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My underline. Can you give examples? I write more about things that go wrong during dates, as that's far more interesting than everything going by plan. There is some embellishment and some humor as well. And certainly, I would rather be perceived as stingy than generous with money.

Grammar? This is logic, not grammar. "African money body" is a typo, from context it's obvious he means "boy".

In Thailand certainly fakers. But those links posted probably real. And the tattoo boy is available for gay activities, I have seen videos.

Thank you very much, that's what I was hoping for when started this thread. South India, Indonesia or Philippines, if anyone with their picture chats in Thai, it's a faker! These countries are not my hunting ground*, but if they were in Thailand, Cambodia or Myanmar, I would make an effort to meet them. *Humorous and figuratively, lest readers misinterpret this and say I'm dehumanizing my boys and treat them like animals.

In that case, I recommend spending a long visa run from Thailand in Cambodia. You might find a way to spend your time Thailand and Cambodia that works both for 60 days VE in Thailand or 30 days.

Yes. A second entry on VE should be no problem, but from your third entry it's probably that you will be questioned by immigration about your reasons to come to Thailand.

Thank you very much for this positive contribution. My first idea was that neither the boy nor the room look Thai to me. But I didn't follow that thought, and anyway I don't have the background knowledge you provide.

Finally something concrete. It's all untrue! I have never re-used a condom. "He has publically bragged" where, please? Can you please elaborate on "demeaning offers" and "dangerous practices"?

How do I treat those in vulnerable positions? What habits? Can you elaborate? I know I have asked these two questions before, without getting an answer. I just want to drive my point in (mauRICE casts general aspersions, bases on what his friends who have seen me told him, but remains silent when I ask for specifics).

Fake profile pictures is a huge problem in Myanmar as well. We had a similar situation in another thread. You (mauRICE) cast some general aspersions on me based on what people you know, who have seen me, told you about me. When I ask for details, you remain silent. That says more about your character than about mine. Forum members who have met have only good things to say about me.

I either stayed in a hotel in walking distance, or nowadays rent a bicycle and at the times they (not so much Adam's Apple, but rather New Circle Club) are open, it's a leisurely stroll or ride there and back.

The "generous" tipper I agree, I tip at the lower end. But can you elaborate about "finicky customer"? Can you share details or are you making things up?

What habits? You must be confusing me with someone else. I walk into a gogo bar (the few that are left who have my type of boy) or pass a beer bar, and everyone is smiling and wants to go with me.

What is the basis of your very serious and potentially defamatory allegations?

Frequently changing profiles and in one case, I got a reply asking if I want to join a group (for a fee). However, I don't want to join a group, I want to meet the boy, but first have to make sure the person I'm chatting with is the person in picture. The profiles and the chat, if you have been around as long as I have, you notice something isn't right. However, scammer would get quickly to the issue of money and not waste time with slow responses.

I have come across pictures of these two in several online dating and social media profiles. Chat (in Thai) leads nowhere (slow reply, long offline, I never managed to talk business). The last picture of the tattoo boy (with neck tattoo) is from 2023, which means pictures without neck tattoo must be before 2023. There is a good chance both (or rather the person who uses their pictures) of them are fakers or scammers.

Can you elaborate, which cities, which apps? I'm on my fourth trip to China now. My annual monthly Songkran and April hot weather escape from Thailand, here it's spring time! Boy-wise, there is nothing her for me. I gave up looking. Where are all the gay boys?

Why do you think it's difficult to get to Adam's Apple? When I last was in Chiang Mai two years ago, I liked the stage staff in New Circle Pub much more than Adam's Apple.

There is Trajai Steak House near Malaysia Hotel. I go there occasionally for fish and was always happy with my meal and price. Met several friends for dinner there, some of them ate steak, no complaints.

All massages in the area of Ladprao Soi 101 yellow line station have moved or are gone. White House building abandoned (don't know if/where they moved). There were two false alarms of a new massage in Soi 128/1. One of them even on google maps BOYSTAR SPA. 101 K SPA building abandoned (don't know if/where they moved). TK massage (google maps บ้านคนสวย) is locked and has no massage staff, but still management inside and for repeat customers like me, the call boy from elsewhere. They moved to Chokchai 4, google maps ADAY MASSAGE, and have new Line as well.

I assume you are referring to me. This is called ad hominem. You don't bring arguments to support your point of view, you attack my person instead. With made-up defamations. Where do you get the idea I'm "skanky, slum-shoebox-dwelling", and even if I were, how is it relevant to the discussion? Two friends who have been living in Thailand since 1982 and 1991 share my points of view. I wish I could name a third one (I have more than two friends here, but only these two we occasionally discuss this issue) to claim a combined experience of over 100 years of whoring in Thailand. Just spending time in Thailand doesn't mean you learn how things work, and I have one acquaintance who demonstrates that, but these two, and I as well, have been around a while and seen a bit. You didn't reply to my post (link below) where I ask for supporting quotes for some of your accusations and defamations.

As I said before, I take the 95% repeat rate as proof that the boy thinks 1000 is fair to him as well. Some are running after me and I have to fend them off with a stick (both figuratively). The same standards I apply to myself, I apply to others. I would take the songtheo and walk to meet the boy at his room, therefore I expect him to do the same and I wouldn't pay for a taxi for him to come to my room. I distinguish two kinds of posters: those who brag how much they pay prostitutes, and those who brag how little they pay prostitutes.

Not true. If I encounter unreasonable offers, I offer a reasonable amount. My aim is not as low as possible, but what I find reasonable. And I can usually find someone, and 95% are eager for a repeat, meaning they find it reasonable as well. (I say 95% to account for one boy in Pattaya who came to my room for 1000 the first time we met, but when I asked for a repeat, he said for him to come to my room I would have to add taxi fare or I can come to his room for 1000. Which I did, because I'm not too posh to ride a songtheo and walk a few hundred meters.)

Where and when did I write that? If I did, that was artistic liberty to give the events a more interesting or humorous turn. In my vast experience, if you take someone from a higher-end establishment or pick up someone from street-trade, if you 500 or 2000 for the encounter, there is no correlation to the service delivered. That's why I go for lower end. Can you elaborate on "greed and cruelty"? The misrepresention is presenting expected tips of 2000 THB as the norm. I provide an opposing view that a good time can be had for much less (1000 online vs. 500 own drink, 500 boy drink, 500 off fee, 2000 short time tip = 4500). Furthermore, I wish to point out that my various detractors have never met me and judge me by what I write, whereas members who have met me and know me in person defend me against unfounded accusations.

I call it unreasonable. Around all ages and places, prostitution cost about a daily wage. Only when first-world tourists meet second and thirds world prostitutes, things get out of order. I have been asked for 2000, 2500 and 3000 THB as well, completely out of question, and not even a base for negotiation. Fortunately, there are some around who agree on a reasonable 1000, and there is street trade for 500. 500-1000 is in line with a daily wage and what I consider reasonable. Cambodia, where I pay 20 USD, is on the high side; but in Myanmar, for lack of tourists, you can get someone for equivalent of 10 EUR. I haven't been to Bangkok gogo bars for over 6 years and can't see me ever going again. Why would I pay 500 for a drink to look at boys, when I can get a boy from street trade for the same price? I take all my bar business to Pattaya, and even there increasingly online dating. How much you tip or pay has nothing to do with your wealth. You pay for a service. Do you pay your hairdresser according to your financial situation?