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Thank you @vinapu that makes 100% sense. I will keep the names off the public board. It's too big a risk for these guys and many of them are immigrants to Thailand and very vulnerable.

I am happy to name names but I was thinking it was to protect the providers since this is a public forum and they might get in trouble for providing more than a massage. I dont want to cause any of them trouble. Whenever I get a DM I of course tell my fellow brethren here all that they want to know.... @vinapu would welcome your sage guidance here.

Lots of bottoms at Stars and Kman, right near each other. Some of them are straight that will bottom, but most are gay. Also Jey Spa. Just ask the booking agent on Line for what you want and they are pretty good at matchmaking especially if you slip them a 100 baht note the first time you come in.

This is my trip report for our two weekends in Bangkok. We are an older married couple and when we come to Bangkok we invoke the Bangkok Rule in our relationship, and have a great time at the massage spas. We don’t go to saunas or other bars, though I’m hoping we get to go to some of the drag bars this trip. I am purposely not mentioning names for the most part except for one name of an exceptional therapist. It seems like that’s the unofficial rule here, please correct me if I’m mistaken. Otherwise I will attach the spa photos of the therapists. First weekend: We landed at BKK at 23:45, delayed out of Narita due to heavy storms there earlier in the day. Based on what I had seen in this forum, we booked Fast Track with the Sawasdee app along with a buggy and were so happy we did. We were at a very distant gate (they refund the buggy if you are at a close gate) and the professional “butler” met us at the gate and whisked us to immigration, taking us into the VIP lane to the far right. We waited about 10 minutes there but the regular lines were at least an hour, maybe 90 minutes, with some very unhappy looking people. Saturday morning: We went to Stars and chose two “pretty boy” therapists. You know, the ones with the higher tip amounts. As I have heard others on this forum say, the pretty guys just don't try as hard for the most part. It was fine, and I bottomed for the first time in my life (with a condom, on prep). I liked it. Why did I wait so long in life to try this? Turns out, I am a power bottom after being a power top all these years. The VIP room was nice. Not immaculate, but nice, lots of room, bed and massage table. This room became “my” room over the course of our stay as they got to know me at Stars, and I even imported guys from other spas by asking Stars to book them and come to “my” room. One of the VIP rooms has a large jacuzzi tub. They also turn on the AC before the session so the room is nice and cool, unlike Kman and 9-Teen. I am pretty sure that the air conditioners at 9-Teen are just movie props and don’t actually cool. Saturday afternoon: We walked through Silom and my husband went to Paradise (literally) and I went to 9-Teen, the smaller one. The guy outside, W, was a little older and had a nice smile and was more my type. A lot of the guys outside the spas were too young looking. I wanted a man - an older guy. I end up giving advice to the younger ones and worrying about them. Yes, I’m a daddy. W turned out to be one of the best on the trip, and was a good kisser and very patient with me. Not a lot of English (“yes” and “no”) but we made it work. I didn’t get the sense that he books up a lot so I’m mentioning him here. Have at him, boys! The room was hot and the AC was not on until we walked in. We showered and the decent massage turned into sex of course (no mention of tip, so i gave him 1200 at end) and I experienced bottoming with a larger guy than the morning one. I’m guessing 7 inches, maybe a little less, but nice and thick, and always hard. He had a larger cock and I was a little worried about my second bottoming experience but turns out, the big ones feel even better, the little ones slip out, so now I’m a power bottom size queen. Also this therapist was enthusiastic and aimed to please. I had a couple of p-spot orgasms and then a penile orgasm, shooting all over his chest as I rode him. He seemed like he might cum too but I remember reading here that it can blow the rest of their day, so I slowed down a bit. I was experimenting with positions and trying to figure out what would work to keep him from going into piledriving / jackhammer mode. I guess some of you guys like that because they all seem to do it. I like it slow and steady and like to feel the head of the guy’s cock against my prostate, slowly grinding and teasing it. Now I’m a power bottom size queen control freak. All the therapists seem really focused on you having a cock orgasm, and then the session is over. Nope, been there done that, I want the multiple p-spot orgasms, so get to work and take me to paradise and let’s cuddle at the end. And I paid for 90 mins and that’s what I’m getting even if we sit here and talk about cats. Meow. A word about douching: I was super concerned about this. What to use, how to do it, where and when to do it. One of you mentored me but for the sake of his privacy I won’t mention who told me how to douche. For me, this is what worked: Smaller travel douche from Amazon. Squeeze the bulb then let it suck in purified water from a bottle. Squeeze out any air, lube it and your butt, and insert (feels kind of good once it gets in there, hmmmm again this bottoming thing is pretty great) and swish around. Expel, do it again until all clear. I did it about 2 hours before my appointments but I had trained my bowels on early morning movements and then would book spa appointments for about noon. Here’s the douche I used: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D94B9KWH I had tried larger / anti backflow ones at home and those were a disaster and would have taken up too much luggage room. Way too big and too easy to over douche, causing all sorts of yucky problems. Use purified water which is really important. Your bowels do not have the acids your stomach has to kill harmful bacteria. Do NOT put tap water up there. I did avoid spicy food (well toned it down, guy’s gotta eat) for the most part and figured i might have to take an anti-diarrheal at some point but did not. I read on here that some guys take heavy duty stuff that shuts down their digestion but I dont want to walk around looking like Buddha. Lots of fiber pills and water. Going to bed the first night, my prostate was pulsing like a hungry baby as I thought of the day and looked forward to more tomorrow.

Bad news for US Citizens, as @Travelingguy predicted above: The 33 autogate eligible nationals: Australia Austria Belgium Canada Czech Republic Denmark Finland France Germany Greece (Hellenic Republic) Hong Kong (ALREADY) Hungary Ireland Italy Japan Korea Latvia Luxembourg Malaysia Malta Netherlands New Zealand Norway Poland Portugal Singapore (ALREADY) Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden Switzerland United Arab Emirates United Kingdom

@EricV what's the source of your info above? Do you have an arrticle to share? This from AI: " Will the USA be eligible? The Thai government has not yet published the official list of the 31 selected nationalities. However, the United States is widely expected to be included. Thai authorities have confirmed that they are selecting the eligible countries based on three primary criteria: High rankings on the Henley Passport Index. Low entry-refusal and immigration rejection statistics. Strict national security and legal parameters. Because the US ranks highly across these metrics and its citizens already benefit from visa-exempt entry, travel analysts anticipate it will be on the finalized list."

From reading the article, it sounds like you may be able to use the e-gates now if they have already read your biometric information on a different entry to the country.

Exactly @vinapu, well said. I arrived TWICE in August and both times the lines were horrible. Good for @Olddaddy that he was lucky, but I would not advise arriving at midnight without FastTrack if you would be upset to wait in a very long line. It's a gamble, and the unlucky pay for it with their precious time. We flew all the way from USA so it was the end of a very long journey. Help is on the way however: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/tourism/40069910 Once they deploy the e-gates it will no longer be a gamble and arriving will be as fast as leaving. (We did not book FastTrack for departure.)

I almost hired JJ last weekend as well. I am really glad I didn't. My experience at Jey Spa was also a letdown, and for $100 USD for 90 mins (tip and room) I expected more. In the past I have been very happy with them but I think they need to better vet their masseurs. I gave them feedback via LINE and just got a "sorry."

Happy to help pay it forward on this forum. The arrival queues were epic. I haven't seen anything like that since Bali 10 years ago where the immigration guys were looking for $20 to skip the line. Now Bali is super fast with their e-gates and Da Nang is... not. It was also really hot and we got some nasty looks as we cut the line but I was gleeful as we zoomed to our car and out of there so quickly. Thai Vietjet made us check luggage even though we were business class, but it came out immediately, zero wait, unlike immigration. If Fast Track did not exist, I would not ever return to Da Nang. I've earned my grey hairs and I dont wait in lines like that unless it's the apocalypse.

We spent a few days in Hoi An and checked out two spas there, Gay Male Spa and Rooster Spa. We had booked at Gay Male Spa based on the photos (AI?) we saw on their Facebook page and let me tell you, the therapists who met us there looked nothing like those photos. One of them was quite overweight. The other would have done in a pinch but we decided the vibe was off and left. We then went to Rooster and the receptionist was very nice and spoke great English. However he told us there were no private rooms for massage there so we left. The next day we tried Nom Spa in Da Nang and again "just ok." There were two of us, and we were used to Bangkok style services and facilities. Both are lacking here. The shower looked pretty dirty with huge mildew on the wall, and overall the appearance of the building (after you leave the nicer reception area) was pretty bad. Air con did work well and the therapists were ok (soft services only, strictly) and we felt it was expensive for what we got. Neither of us would return. We are back in Bangkok now and feel like we are back "home" with the excellent spas here. So glad that someone on the forum told us to book Fast Track (via Klook) immigration in Da Nang. The arrival queue would have been easily 2 very hot hours, but we were through in 2 very fast minutes. Exit departure not as bad, maybe 30-45 mins wait, but we again booked Fast Track and were through in 2-4 minutes.

Made my appointment at Stars, went to a guy who another forum member recommended and had a great time. Stars has replaced Jey Spa for me in terms of quality and variety. Can't wait to write this trip report.... I have a LOT to report, including a happy ending at a place where they don't usually give them... (no, not the hotel lobby....)

Just landed 17:00 and again booked buggy and fast track and the door number 5 limo. Huge lines - worse than last week. Our escort from Sawasdee said easily two hours. We got through in 20 to our car and that’s with a bathroom stop. Of course now we are stuck in traffic trying to make our 730 pm spa appointments 😂😂

Has anyone been to Nom Spa in Da Nang?

I need to write a trip report for my weekend in Bangkok. Since I started this thread, I wanted to answer my own question. Based on my extensive experience this weekend (6 "treatments") I would say that T/B straight / gay means very little. The therapist billed as "gay" at Stars told me about his wife and kids, and was definitely not gay. He was very good looking - too good looking - and I remembered people on this forum saying that the ones who are beautiful put in the least effort, and for me that was true. Find a guy who's a little older, needs the job, and he's going to give you the ride of your life, top or bottom. Trip report coming soon, once I catch my breath....