ChristianPFC

Thank you very much. It was a pleasure to meet you, and thanks for the invitation. A unique chance for other forum members to read about the same evening from two different points of view. Meet vinapu 18:35 at reception of Tarntawan Place. Then to Madrid Restaurant in Patpong (the western soi, on the western side, about 50 m north of Silom). I have eaten there before with other friends and was always happy with their pizza, now I had the chance to taste vinapu's fried chicken with cashew nuts and liked it as well. Great food in an unusual location and at reasonable prices! Some time to kill, stroll through Soi Twilight. Then to Nature Boys. 20:20 no boys in yet, but manager assures us they will be there in five minutes and wants to sell us a drink. We are not fooled! To Golden Cock (stay 20:25-21:05). 3 Customers and 6 boys, of which 2 in underwear and shirt and one shirtless (but trousers), 3 fully dressed. Wouldn't take any of them for free. Note at the wall: Happy Hour 2-8 pm all drinks 100 Baht except boy drinks. Music and light ok, aircon too cold, no smoking while we were there. Nature Boys (21:10-40). No customers, 4 boys: two cute ones fully clothed, two fat ones in underwear (Calvin Klein trunks yellow-green fluorescent) bare feet. One of the cute boys gets shirtless, then disappears behind the curtain, we are looking forward for him coming back in underwear, but no, he returns fully dressed. One of the boys smokes, and in that small room you can smell it strongly. Aircon, music, light ok. Continue to Screw Boys (21:50, I leave about 22:50, vinapu stays). I did not intend to go in, ask for Dto 69: not in today, but staff will call him and he will be there in 10-15 minutes. What I see on stage is promising, and it's an invitation, so I go in. Five minutes later staff tells me they can't reach Dto. But there are two other cute boys I haven't seen before: 67 and 89, and I would clearly take 55 and 26 for free. 89 smiles at me when I walk past him on the way to toilet and has a better body, but 67 has a cuter face. Now I am posed with the problem to compare their skin temperatures without buying a drink, and then finding a reason to get rid of them if they are too cold. But 89 goes to toilet, and I follow. He plays with is mobile phone and smiles at me, obviously he was waiting for me. We exchange a few words, warm and dry skin. I should do this more often (follow boy into toilet for a close look under white light and some words; actually I did in the past but the boy I targeted ignored me). A few minutes later, I call him over and take him off (550 Baht off fee for coyote boy, Tana from Burma, 19 years old). Taxi to my room, everything fine in bed. I have not seen a boy with that little pubic hair before (I will spare you pictorial evidence), which I like. A great catch. He shows no intention to leave during post-coital cuddling and just lying next to each other and hugging. I ask if he is tired and wants to stay over night: yes. I am writing this report while he is sleeping in my bed. Thank you, vinapu, for a great night out (after a poor start in Golden Cock and Nature Boys, but that's life!). During this meeting, I first shared my idea of dividing drink price by number of boys with someone else (vinapu). In Nature Boys, 150 Baht per drink divided by 3 boys (2 of them fat and one in jeans!) is 50 Baht per boy. In Screw Boys, 300 Baht per drink divided by 15 boys is 20 Baht per boy (many good looking ones, someone for every one). (Super A would be even cheaper, 100 Baht and 10 boys = 10 Baht per boy). Under the current circumstances (no underwear in Soi Twilight), Screw Boys is the only top notch bar with boys in underwear AND a good selection AND cheapest drinks. I paid three visits within the last two months and offed two boys, all visits/boys worth the money.

There was indeed heavy rain yesterday night (Thursday 04.12.2014), and light rain a few days ago. While massage is not physically hard work, it it requires training (whereas rice farming or construction work does not require much training, I imagine). But not all boys who work in the shops I frequent have that training. I encountered boy are good at neither massage nor happy ending. Nonetheless, I tip 1000 for happy ending massage, but can see justification for 500 and am tempted sometimes (you know, I am a cheapskate). It's kind of unjust: my favorite massage boy (great body, good massage, good happy ending) gets 1000, and others who I take only once because they were reluctant to undress and let me touch them get 1000 as well. One boy I have seen a few times has limited massage skills (it quickly becomes repetitive, lying on the table and the same strokes over and over again), happy ending is ok, and a great body. Going to his shop again will bring the same as before (there is high potential, but we will fall into the same rut). He has no mobile phone (really!), otherwise I would order him to my room (I am sure he can sneak out from the shop in the afternoon when there are few customers, I'm not going to pay an off fee to the massage shop.).

For me it's Bangkok, as I have a room here (no worries about booked out hotels or rates higher than usual). From negative experience (with other holidays) in the past I will stay in walking distance from my room. Traffic can be horrible. I have spent NYE in Bangkok and in Pattaya, not much difference. But I'm not a holiday (i.e. holiday celebration) person, I rather avoid the crowds. In Europe (no cute boys), I would stay at home; in Thailand I go out because I might meet my future boyfriend (or at least a fuck buddy).

Depends on their interests: history, art, culture, architecture, weird places, animals? I for example have absolutely no interest in elephants, but like reptiles and butterflies. For me snake farm and butterfly garden (Rotfai park north of Chatuchak Park) would be interesting. I would advise against floating markets Damnoen Saduak and Amphawa, was there, utterly boring. Anyway I go to markets mainly for people watching, rarely by anything. Markets aimed at tourists have overpriced crap. A trip from Sathorn Pier to Nonthatburi is interesting (make sure you get a seat in the shade when you enter the boat) and cheap. For children, Dusit Zoo, Safari Park and Siam Park and other water parks might be interesting.

There is a fetish bar BarBar in Patpong, the doorman has a wip. I only noticed it in walking past, but Bangkokbois blog has an (fictional?) article about it: http://bangkokbois-gay-thailand-blog.com/2014/08/29/the-boys-in-the-bar-12-a-slave-to-love/

I was not even aware that there is still martial law in force. Current ban of boys in underwear in Soi Twilight gogo bars has a far greater impact on my life.

There will be "Fusion Freshy Boy" (sic!) on 21., contest starting at 22:00 (info from Bangkok Desire November edition).

I noticed several billboards with short time rooms for 300 Baht between second road and walking street. I guess there must be many in Jomtien as well, just walk around and look.

Quote vinapu: When I was there exactly year ago boys were gone, chased out by the management apparently but recently somebody / ChristianPFC ? / reported new sightings on them at front so hopefully all back to normal at Malaysia. Up to two boys at the same time, I wouldn't go with any of those I saw there for free, and the last sighting has been weeks ago (walk past almost daily).

I never had my wallet stolen, but my passport. Afterwards, calculating the damage, stolen wallet would have cost much less money and time to replace.

There are bar girl investigation services that do exactly that, checking if a girl still works in a bar. Don't know about boys, maybe a business idea for me? However taking pictures in bars is not allowed (rightfully so), I would at least have to off him and get him into my hotel room.

Thank you for sharing. I would say Montara is a place where you can expect a good massage, but everything more is a matter of luck. Happy ending must be a rare occasion in this place. Last year, I had a massage there, with happy ending. I had to indicate this to the masseur, we agreed on 1000 Baht. Whereas for Indra, I would expect hanky-panky to be the norm and report above (a447a) surprises me. I did chose my masseur. But then, the shop is for massage, everything else has to be negotiated between customer and masseur. However if the masseur does not want to provide any further service, he should work elsewhere (case similar to non-offable boy in a bar). I had happy ending at Indra, details here: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/08/indra-massage.html A general note: if the masseur is reluctant to take off his clothes or immediately starts negotiating a price, that's a bad sign. I had this twice, it was a waste of money. In such a case, rather back-pedal and do just massage and tip accordingly (just massage).

When I book a ticket for train, staff at the desk often turns the monitor so I can see which times and classes are free. Such information is best communicated visually (in a table: time / class / number of vacancies). For hotel booking, their website should show a similar table: date / room type / number of vacancies, so prospective customers can have a look. On the other hand, this information could be considered business secret, hence you have to go through a lengthy email exchange to get part of this information that you could get with a one-second-look at this table. I am sure staff has such a table on paper posted somewhere for quick reference.

Not an injury, but I am in a constant state of light sunburn, despite avoiding sun (stay in during day, walk in shade, use umbrella). In France I had a bank card with insurance, when I opened an account I signed up for it, it was free in the first year. Then I forgot to read the small print, and one year later, I found a monthly fee of 28 EUR (about 1000 THB) deducted monthly from my account, and it took me month to cancel it due to poor conversation.

Yesterday 22:55 I had a look. Drink price of 200 Baht displayed outside. Manager (?) claimed there are 7 gogo boys inside, but wouldn't let me have a free look first. Entry only when I buy a drink! I declined.

Friday in Classic Boy: drink 350 Baht, off fee 600 (!), short time tip 1500. I was happy with my choice, but can get the same elsewhere cheaper. I limit my visits to Soi Twilight bar to going to every bar once in a year, and offs even fewer. I spend my money in Saranrom and Pattaya instead.

I would like to thank abang1961 for his invitation and being my host. Great service (picking up at airport, providing a stored value card for public transport). I had a good time sightseeing in Singpore (03.-07.10.2014) within my budget (100 Euro = 162 SGD = 4100 THB for the entire time). I hope to see you again, either in Singapore (there are places left I would like to visit) or in Thailand.

You beat me by a day for the first report about Fusion on the internet: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/10/fusion-pub-in-surawong.html I couldn't get the october editions of gay magazines, so it came as a surprise when I saw the note at hotmale, and had to check. It's not the same soi as Heartbeat, but very close.

"Dream boys is the iPad amongst the gogo bars." (Brainfart by ChristianPFC, I want to say new customers heard of it from their friends, it's THE place to go, the owner did advertise at the righ place - but in the end you can get the same elsewhere, much cheaper.) I congratulate the owner for having a full bar every night (as far as I know from the forum) at these prices, but thank you, I will go elsewhere. One boring day I will sit opposite and count number of customers and boys going in and out for a full night. (I imagine a plot - number of customers or boys on the y-axis and time on the x-axis.)

When I started to post, I was accused of being a troll a few times, hence I am lenient with trolls. I can well imagine a newbie being scared by threats of police. I have been threatened with police three times (two Thais and one Farang), two of them drunk. All outside my room, so I can just laugh and walk away. Such threats are from a position of weakness, as a last resort. It's like a barking dog, he want's to see your reaction, whether you show fear or not. If such thing happened in my room (or hotel room), I would tell the boy to leave, and shove him out if he doesn't go (I am bigger than the average Thai I date). I had three boys being angry with me and write "fuck you", but that was based on misunderstandings, now they all would go with me.

Nothing serious so far, but several close calls, recently made a list: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/10/christianpfc-gets-hit-by-car.html In addition to that list, twice hurt my big toe (blood), lightly hurt my head a few times, slipped and fell once (wet tiles, flip-flops) and many times almost fell. Several colds or running nose and one or two herpes. With such conditions, it's not advisible to have sex and spread it, anyway I don't feel like having sex when I have a cold. Living here, you can just sit it out, but when on holiday it's very annoying.

Maybe, but there was no treatment for sexually transmitted diseases. Or the treatment was inefficient or the side effects as bad as the disease. I wouldn't trade modern medicine for all the sex any king could have had.

Let's not forget modern medicine and heating or aircon (depending where you live). I would say the average member of this board leads a better life than Louis XIV, I four sure would not want to change and be king of France 300 years ago compared to the life I am leading now.

If the birthday celebration interrupts normal bar activity, you should rent the bar for private party (and if this idea doens't occur to you, the manager/owner should suggest so). I do not want to suddenly find myself in a loud birthday party, probably with limited choice of boys to off. Back to the op. What is unacceptable behaviour to one is a welcome change to others. I would regard hanky-panky (blow job, wanking) between customers and boys as added value, others say "get a room". There was a case reported (in Sunee, half a year or a year ago) on the forums where one attractive female got bare-breast (and more), getting all straight boys in the bar hard and dripping with precum. I would pay extra to watch that. But the case in the op, count me out. I want to see boys in underwear on stage, not females doing a conga.

I was thinking about Central Europe as well. I would draw the line by language: Roman (except for Romanian) and Germanic languages is Western Europe, Slavic languages Eastern Europe. And what about Greece?