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Stories about monks abusing minors or leading a luxury lifestyle (last year: jet-set monks with private jet and luxury handbags) are nothing new.

I believe boys would only steal cash. On the other hand, there was a theft of a watch in a massage parlor reported last year. I would not notice theft of cash (as long as enough to pay and tip and some more is left in my wallet), but I would notice theft of mobile phone. Bank/Credit cards and passport is of no value to the thief.

Not oversee; overlook is the right word.

I have never heard of Sea massage before. This is not the first time theft in a massage place is reported on the forums. I always leave my stuff (trousers, wallet, phone, sometimes passport) unattended in the massage room and never had anything missing (but then I don't know how much money exactly I have in my wallet and don't count, I would oversee a small theft). If boy stole mobile or passport, I would notice immediately; money, not so much. If I ever have money stolen, you will read about it!

I made a post which includes a long list of gay Asia related blogs: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2015/02/gay-forums-blogs-guides-and-encounters.html

detailed report here: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/05/special-cinemas-1-laem-tong-in-klong.html

Most places are either massage or sauna, that they offer both is rare (I can only think of Chakran sauna with V-Club massage). Sri Bam Pen: Nuat Thai Hiso is clearly gay (one of their masseurs is cover boy on GB map Jan 2015 and they advertise in gay publications). Then there is Mai Thai, I am not sure about that. "Magic Hand by lady" is a no-brainer. Super A left the 2nd floor place and move to ground floor as a massage place, but converted back to gogo bar. Now it is a floor under and 20 m south of the old Super A. The label for Screw Boys should go on the east side of the soi. (Labels in Soi Twilight are completely mixed up, but whoever is looking for a particular venue will easily find it). Indeed Google has some wrong and outdated entries. I prefer street address in addition to just coordinates. Details on Fuse here: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/10/fusion-pub-in-surawong.html In addition to above comments, take a look at other gay magazines and maps for information about gay venues (but treat with caution: they have the same problem like you). The point is: if you have to search the internet or use google street view to find these places or ask on the forum, you will always be a step behind.

There was a demonstration how massage oil damages condoms in G-Star Palace gay disco in Khon Kaen, as part of a bigger event promoting safe sex: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/08/g-star-palace-khon-kaen.html. They inflated condoms (blow them up with air to over 5 liters volume) and rubbed massage oil on them, they ripped within seconds.

I had a look at the maps, first impression positive. You should separate (different symbols) massage and sauna, they are completely different businesses. Comments for Silom/Sathorn map: There are several massages in Soi Sri Bam Pen, Nuat Thai Hiso advertises to gay market. In Silom Soi 6 and 8 there is Montara massage and Thai Best massage (both missing in map). Super A is missing. The place labelled as "Hotmale Station" (late night disco, same owner as Hotmale gogo and beer bar) used to be at the corner to Super A, closed last year, and last name was Baan Na บ้านนา as far as I know. The Green massage (Surawong, about in front of Tarntawan Place Hotel) is missing. Screw boys is slightly misplaced and Dream Boy is seriously misplaced (maybe googlemaps messes these up; I just notice they have Anuman Ratchathon and Silom Soi 7 in the wrong place). Mantra massage มันตรา is missing (often overlooked, small stairway leading up, Surawong opposite Montien hotel open food court. Fuse in basement of Wall Street tower is missing. Playboy massage is missing, so is the massage place in Silom 64 building (don't know the name), and the massage (I think J-J massage) in the dead end soi (Silom Soi 1?) all on Silom under/next to BTS. Comments for introduction text: I don't know Club 9 Cafe and Blue and See Men (there is one in Chiang Mai), but Singapore Pub is now Wave Club and Seek is gone. DoorDum only open on weekends last time I checked (some months ago)

Sites that are blocked by Thai government direct to http://www.tcsd.info/home.php?go=1

Do you remember the boy's number or name? The biggest cocks I have seen in real life from close are about 7 inch, and I'm still looking for the sometimes reported bigger cocks.

... or content to keep ripping off new customers who don't realise that the content is recycled Nice word play! I cannot access the site http://www.asian-ephebes.com/ (and no other link posted here leads to anything useful) ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access / on this server.

First congratulation that your magazine is the only one out of four that is distributed widely and on time in all gay venues I monitor. Maps and updating businesses is a general problem, not only Out in Thailand has outdated (meaning: incorrect, wrong) information. I was going to email you anyway about some mistakes in the maps that immediately sprung to my eyes (because I have been to these places recently) in January 2015 print edition: Bangkok Ramkhamhaeng: See K Dance Club is no more, Singapore Pub changed name to Wave Club about half a year ago and is slightly misplaced in map, Troy sauna is no more, "De Ja Vu" change to "Deja Vu" and is slightly misplaced in map, Crusing sauna is listed but not marked in the map, "IMA Spa Liberty Garden Hotel" might be "9 The Nine Spa" (don't confuse with a place in Sukhumvit with a similar name). A general note on maps: places in Silom area can be found by following the map, but venues in Ramkhamhaeng area or Chiang Mai cannot be found because resolution is insufficient (but low density of the venues does not warrant higher resolution). Addresses in English and Thai would be more helpful (cf. Chiang Mai gay guide, all addresses to print out on 2 A4 pages). I'm sad to see Darika go.

I noticed as well (Sun 18.01.2015) that Silom was night market and no car traffic, maybe this is a regular event now?

z909: However, when this happens, I've often turned them down. That's either because they asked for almost double the going rate or more frequently because I doubted they were going to be good company. After all, those who are good company will be usually be tipped well, so most of them don't even raise the subject. That's a good point. Boys who negotiate do so because they got low tips in the past, because their performance was poor! I don't remember more than one particular case, but when a boy starts negotiations I am wary, from diffuse negative past experience.

That would be a poor start. I know the boys wants as much money as possible in as little time as possible, but if a boy asked me how long exactly the short time will be, then I would send him back. Hasn't happened so far. I made a mistake a while ago in a massage: the boy was reticent to take his shirt off, then he asked me how much I would tip, agreed to 1000 Baht, then asked if I could tip 2000 (no!), then was reticent to take his pants off. I should have stopped and proceded with just massage. With more poor than good experiences with moneyboys, I am looking carefully for hints that I will not end happy, and if I have to enter detailed negotiations (started by the boy) about time and money, that is such a hint. How long I will keep the boy? Until I am done!

I have heard or read that elsewhere, but have no personal experience. Is Thailand unique in that you pay per transaction, and not per hours used? I meant that I don't discuss short time or long time. If a boy will go with me for short time and asked me how long exactly, I would send him back to the stage, without tip, unless he is marriage material. For those interested: my short times are usually 1 h spent in the my room.

A common occurrence, people love to talk about their pet peeves: tipping in restaurant and tipping boys, drink prices in bar and so on. I am not except from that, and will not refrain from repeating what I have said many times: I consider all these activities paid for by the employer and tip little if at all. Usually this issue does not arise as I mainly eat Thai street food where tipping is not customary. That does not meant the waiter/waitress should not have a decent income, but I think this should be paid by the employer and be included in the price on the menu. As a side note, I dislike it if someone pours me drinks.

I never mention time, and unless boy asks I don't discuss tip. So technically the boy I off doesn't know how long I want him to stay with me and how much I will tip. But I guess I am an average demanding customer and average tipper. In the last two years, all over-nighters were the boy's choice. I can understand that a boy asks how much he will get, but I never had a boy ask how long it will take, and I would interpret this as a bad omen and unless he is a stunner reject him.

Depends on Hotel. I went to see a friend in Tarntawan and had to leave my ID with security. In Malaysia, I just walk past reception, but locals will be stopped and have to tell them where they want to go, reception will call the room, and visitor will have to leave ID at reception. Even if they are repeat visitors to the same room. The new wing (house between parking and pool) has no reception, you can bring back whomever you want, nobody will stop you. The rooms have different sizes and layouts. A friend stayed there several times and I visited him several times, he prefers the room with the balcony that overlooks the parking. Usually front door and back door (to the pool) are closed (and locked), so I either have to go to reception (they will call him and send staff with key card to open door for me) or I call him and he throws me the key from balcony. But when you come back with a boy, you won't have this problem. And there is yet another building, north of the pool, which operates similar to the house between pool and parking. But to go there you have to parade through the open air part of the restaurant and along the pool; the gate which allows direct access from parking is closed most of the time.

For me, that would be a negative. Carpet in hotel room is difficult to clean, and imagine what amount of dirt collects in the carpet after years or even decades of use. I prefer rooms with tiles. The Malaysia charges for WiFi and has 10% service charge on their menu, both a no-no for me (moot point as I have a room).

Why not widen your choice? There are many other places to stay: S1 hostel, Thung Mahamek Privacy Hotel, Penguin guesthouse, The Blooms, The Boss Residence, and finally The Moon House has rooms for 450 Baht. I stayed in Ibis twice five years ago (about 1200 Bath per night), no problems bringing boys back. After that, I stayed in Penguin several times, rooms about 800 Baht per night.

If anyone goes to Screw Boys, I would like to know if number 69 Dto from Kalasin is in (or even better: his phone number or Line or facebook).

Sleeping with the boy (Tharnar, Tana - two short a - ทนะ, 19/50/175) was fine, activity in the morning as well. Showering together in the morning - not just sharing the shower, but washing each other. Lunch together, during which I enquire: he has been working in Screw Boys for 2 months (but I didn't notice him on two previous visits; but then the boy Dto I was looking for wasn't there on my two last visits). Tip him 2200 (which is very generous by my standards, based on long time tip 2000, that would be the third boy I tip over the going rate; only now do I learn that the going rate is 2500 for lt, will inquire next time). My highest tip ever and highest total cost (2200+550=2750). I have the boy's phone number and Line, so there might be repeats if we can come to a pre- or post work arrangement and a repeat customer discount (I have 1000 Baht for short time in mind).

This month, a Swede hanged himself in 43rd floor of Sathorn Unique. http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/447647/swede-found-dead-in-high-rise Says security guard takes 100 Baht from Thai persons and 200 Baht from Farang to let them in (double pricing, even here!). People keep going there: http://desertedplaces.blogspot.com/2014/02/sathorn-unique-bangkoks-ghost-skyscraper.html but that will probably come to a temporary halt now. Copy of a post I made on Thaivisa (some the data is slightly different from what I reported in this thread here, my memory). http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/782044-swedish-found-hanged-in-deserted-building/page-8 This is a weird story. Why would someone climb 43 floors to hang himself, in addition to the difficulties to get in? That's probably the last thing on a suicidal person's mind, but: he made it much more difficult for others to get in and for the owner to sell it. It's not that easy to get in, just pay 200/100 Baht at security (double pricing, even here!). I managed to get in April 2013, via the park house next to it and the makeshift bridge, with the help of a homeless person dwelling in the park house (technically a trespasser, same like me, but at least he lives there, I paid 300). In 2011-2013, I made several attempts to get in via the main entrance, with help of a Thai friend to translate, but either the gate was locked or I could just get up to about 3rd floor (locked door on the stairway up), after tipping a homeless person on the premises 100 Baht. It cost me a lot of money (400 Baht plus travel expenses) and time to get in, and I speak Thai (nobody there speaks English), I find it hard to believe that the deceased just walks by, pays, climbs up and doesn't come down. When I am in the area I will have a look if fence and gate look different than last time I went there.