Tokyo - kind of a trip report - 24 Kaikan on a Friday afternoon

[joizy]

I’ve been in Tokyo for 5 weeks now. Having a wonderful time and while I’m not having sex every day, I have definitely had more action in 5 weeks here than I have in a year in the SF Bay Area where I live. So far I only paid once. I’ve met a few guys on Grindr - one looks like he’ll be a regular, had a little luck in the toilets in Shinjuku station and have also had a lot of fun at 24 Kaikan in Shinjuku.

Today I went to Thermae Yu, an onsen/spa complex in Kabukicho after an amazing massage in the morning. But as happens when I got to these places, I see hot bodies and nice dicks and I get horny. I decided I would go to 24 Kaikan to see if I fared any better than I did at the one in Ueno where I went at about the same time (2 p.m.) on a Friday afternoon.

I was expecting it to be just a bunch of old guys. I’d been there on a weekday afternoon before and it seemed to me that they get busy at lunch and then the place empties out until about 3 when a new crowd starts arriving for the evening shift.

But I was horny and thought I could spend a few hours there.

Why are the people at the desk so unfriendly? In every other Japanese establishment, you are greeted by a hearty “irasshaimasse”, but at the gay cruising places I’ve been to, it always seems like they are angry you are there. Well, once I got past grumpy, I stripped and went up to the baths, did the bathing ritual and walked back to the showers.

As I was entering the shower area, I caught a glimpse of a thin guy walking back towards the sauna with what looked like an enormous hardon. did my eyes deceive me? I had to go find him to see if it was true.

I walked into the sauna and it was dark so I couldn’t see well. There were two guys there. One on the left and one on the right. I took a chance with the one on the left.

I sat next to him and put my arms behind me to support myself. Within seconds he was touching me. I reached over and touched him. He had a thin hard body. As I reached down to his crotch - BINGO - yep, it was true. It was a big fat one. 

So in case you didn’t catch that. I paid, stripped, washed and within minutes was playing with a huge cock on a slim young guy.

He was cut, so I was trying to figure out where he was from. I found out later he was Malay, from Malaysia.

We played a bit in the sauna but it got too hot, so we moved to a shower stall with glory holes (my preferred spot because people can watch and maybe participate, but you don’t have to deal with the aggressive grabbing that sometimes happens in other areas). We didn’t stay there long because he wanted to fuck me, so we went upstairs and climbed into a bunk bed.

Yadda yadda yadda - he came, but I didn’t.

I thought that was it. We returned to the bathing area and as we were storing our towels he asked if he could keep in touch with me. I said yes and agreed to give him my number. We went in to wash up. He sat down on a stool, but I went back to the showers. When I finished and returned to the bathing area, he was gone. But then he reappeared and got into one of the baths.

I hadn’t cum yet, and it was now pretty crowded, so I went into the back to explore. It didn’t take long until I somehow found myself involved in a threesome in the steam room that eventually turned into an orgy.

My question about Ueno vs Shinjuku had been answered. There definitely was more action in Shinjuku.

There were quite a few Caucasian guys and a lot of Asian guys who were probably not Japanese, but on vacation. I think there were some Japanese there as well. It was hot and it was active, and as a 65-year old white guy who has seen better days, I was still quite popular and in demand.

I was sucking on a beautiful cock and came and slipped through the crowd in the sauna to find my Malaysian friend still sitting in the bath waiting for me. I nodded and left the wet area and he followed. I went down to my locker and he followed. I thought we’d just exchange numbers and he would stay, but when he saw me getting dressed, he also got dressed. We left together and exchanged numbers outside.

I thought that was the end.

He suggested we go for tea.

To be honest, I really wanted to go home and relax. I told him I was tired and just wanted to go home. I said I’d walk him to Shinjuku station. Again, he mentioned going for tea. The more I thought about it, what was I going to do - return to my Airbnb and scroll on Grindr? We went to Muji cafe and had iced tea and talked. When he found out I liked Malaysian/Indonesian food, he suggested an Indonesian restaurant in Kabukicho, so we went for dinner.

At this point, I couldn’t just send him home because it was rush hour and the trains would be packed, so I invited him back to my place figuring we’d just snuggle until it was a better time for him to get on a train. My Airbnb is about a 15 minute walk from Shinjuku station.

We got on the bed together and talked a bit while we snuggled. Eventually he started grinding on me and finally said, “I have to take it out” and there it was - this enormous cock begging for attention. 

I sucked him until he came. He showered, and I walked him to Okubo station.

He said he will see me every weekend until I leave.

While I’ve had good luck at 24-Kaikan before, it never happened this quickly and not just with the Malaysian, but also with the orgy that formed around me. Is it because it’s summer and there are a lot of horny tourists in town? I don’t know. But for anyone wondering if older guys can still have fun or if afternoons are worth it, yes to both. The past few times I’ve gone I went on weekend afternoons because I don’t like it when it’s super crowded, but today, a Friday afternoon, it was very busy and I was very popular.

I really don’t want to go back to the drought at home, but for now, I’m just enjoying the popularity and look forward to seeing my new Malaysian friend a few more times before I leave.

[joizy]

I just realized it’s Pride weekend in Tokyo, so that may have contributed to the crowds yesterday. Not sure what Pride is like here in Tokyo. I went back in the 90s and it was a very small little procession under a freeway with people covering their faces. I’m assuming things have changed. Anyway, now I’ll have to go back again on another Friday just so I can make a fair comparison.

[ichigo]

I'm enjoying your Japan trip reports, thank you. As I am arriving to Tokyo soon, these give me lots of ideas.

[Gottago]

I was there yesterday too! Similar thinking - too early to check into the hotel, so I thought I’d check it out. Worst case just have a soak.

Within 10 minutes I was in a threesome with two Japanese hunks. We went through about every combination you can with three people before breaking for a rest. 
 

Had two more threesomes (+) before I left around 5. I found it a lot better than later in the night. A lot less people, but still enough to have fun. 
I love how Japanese guys are shy until they get into bed, then they are wild!

[lek1konek]

Just realised my hotel is really close by. Wish to try it out just unsure of the steps..and a little shy. Haha

[joizy]

9 hours ago, lek1konek said:

Just realised my hotel is really close by. Wish to try it out just unsure of the steps..and a little shy. Haha

You go up the stairs from the street, enter and take off your shoes (there are very big signs). Put your shoes in a shoe locker. You’ll need a 10 yen coin. Take your key to the counter and give it to the guy at the desk. He will give you a locker key with the same number (pay attention to the shoe lockers - some of them are for private rooms only). They will point to a sign to ask you what you want. I have been there many times but only just realized there are several options - a private room (not necessary), a towel set + robe, or just a towel set. I never wear the robe, so the last time I got just the towel set - small towel (which you carry in the bath area) and bath towel (which you can wear in more public areas). You can pay with cash or credit card. Just the towel set is about 2,900 yen, towel + robe is about 3,300 yen.

They ask you your name.

I think they all speak some English at the desk. Don’t expect a friendly greeting. LOL. Don’t take it personally.

Grab your stuff and go straight to the back on the same floor to find your locker. Strip and wrap your bath towel around your waist, take the small towel with you and go up to the third floor (you are entering on floor 2).

Again, head towards the rear (pun intended) and you’ll find some cubicles (some with little doors) to store your bath towel. I always choose one of the covered ones near the bottom. You can put your bath towel in one of those if you want. Remember where you put it.

Enter the wet area.

There is a row of plastic stools and everything you need to wash up. Do the bathing ritual. You’ll see two baths - one is hotter the other is cooler. Soak if you want. It’s a good spot to see who is there and get your bearings.

From the bath area, if you walk to the back, there are showers and two dry saunas. Beyond that, there is a cold plunge, and two steam rooms - one of them is very wet.

Cruising and fun can often happen in the saunas or steam rooms. The steam room all the way at the back is usually where I have the most luck. You can also play in the shower stalls if you want privacy (a few of them have glory holes).

There are two toilets in the shower area that have hoses if you are planning on bottoming.

Go up to the fourth floor for “dark rooms”. There are several rooms with beds. This is not my favorite part. This is where I went last Friday with the Malaysian guy.

Beyond that, the floors are private rooms. Nothing seems to happen there. I guess guys who get rooms meet someone and take them there? Or maybe they sleep.

The very top floor is an outdoor roof deck.

During the week, there seems to be a lunchtime rush of mostly Japanese guys. Depending on what you look like, this might not be the best time to go. That rush seems to last a few hours and then it gets quiet until later afternoon when it starts to get busy again. I’d say about 3 p.m. is a good time to go. I’ve always had luck at that time. 

Early on a weekend day is a nice crowd (for me). Enough people to get lucky, but not too many where it becomes overwhelming. By 5 or 6 it gets really crowded. They close the shower/sauna area around 5:50 for cleaning, so that really limits your options until they are done. If you go after 6 on a Friday/Saturday, it will probably be very busy. I have never gone that late. I’ve always gone early and always found someone to play with.

One thing I noticed on a Sunday early afternoon was that there were a lot of people sleeping in the dark room area. I’m assuming the were leftover from Saturday night. So early Saturday seemed better than early Sunday.

When you finish, go back down to your locker, get dressed and return everything to the desk. There are signs saying you’ll be charged if you don’t return all of your towels, so make sure you have everything. They will return your shoe lockers key.

Go back to the entrance and put on your shoes in the small entryway.

That’s it!

My recommendation would be to go around 3 p.m. on a weekday. It will be busy enough that you’ll be able to have fun but not so busy that you’ll be overwhelmed. Eat before you go in case you want to stay more than a few hours.

Saturday anytime seems to be good, but early is better in my opinion for reasons I’ve stated.

Sunday later in the afternoon seems better, after those who have slept over have left and a new awake crowd arrives.

One thing I like is that there are enough guys there who are attracted to older guys and guys with bellies that everyone seems to be able to find someone to play with.

This also seems like a good time because there are many tourists in town, meaning a bigger variety of guys to play with. I met the hot Malaysian this past Friday. The last two times I went, I met hot Korean guys. Japanese guys are hit or miss. Many of them only like other Japanese, but I think the ones who choose this location might like foreigners as well. I like having more options though as a 65-year-old with a bit of a belly.

Hope this helps. I understand the shyness, but everyone is there for the same reason. If nothing else, go and have a good soak/sauna and enjoy the eye candy.

[a-447]

I'm surprised to read about the unfriendly attitude of the guys at reception.

I've always found them pleasant to deal with.

[joizy]

32 minutes ago, a-447 said:

I'm surprised to read about the unfriendly attitude of the guys at reception.

I've always found them pleasant to deal with.

Must be me then. I greet them in Japanese and get no response.

[PeterRS]

7 hours ago, joizy said:

You go up the stairs from the street, enter and take off your shoes (there are very big signs). Put your shoes in a shoe locker. You’ll need a 10 yen coin. Take your key to the counter and give it to the guy at the desk. He will give you a locker key with the same number (pay attention to the shoe lockers - some of them are for private rooms only).

I have never counted the steps up from the street (if that is to what you were referring!!) but doubt there are more than 10-12 of them. Assuming you do not want a private room, all you need do after depositing your shoes, putting in your 10¥ coin, closing the door and taking the key is go to the machine literally across from the recepetion desk. It has a series of press buttoms with a list of prices which covers the cost of the various facilities - from a basic entrance to the washing area, hot/cold tubs, steam room, saunas, rainshower room and other bathing facilities on floor 3 as well as the cruising areas on floors 4 and 5 (all I have ever needed there), to the largest and most expensive private room. I just press the cheapest (provided it is not to suggest I am a student!), pay using ¥, pick up any change and then take the ticket to the reception guys. They take my ticket and shoe locker key in return for which I get the full changing room locker key and a bag with towels. These used also to have bath robes, but seems robes will now cost extra. I always gave them my real name but I expect any name works.

After you have bathed from head to toe Japanese stye, the whole of the shower area after you come through the curtain from the bathing area can often be cruisy. I once even had a guy say my name! Turned out he'd been a boyfriend for a couple of years! Try just to get rid of any inhibitions you may have and join the fun. I agree with @joizy that the back section of the steam room furthest from the curtain (it's next to the rainshower room) is where there can often be action between two or more guys. Just be a little careful. It has some dim light and you should note that there is a small step between the front and back sections. 

On my last visit, the fourth and fifth floors had large open cruising areas, each with some two-tier bunk beds from which you are likely to hear quite a bit of moaning! There are also large mattresses spread on much of the rest of the floor area. These are not separated and so there is often some action going on. As it is pretty dark it is quite difficult to see what action (!) but you are likely to notice that other customers are kneeling around the two guys and just watching. This is perfectly common.

Lastly I would say some Japanese are reluctant to go up to a foreigner. If you see someone you like, just move towards him and perhaps gently touch his arm or his thigh. If he backs away, you know for sure he is not interested. On the other hand, if all you want is to relieve yourself of sexual stress, lie down on one of the mattresses and see what happens. Just note that condoms are not all that common. 

[joizy]

33 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

I have never counted the steps up from the street (if that is to what you were referring!!) but doubt there are more than 10-12 of them. Assuming you do not want a private room, all you need do after depositing your shoes, putting in your 10¥ coin, closing the door and taking the key is go to the machine literally across from the recepetion desk. It has a series of press buttoms with a list of prices which covers the cost of the various facilities - from a basic entrance to the washing area, hot/cold tubs, steam room, saunas, rainshower room and other bathing facilities on floor 3 as well as the cruising areas on floors 4 and 5 (all I have ever needed there), to the largest and most expensive private room. I just press the cheapest (provided it is not to suggest I am a student!), pay using ¥, pick up any change and then take the ticket to the reception guys. They take my ticket and shoe locker key in return for which I get the full changing room locker key and a bag with towels. These used also to have bath robes, but seems robes will now cost extra. I always gave them my real name but I expect any name works.

 

I was referring to the steps that take you from street level to the entrance.

 I never noticed the machine. Maybe this is why I get an icy reception. I should use the machine before going to the reception desk? I’ll look for it next time.

 I think just towels was 2900. Towels + robe was 3300.

 

[PeterRS]