Members Pete1111 Posted 18 hours ago Members Posted 18 hours ago I already mentioned in another thread my fear of flying. I used to fly a lot but grew more and more apprehensive over the years. Season 2 of The Rehearsal on HBO centered around avoiding commercial air accidents, which peaked my interest, especially due to my own fears. Quite a revolutionary idea for a TV show. And now how this Air India crash occurred so soon after the HBO production aired, underlines the idea of the TV show, what many are speculating about these pilots, their communication and their emotional state. So I mention this TV series in case some were not aware and may want to watch, as it relates indirectly to the topic of the thread. It is quite well done. I hope the content links work for you, but if not the Internet will lead you to information. floridarob and khaolakguy 2 Quote
PeterRS Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 21 hours ago, unicorn said: 1. No, according to the report the 10 seconds included the time the one pilot asked the other why he cut off the fuel, as well as the mendacious response that he did not. You may believe that you would have immediately reached over and flipped the switches back, asking the question later. However, the fact of the matter is that this is not what happened. 2. Aditionally, there may have been a struggle. 1. You state ten seconds included the time the pilot asked the question. I accept I may be wrong on the timing of the question but the fact is it took TEN full seconds to reactivate the switches. The pilot in the vdo goes through all manner of issues that will have been going through the mind of this other plot but he still waited - "Ten seonds AFTER the fuel control switches were cut off, I'm assuming the other pilot placed them to run . . ." Even if he asked the question prior to reactivating the fuel control switches, why the long ten second time lag prior to reactivation? Given his knowledge of the aircraft and the disastrous effect of switching off fuel supply, why this full ten second wait. THAT I fail to understand. As I stated earlier, such an action would be hard-wired into his brain that he had immediately to correct such a potentially disastrous act. 2. Absoutaly agree. Quote
PeterRS Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just on a brief side note, I referred in a separate thread to my first job as a trainee with the BBC in London. On our first morning we were told that if you asked anyone in the Corporation the time and they said 11:15, that did not mean the 15th minute after the 11th hour. It meant the 15th second after the 11th minute. It was always assumed that everyone would know at least what the hour was! The reasoning was that many programmes in those days were beamed 'live' and when fitting into tight programme schedules from a variety of studios, seconds were vital. I believe the same would have been true in that horrendous crash. Quote
PeterRS Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 13 hours ago, Pete1111 said: I already mentioned in another thread my fear of flying. I used to fly a lot but grew more and more apprehensive over the years. Did you ever watch any of the series Air Accident Investigation? I think it has been running for about 20 years and investigates crash scenarios mostly involving passenger jets, small and large. I know it can be streamed on some services. On the other hand, with your apprehension about flying, maybe best not to watch!! Yet flying is still the safest form of transport. I subscribe to the app Flightradar. During daytime hours you can hardly see the United States due to so many flights. As I write it is 14:45 here in Bangkok and so I took a screenshot of flights in the Asia Pacific region. As you can see there is a vast number. The chance of any one of these being involved in a fatal crash is infinitessimal - estimated at 1 in 11 million and based on between 0.1 and 0.2 fatal accidents per million flights per year. That compares to the odds of dying an a car crash of just 1 in 5,000. Both are vastly less than being struck by lightning. That series you quote seems to focus on pilots. And this is particularly pertinent today in the light of speculation over the Air India crash. It is certainly fact that around 66% of fatal crashes are due to pilot error. Yet I believe increasing automation will gradually take much of the work out of the pilot's hands so he is more in a supervisory capacity. Thereafer I suspect maintenance of aircraft will become the no. 1 accident factor. vinapu 1 Quote
