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Eating Thai Food in Gay Thailand When you go to an exotic new country, one of the best parts of the experience can be sampling new taste sensations at the local restaurants. Thailand is no exception. This is a country of culinary delights. From the extra spicy to interestingly sour you will find a wide range of local foods that will delight your taste buds, fill your belly and soak up tons of booze before you hit the town. Thai food is typically spicy and has many herbs and spices; this is for a few reasons. One, Thais love spicy food and two, the spices often have medicinal purposes. Many of us from major western cities already have a fairly good idea of what Thai food is from our own local restaurants. Still, the food here is obviously going to be better, made with local ingredients and not exactly what you expect. The first major difference that you will notice is that there is no knife on your place setting. Instead you get a spoon! This goes back to ancient Buddhist customs where serving someone a large piece of meat would be deeply offensive; so all pieces of meat or fish are already cut into small portions that can be easily brought to your mouth with a Thai spoon. Another big difference is that Thais rarely eat alone and everyone shares each others plates of food. Typically, if two Thais go out together they will order three main courses. If three Thais go out together they will order four main courses, and so on and so on. Soup also comes with every meal; but unlike in the west they dont eat it as a separate course. Instead it is enjoyed at the same time as the main course as a way to incorporate a variety of taste sensations. Almost all Thai meals are served with a plate of rice. Every course brought to you will provide you with complete taste balance. If one part of your meal is very spicy, the other part will be very bland. If part of your meal is sweet, another component will be sour. This is also part of the Buddhist way of looking at meals. A Different Type Of Curry Curry is used in many Thai dishes but in a different way than you will be used to if you associate it with Indian food. Indian curries tend to burn in your mouth for long periods of time Thai curries, on the other hand, tend to burn hotter at first, but quickly diminish in your mouth. Nearly all Thai food is spicy. Hot peppers are in most dishes. If you want non spicy, make sure to request that! Indian curries are also made from dried spices while Thai curries are made from fresh herbs. A Typical Thai Meal A typical Thai meal incorporates many different courses including: * Tidbits: Small items to get your appetite going including spring rolls, satay and puffed rice balls. * Hot Salads: These are often spicy and more often than not have meat or fish in them. * Main course: Served with soup and rice. * Dips: Sometimes a main course all their own, sometimes they are included to be shared as part of the tidbit or main course. They are accompanied by vegetables or small pieces of meat. * Curries: These can also be a main course or stand out on their own. Curries almost always have meat or fish in them. * Desert: Because of how spicy most Thai meals are, Thai deserts are often much sweeter than you may be used to. They may add the pounds but they will be delicious! Remember that Thai's don't differentiate between Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner. So you will not find the wide variety of breakfast foods that you will in most places. There are tons of restaurants that cater to foreigners and that have excellent Breakfast food and buffets. It is not unusual for Thai restaurants to serve food as it is ready. It is not considered rude to begin your meal when your food arrives. I have been to restaurants where I was finished with my meal before my friend's food arrived. This is not uncommon and not considered rude to eat when your plate arrives. It is also not uncommon for a group to order and all share the same meal. I have seen many Thai's order 3 plates of food and then just share at will. If you have an aversion to someone taking food off your plate, you need to make this clear as most people that eat here do so in group settings and it is considered part of the meal to share. Most places you eat will not offer 'real' napkins or paper towels. Instead, they bring you toilet tissue. Again, don't be offended by this. It is just part of the course. You will also notice that after a meal, most Thai's get up and go to the rest room and wash their hands carefully. Tipping is not considered necessary but it is VERY appreciated. I suggest a tip of 20 baht to 100 baht for a meal. It all depends on the price. I know most that read this will disagree but if you have a great meal and you had good service, give a nice tip to your waiter. To do this, you place the tip outside of the bin. If you place the tip inside, it is shared with the entire staff or goes to the owner. If you want to tip your waiter, pay your bin and think separately give them 50 baht (or whatever amount you have decided on) in another hand. This assures that the tip goes to them.
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Buying Property in Thailand If you are thinking about buying property in Thailand, be warned. Doing so can be very dangerous to your financial and emotional health. If you spend any time at all with the Thai expatriate community you will soon hear any number of horror stories about rip offs, con jobs and just plain theft in the real estate market. Listen to what these people tell you. First off it is illegal for foreigners to own land in Thailand. If you buy a property you are really only buying the building. The land can and will literally be sold underneath you. There are only a few very limited exceptions to this law: If you marry a Thai woman you can put the land in her name. Make sure you trust her, or you could find yourself homeless! You can set up a limited company in Thailand and have the company legally own the land. If you do so at least 51 percent of Thai nationals must own the company stock. You can lease the land for 30 years. If you are of retirement age, this might be the safest option for you. Leases can be extended for up to 900 years, but you will need to renegotiate the terms of the lease every 30 years. When trying to purchase property in Thailand always do so through a real estate agent. A common rip off in Thailand is for a local to try to sell you his property privately without a real estate agent. Then, when you take possession of the property you will find out that he or she has taken many loans against the building - which you are now responsible for! No matter what, before you sign on the dotted line, ask around. Talk to the local expats, the local taxi drivers and anyone you can think of in the neighborhood. Like any place else in the world, the locals know who the bad apples are!
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A Monk's Life As you travel through Thailand you will be amazed at the number of orange robed men and boys who seem to be everywhere. With their well-shorn hair and constant smiles, the Buddhist monks are an iconic image of Thailand. Yet, while monks are an integral part of the local landscape, many westerners know very little about their lives or what makes them tick. How are they different from Christian monks? What goes on in their day-to-day lives? The answer is that Thailand monks live a very different lifestyle than their western counterparts. Buddhism is a much less restrictive religion than Christianity and this reflects a monk's life. Unlike Western monks, the brothers of Thailand do not necessarily sign up for life, do not do penance and are often an integral part of the community. The monks of Thailand are encouraged to find joy and happiness in their lives while Christian monks live a life of pain and sacrifice. While Western monks are seen as solitary dour men, in Thailand they are seen as normal joyful members of the community. Part of this sense of community stems from the fact that the people see Thai monks nearly every day. When was the last time you actually saw a monk in America? Overall there are roughly 300,000 monks in Thailand that come from all walks of life rich and poor, urban and villagers. The Way Buddhism is not only one of the world's oldest religions it is also one of the most widely followed. Nearly 1/5th of the world's population follows Buddhism in one-way shape or form yet nearly all of them live in the East. The purpose of Buddhism is to find The Way and that is the goal of every monk, whether novice or elder. The Way is a mental and physical outlook on life designed to eliminate sadness and misery and create a sense of joy and calm. This view of life celebrates education, compassion and a rejection of personal possessions. A monk's true ambition is not physical assets, but true emotional happiness and acceptance of the irony inherent in every life. At the nations roughly 32,000 Buddhist monasteries the monks follow the teaching of the Buddha to find The Way. This is why you will often see monk's smiling, laughing or simply sitting at peace with themselves and the people around them. Because the monks never require a lifetime commitment from any of their members, many adults will join the monastery when they face a particularly difficult part of their lives more often than not for a period of three to six months. The idea is that they can use this time to realize their mistakes, plot a new path in life and get closer to finding The Way. The Young Boys In Orange One of the most striking things about Thailand is the sheer number of young boys who wear the orange robes that signify monastery membership. Many tourists seem shocked at the idea that boys this young may be pressured into dedicating their lives to a religion they may be too young to really understand. Don't worry. Most of these boys will not spend their lives as monks. They will grow up to live completely normal lives in society as doctors and lawyers and laborers. Most of these boys are Novices sent to the monastery in search of a better life than can be found in their families' villages or inner city ghettos. Unlike in America it costs money for a child to be educated in Thailand. Many Thai families can not afford the costs of the local schools. In fact, Thailand faces such poverty that many families can barely afford to keep food on the table for their children. That is why the monasteries are popular. A child sent to a Buddhist monastery will be taught to read and write and gain the education skills he will need to live a happy productive life as an adult. A child in a monastery will also never go hungry. So, sending your child to wear the orange robes is often the best thing a loving family can do for their young boys. While some of these boys will choose to become an elder and stay in the monastery their entire life, most will not. All that have spent the dawn of their lives in the monasteries will carry the experience with them forever and have an understanding of The Way that will help them through life's inevitable challenges. There is a saying in Thailand that means "A boy does not become a man until he has been a monk." The Shaved Heads Other than the bright orange robes which cover the entire body except for the right shoulder the shaved heads are one of the most striking visual representations of Thailand's monks. While all of the monks do shave their heads the sheering is done with as much reverence and care as any other part of their lives. Once the hair has been cut from their heads it is placed on a lotus leave and then put in a river to float off in honor of the Buddha and nature itself. A Day In The Life As you would expect, Thailand's monks follow a remarkably regimented life. Every day is much like the other and every monastery follows about the same schedule as all of the others. These schedules are literally thousands of years old and are not likely to change in our lifetimes. Most monks wake up around 4 or 4:30 in the morning to the alarm of the temple bell. They rise quickly because it can take up to a half hour to properly arrange the orange robe in any of the four ways that have been prescribed by Buddha through the ages. Around 5 a.m. the monks fully robed gather in a central temple area and begin their morning chants. Immediately following the chants, the monks elders and novices alike then engage in group meditation until the sun rises signally the beginning of their day. As the light of day starts to spread around the village it is time for the monks to begin walking through the town seeking alms. The monks need these offerings because they are permitted no worldly possessions of their own and are at the mercy of the kindness of the villagers. While there is no obligation for anyone to give offerings to the monks most people are proud to offer what they can to these robed men. The monks walk barefoot with a tray over their heads. When they get to a home where a family is ready to make an offering, there will be someone typically the oldest woman in the household on her knees awaiting the monk's arrival. Most villagers will offer food, flowers, cake and fruit. It should be noticed that the monks make their rounds in silence and never ask for the offerings. Even the poorest villagers are happy to show that they can contribute, as it is part of their long local traditions. After the rounds, around 7 in the morning, the monks return to the monastery to eat breakfast. The next few hours are spent doing the work that needs to be done to keep the monastery running, including washing of robes, cleaning and physical maintenance. When a monk is done with his chores he will then begin reading and studying until 11 a.m. when the temple bell rings to announce the second meal of the day. As the monks prepare for their meal, peasants will again come to the monastery with offerings of simple items the monks might need like toothpaste or soap. This meal is eaten with care, because it will be the last time they are allowed to eat until breakfast the next day. After the meal, the monks return to their primary responsibilities, which include work, study and meditation on The Way. If a monk needs some simple possession he can ask an elder for permission to visit the village again, though this is not very common. Around 7 p.m. the monks once again gather together for the evening chant and group meditation celebrating the Buddha. When this is done the monks return to their huts for the rest of the evening. Mon's typically share their hut with one other brother and have to maintain a certain level of conduct in the dwelling. Their bare feet can never point towards any book or image of the Buddha. It is forbidden for a monk to sleep in an elevated bed or to have any soft material in his sleep quarters. Therefore nearly all monks sleep on the floor. Treat The Monks With Respect When you visit Thailand it is important to remember that the monks are not tourist attractions. They are dedicated individuals who are revered in their communities. The monks will often be friendly towards you and some will allow you to take their pictures. This does not give you license to treat them as simply a fun part of your trip. Treat the monks as you would any religious person in the west and you will avoid getting a reputation as an Ugly American.
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Dating in Gay Thailand When you first get to Thailand you will probably be enamored by all of the wonderfully attractive boys you can take home for a fee from the go-go and host bars that populate all of the major cities. Still, you do have a heart (we hope) and after a while you may be looking for something more long term. There is nothing wrong with looking for love in Thailand and lots of Thai guys would love to have a western boyfriend. But, you will discover that Thai guys quite simply have a completely different set of customs when it comes to gay relationships than you may be used to in the west. Respect Their Culture It is very important that you dont try to impose your cultural attitudes on the guys. If thats what you want, stick to the rent boys, who will be glad to indulge your preferences for a fee. When it comes to dating a Thai guy, always remember that you are in his country, which means you have to respect Thailands social mores, in public and in private. The good news is that most of the customs will work to your advantage once you get used to them. There is a reason that millions of western gay men come to Thailand and why many of them choose to stay forever. Socially On Top Thai society is based on the idea of different social levels. As a westerner you will be considered to be the social superior of nearly any Thai you date. The reasons for this are many and varied, but one important reason is that even a modest salary by western standards is considered a fortune by the average Thai guy. Quite simply, you are probably richer than any man he has ever known. Because of your higher social status many Thai guys will treat you with reverence. Interestingly, this may not translate into the bedroom. Some westerners assume that because their date is docile and submissive to them in public that they are a natural bottom. This is not always the case sometimes the most timid, deferential Thai boy can become a seriously aggressive top once you get under the sheets. What it does mean is that most Thai guys will expect you to be the one to take them out on a date and they will expect you to pay for dinner. Socially On Top Another common mistake is to assume that because you are being treated as the social superior, that your date considers America or those from Europe or other western countries in general to be superior. That leads you to start talking about how much better your country is than Thailand. Nothing you could do or say could be ruder. Instead, compliment your date on how great his country is. Your cock will thank you in the morning. The Money Honey What confuses many Western guys is that after several dates, your new friend may start asking you for small amounts of money. Lots of guys freak out at this point thinking they have started dating a gold digger. Dont worry thats not the case. It is normal in Thai culture for someone to ask his social superiors for small favors. In this case, because they consider you so wealthy, it just seems natural for them to ask you for some money. Its no different than a heterosexual woman expecting flowers or jewelry from time to time from her man. Thai Boys Will Love Your Bad Self! When you arrive in Thailand you will suddenly feel like more of a stud than you ever have in your life. Don't be surprised if your score rate suddenly doubles or triples. Right off the bat, Thai guys who hang out in gay establishments that cater to Westerners are there because they find Western guys to be hotter than their countrymen. Some of them may even have a fetish for hot American boys. This makes it much easier for you to rock on with your cock on! A Golden Gay! The other great thing about Thailand is that the gay boys dont put a premium on youth. In fact, many of them find older men more attractive. In other words, you wont have to compete against 21 year old gym bunnies, even if you are in your 40s, 50s or 60s. If anything they will be worried about competing against you. If you were still in the closet when you were in your 20s, this is your chance to be the beau of the ball! Gay? Straight? Whatever! Those of us in the west come from cultures with a deep history of Christian values. These values made people very guilty about their homosexual yearnings which meant that most people ended up identifying as either straight or gay. Thailand on the other hand is a culture that is based in Buddhism, which says nothing negative about homosexual behavior. The result is that many Thais identify as neither gay, nor straight, but as simply people who sometimes have sex with men and sometimes have sex with women. There is, however, great social pressure for Thais to get married. This means that many Thai men get married, and then continue to live as primarily gay sometimes with the consent and knowledge of their wives. Other men continue to have sex with both men and women throughout their lives. The good news is that they do so without much of the guilt that we would find doing the same things in our own culture. Discretion And Modesty Are An Obligation! While there is almost no prejudice against gays in Thailand, the Thais as a people are much more modest about their romantic liaisons than we are in America. It is very rare to see any Thai couple, gay or straight, exchanging kisses or any physical displays of affection in public. If your date doesnt want to make out on the street, that does not mean he is in the closet. It just means that he has been taught from a young age to be discreet in all things. In America we spend more time talking about sex than doing it. In Thailand it is the opposite, sex is almost never talked about or physically hinted at it just happens all the time! Personally, we are happier to be doing it than bullshitting about it and we hope you are too! Fully Dressed Under The Covers? Many Thai guys, particularly earlier on in a relationship, extend this modesty into the bedroom. When you first bring a Thai guy back to your hotel room, dont be surprised if he gets under the covers before he takes his clothes off. Once you start making out with him, you will find that Thais eventually can become very wild in bed. It just takes them a little while to be comfortable naked with another person unless of course, you have brought a go-go boy home! Sniff This! There is one major way that Thai guys tend to be less shy than us Western boys. In Thailand it is considered an expression of friendship and affection to sniff the person you are hanging out with. We are not making this up. So, dont be surprised if your date wont kiss, but will move close to your face or neck and take a whiff. Skip The Formalities Once you have had sex and are alone together, your date may suddenly become radically informal. It is common for Thai guys to use your toothbrush, leave their clothes on the floor, drip water after the shower or even try on your clothes. This is not an example of them getting too pushy. Its just their way of showing that they like you. Make Your Intentions Clear In Thai culture, exclusive, serious relationships can start very, very quickly by our standards. This means that after two or three dates lots of Thai guys may start considering you their boyfriend. Most Western guys are not comfortable with moving things this fast. What you need to do from the start is keep reminding the guy that this is still casual for you, so you dont end up breaking too many hearts. As in all cases, upfront honesty is the best policy. Live Up To Your Social Status! Because Thai guys will consider you their social superior, they will expect you to act like one. That means that they will expect you to be dress up on dates (long pants, good shoes) and be generous with your time and money. They will also assume that you have very good manners and behave like a true gentleman at all times in public. Do your best to live up to the highest standards of behavior that you can. Dont Be A Bitch Bitchiness and catty comments are very common in western gay culture, but they dont exist in Thailand. You know that little comment you want to make about his shoes dont do it. Instead of looking for flaws, Thais look for reasons to make compliments. Find something you like about the guy and talk about that. If you do make bitchy comments you will hurt and confuse your date and probably not get laid. Be Prepared To Make The First Move Because Thai guys will consider you their more attractive social superior, they are not likely to be the one to ask you out. Instead, they will try to find subtle ways to let you know that they find you attractive. They will almost always expect you to be the one to make the first move, so you will have to find a way to be aggressive without upsetting their general sense of modesty. No Switch Hitters Unlike America, where there are tons of guys who like to give and receive, most Thai guys are either tops or bottoms and not at all in between. This is great for those of you who are versatile, but if you have a strong preference one way or the other you might want to find a way to let your date know this before he agrees to go out with you. Be Flexible. As you continue to date Thai guys, there will be lots of small social and cultural differences that are bound to come up. The key is to expect small misunderstandings, accept them and try to learn from them. Remember, you are the visitor in their country!
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A Day at the Beach in Gay Thailand No trip to Thailand is complete without time spent wasting away your days on the beautiful sandy beaches. From bronzed beauties, to towering waves, the beach will be your entrance to happiness. Thailand's beaches have a little something for everyone. It is easy to find a completely isolated stretch of sand where you can lay out and read a book without ever being bothered by anyone. On the other extreme there are huge expanses of beaches filled with bars, hotels, restaurants and shops, so you can be as social as you want when showing off your hot beach body. If you don't like to sit directly on the sand, many stretches of beach will allow you to rent out a chez lounge for the day. Then, you can have sexy waiters bring you drinks and food all day long as you let the sun caress your body. In Pattaya and in Phuket, there is an area dedicated to gay visitors. It is a much larger area in Pattaya than it is in Phuket but it is the same general concept. You can even arrange to have a massage while you are sitting in the chair. Manicures and Pedicures are easily found for about 200 baht total. Massages normally go for around 100 baht for 30 min or 200 baht for an hour. Most of the time the massage boys have to pay the vendors that own the area you are sitting at so be sure to tip them at least 20 baht for an hour massage. Massages and pampering are not all you will find at the beach. Many money boys go there looking for love. You will find that there are a number of boys that do not like to go to the go go bars and beer bars but they love to look for a farange at the beach. You will also find many boys that you will recognize from the bars. Most people who live in Pattaya or in Phuket find that a day at the beach is a wonderful way to relax and enjoy life. Plus, if you pick up the boy of your dreams to bring back to the hotel room with you, well, then you have yet another wonderful thing to write in your journal about! For those of you who like to be more active, it's easy to find a volleyball game or body surf the waves. Many of the resort areas also offer parasailing, snorkeling and other forms of beach play. When looking at a guide book you will notice two types of beaches listed, "Stay Beaches" and "Day Beaches". A Stay Beach will have a hotel nearby where you can check in for the night. A Day Beach is more isolated and you will have to travel at the end of the day to get back to civilization. Not matter what you choose to do, you will enjoy yourself and understand why in Thailand, life is a beach!
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See this thread. http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/43-popper-in-thailand/
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I was at lunch today and a friend asked me if I was going to Tim's funeral tomorrow or to the service tonight. I didn't know about it but have been told that Tim's funeral is on Wednesday, December 19, 1:00 pm at Wat Chai in Central Pattaya near Tuk Com.
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If you know Yaya, it is the bar directly adjacent to Yaya. It is right next door and it a double or triple shop house. It is across the street from Corner Bar.
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No hater here! Love him!
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FH, this thread was started in August of 2010. It has had that many views over the last 2 years. One poster said this can't be true but it is and it is accurate. The Andrew Drummond issue is old and well documented on many boards and in the press. This thread is about BoyzBoyzBoyz and bringing up that court case only does disservice to the bar. And, I am not even sure why it was brought up in this particular thread.
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So, this is going to be a movie and not a TV show? I grew up on the TV Show and look forward to either version but they have done a great job remaking Hawaii 5-0 that perhaps next in line will be Baretta or Kojak?
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Hey, you will not believe me but I have seen this in sex shows in Bangkok for many years. The guy gets a dick inside his partner and they fuck as he is turning around and around. Well, this is just one scenario that fuck in as often they also fuck while swinging, walking around, on the rafters, etc.
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Welcome to the newest Forum on boytoy.com! Articles and Forums are now here and visible for all to see. Please feel free to post your own stories and articles in them. We will be adding to them on a regular basis. To start with, I have added about 30 short stories I have written. Some are hardcore and some are milder but still erotic. I always liked the ones for the Host Boy tales as I tried to capture the way someone who had just come to the gay scene in Thailand and was becoming a "working boy" in the scene. I hope you enjoy.
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Dexter goes Out with A...... Well he Just goes out !
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Well, she used her gun to kill her and that is very problematic IMHO. Free? I don't think so. She is now on a path that Dexter went on so very long ago. Look, they can't dispose of the bodies. It is impossible. So, what are they going to do here? Also, what about the GPS for the Captain's car? She called in to get that info. That is recorded. I loved the ending and thought it was great. I also loved the plant that was left for Dexter. She is not done with him. -
1. Once people come to Thailand and stay a while, they want to do day trips. This was what he was referring to. 2. I didn't see advertising of businesses but telling others where he likes to hang out and stay when in Pattaya. It is not only welcomed here, it is needed. We always appreciated when people share places they like. That is what the site is about: Sharing Information 3. Staying in a decent place for 350-500 baht a night seems pretty cheap to me. If you do it for 200 bath less, please share with us specifics.
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It is correct. The site ranks high in the search engines and many people come to the site from the listings it has.
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Congrats to the winners! Very impressive guys! FH, most enjoyable! I really had a great time and look to it again next year. You must have put in a great deal of work in this. Thank you!
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Sign the White House.org petition to have Westboro Baptist Church declared a hate group. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
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Hackers target Westboro Baptist Church after Newtown threat
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After church leaders announce plans to protest at site of school massacre, Anonymous posts the personal information for dozens of members of the extremist group, including names, e-mail addresses, and phone numbers. A group attached to the online hacktivist group Anonymous claims to have hacked the Web site of the Westboro Baptist Church in response to plans by the controversial church to picket the funerals of those massacred Friday at a school in Newtown, Conn. As part of a campaign dubbed #OpWestBoro, KY Anonymous said yesterday it posted the personal information belonging to members of the extremist organization, which is best known for conducting protests designed to disrupt the funerals of members of the military killed in action. The data dump included the names, phone numbers, e-mail addresses, and physical addresses of dozens of alleged members of the religious organization. The group did not indicate where or how it acquired the data. The hackvitist group announced the move after several Westboro Baptist Church members announced the group's intention to target Newtown, which was the site of a school shooting Friday that claimed the lives of 26 people, 20 of whom were children ages 6 to 7. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559468-93/hackers-target-westboro-baptist-church-after-newtown-threat/ -
Their site says: A unique multi-level party palace serving our community since 1988. The first and original gay night club in Pattaya, founder and the heart of Pattaya Boyztown. Where fantasy, desire & passion unite. Offering hot guyz, dancing to the best music. To me, this says that it was the first gay night club and perhaps they distinguish that from first gay bar. Am I incorrect in this?
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hehe. He is an amazing young man. I have a few thousand photos of him over the years. I'll try to send you some on here. I have always been able to exchange Thai baht into Brazilian currency. Never a problem. I am not sure why it isn't the reverse.
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Great little beer bar. Duc is an enjoyable man to talk to and the bar is very laid back and fun for a drink. They also have a trivia night every so often that is fun to watch.
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I have had more Thai Delivery Boys than I can count. But, I much prefer the room service guys at hotels in Land of Smiles.
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I think the scene has changed a great deal over the years and so has the bars in this area. I think most of them are a shell of their former self but it all depends on what you are looking for. As Heygay said, this bar is great for men looking for a more mature gogo boy experience. Also, I do still enjoy their show.
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I have been in this bar several times in 2012. The show is great and Madam Jim puts on a nice cabaret show. The boys in this bar tend to be much older than the guys in the other bars in the area. It is more of a muscle boy bar and not many younger guys. It is very clean and beautifully decorated.
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