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This raft of new(ish) massage places (including Jey Spa, Klover, History, Senso, Prime, ...) are becoming quite imbedded in gay culture in Bangkok it seems. Overall from what I have seen the "talent" has gone way up, although I must say that doesn't necessarily mean "massage" prowess, which seems to be more and more an afterthought at these places. The prices are high but, as the messages above also attest, seem to be worth the expenditure. I can confirm that as well from my experience. I haven't left disappointed so far. Of course the day will cum I"m sure... The other side of the coin are the shops in Saphan Kwai which are decidedly cheaper (total expenditure maybe 60% of the HiSo ones). But you can get a good bang for your buck.

You are right OD, the term "MB" seems to be a rather new euphemism. These days the apps make it easier to spot MBs from "non-MBs", thank goodness. I have to admit more than once assuming an app profile was a MB when I then had to sheepishly apologize to him for making that assumption. Now it seems the lines are more clear cut.

Well massage appointments do bear some resemblance to a colonoscopy, no? and cum to think about it, they bear some resemblance to the dentist too! In fact I once did fly halfway around the globe to go to the (old) A-Bomb and when arriving I found only 3 "veteran" boys there. Give me appointments anytime over that hit-n-miss experience. I've had very good results in the past few weeks at Jey Spa and 15M in Bangkok. Quality of service at both establishments exceeded expectations. The first a little pricey but decadent and refined. The second much more barebones where the service is the star.

Speaking of the apps, I've noticed more and more straight or married or "discreet" guys on the apps these days (compared to a year ago when I was last here). Some are deep in the closet. More Middle Eastern guys also who want to play. More Indians too. Bangladeshis and way more Africans (many from Madagascar) than ever before. Fewer and fewer Thai guys, the ones who remain are almost exclusively from rural Isaan. Definitely more Myanmar guys too. In summary, interestingly, the scene today looks more like the United Nations than a map of Thailand.

Those off-fees are ridiculous. I'd rather my money go to the working boys not to the mafia and BIBs. I walked by BT two evenings ago and BT Soi 3 (BBB's soi) was dark, the big sign at the entrance to the soi was off, and I could see very little if any activity. There is NO reason I would step foot in that soi (sorry Vinapu, chacun á son goût!) but this is the past of Pattaya certainly not its future. It's future will be appointed massages, the apps and, as always, sweet unexpected chance meeting serendipity.

Christian is right. There are some gems hidden waiting for you to discover. But using the apps can be a real pain in the ... with their incessant and inconvenient breaks in conversation and their repetition. Of course they are hoping you'll break down and pay for the paid option, but some of them (e.g. Grindr) has completely outragenous prices.

There is a solution. It is called rub-a-dub-dub with lots of shampoo, soap and then mouthwash and deodorant. And do remember, it is the Thais that often remark about us smelly falang who can't seem to keep from sweating and smelling. For me my biggest complaint is with smokers. The smoke permeates their hair, their clothes, and no matter how much mouthwash they use I can still smell it on their breath. As for Indians' availability, I see more and more South Asian profiles on the apps -- with Bengalis seeming to be the biggest contingent at the moment. Hooray1

Noticing your nick (msclwrshp), you might want to seek out shops which specialize in more muscular guys. Let me put it this way, JS boys tend to be "classy" hunks, where as some of the shops in Saphan Kwai (for example 15M massage) tend to have more "rough" hunks, if you get my drift. Of course any specific recommendation is fraught with possible disaster as human taste varies too widely, right?

Gosh Shonen, I must say I was taken aback by your comment, sorry, brother. Gosh if I could have a prime porterhouse steak and a Hot Fudge Sundae every day I think I would soon tire from the abundance. I must say I don't share your fantasy because not only would I be fat(ter) than I already am, I'd miss the "hunger pangs" and eager anticipation of the next (possible) great experience.

Oh gosh that is quite a sad story. I think you learned a valuable lesson -- second meetings after months often don't go well. I think what happens if we remember the great experience of the initial meeting, probably enhance it in our minds, and as horniness sets in and time approaches for the next visit, anticipation gets the best of us. We expect something which really can't be delivered. Straight boys are, err, straight, so obviously their emotional attachment is going to different than ours. I don't think you were a cheapskate at all. I just Mr Lao Boy had a different agenda in mind.

Haha, Indeed.

Indeed Keep you are so right. War is so incredibly stupid. I always thought of both Thailand and Cambodia as essentially peace-loving countries at least since the times of Pol Pot. It is interesting how a small border dispute can lead to strife, killings, violence and instability.

Peter, oh no how very sad to see hostilities boil over again.

Gosh Vessey you are right but there is a lot of serendipity involved in many places. My favorite man I found was just standing at the butter counter at Foodmart one fine day. He was great. Of course every time I go to buy "butter" I think of him. The chances for such encounters is great if one tunes their antenna to the right channels... I have a trip coming up soon and thus I am tuning my antenna so reception is improved during my stay there.

Hi everyone, I've been lurking for a while so I've popped back to life here with a long-awaited very-low-season extended visit to Pattaya coming up next month (August). OK so today Iet's talk about "Old" Men and their virtues, hey, I am not talking about myself (although I more than qualify being in my Golden Years!) but rather sweet loveable adorable Thai/Isaan/Burmese/Laotian/Cambodian men who are past (and usually way past) the sunny side of 30yo. I guess I have become the opposite of a twink-seeker. There may be an exception or two but generally I find 20-somethings frighteningly immature and generally uninteresting in the long run. Even more weird I guess is that I prefer guys who are shorter, darker, stronger but not necessarily with the perfect physique. A strong mature guy with some muscle, along perhaps with some love handles from drinking too much beer and eating too much rice, is fine with me. Gay or straight or persuadable. The last thing I have in mind is meeting up with my gay son or (yeegads!) my gay grandson! That's not to say I don't enjoy wiling away an evening at Jomtien Complex, or having a massage at Jey Spa, not at all... it's just really not my true cup-a-tea. Am I alone in this perspective? Peace!