training and a job in a Type 1 place. The two most common reasons they've shared with me for leaving a Type 1 place is that (a) there is a lot of waiting around for just a few customers, so not a lot of tips. This tends to happen in hotel-linked establishments, where most customers choose female therapists; or (b) they get too much work with little rest between one customer and the next. This tends to happen in HealthLand and Prime. I'm sure the attraction of bigger tips in Type 2, 3 or 4 places also factors in, but generally, it is left unsaid. A type 1 place is a shop that is strict about offering only massage, with next to no possibility of sex. A type 2 place is a shop that maintains the fiction that it is about massage and with good reason - because their boys (and girls) are trained; however most boys (and girls) do offer sex in the room, if clients show interest though some service providers may still not offer. A type 3 place also maintains the fiction that it is about massage, but their staff generally have no training in massage, and it is common knowledge among their clients that one visits for some other objective. A type 4 place is open about the fact (in its marketing) that it is about sex.

Should we assume that an enhanced dick was the primary reason you were unhappy with your visit to Fafa? And that poor housekeeping or asking for payment upfront (objectionable though it is to me too) were secondary reasons? I would agree that a place that is essentially a knock shop should have the manager knowing that customers dislike enhanced dicks and the manager should have checked before hiring. Failing to do so would be unacceptable. But it doesn't mean that all the other boys too had enhancements, and therefore a single instance of siliconisation does not warrant, by my books, a complete write-off of the entire shop and its entire stable of boys. @Keithambrose you have hope yet. The last time I encountered an enhanced dick was some years ago in one of the shops opposite the Meridien on Surawong Road. Naturally, it was a big disappointment. Unlike Fafa, these shops are Type 2 - they don't see themselves as being in the sex business - so the managers would not have a right to inspect the genital equipment of their staff (male or female) before hiring. I therefore could not blame the management for my disappointment. Yet, that incident was memorable. After I discovered in the massage room that my guy had been enhanced, I simply decided that I wouldn't do him, and with my eyes mostly closed, let him do me. What resulted was one of the best edging sessions I had. The bugger had skills!

Kuwaitis? 🤣

That's completely opposite to my experience, albeit that it was just one visit and a few years ago. Hope it hasn't gone downhill. The thing about reports and reviews is that to make sense, we really need multiple reports over time. For what I think is a less-frequented place like Fafa, this may be lacking. Same with the Saphan Khwai places. Ever since reader left this board, we haven't had many reports. He was a regular patron of those places. Yet, by all impressions from their social media, they're going strong.

Speaking only of the gogo bars in the patpong area, and including Jupiter on soi 4 and Moonlight, they open around 9, but expect to be the lonely first customer until about 10pm. They start emptying out by 11:30 or midnight.

The problem may be that BTS' Rabbit card also serves as a shopping card, which they have been promoting for years. They make money when cardholders use it that way too. So, I have a sneaky feeling that BTS sees the adoption of credit card gateways as a move that will gradually reduce the need to hold the Rabbit card, which will reduce the shopping side of the business.

Thanks @Foolish for filling us in on the absurd incompetence that night. Yup, the CEO of the airport should also be fired, and some of the line managers too.

Thanks for clearing this up. It sounds like a stupid rule, but then again, maybe "volunteering" has been abused in the past by other expats to earn an income on the side.