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  1. I am literally waiting for plaster to dry, and this is a topic very near and dear, so here’s my stab at bare bones  2 year budget that fits under a rough $65,500  total.  It's just to show that it might be possible in Bangkok.  The OP or others might find some compromises unworkable, so it may be doable in theory but too bleak in practice.  And that's fine.  Or it might be that someone could decide by saving some money here or there it could stretch that out to 2.5 years, or by adding a bit to the budget it’s more liveable, or…whatever.  And definitely Pattaya is cheaper.  But at the least the decision to eliminate BKK as an alternative can be a bit more of an informed one.

     

    Off the top take $10K for health ins.  Just as a sanity check, an expat plan from GeoBlue for a hypothetical U.S. gent in his late 50s is a tad bit under 5,000.  I am sure cheaper plans can be found shopping around, and more expensive plans can definitely be found.

     

    Next take about $5,000 for visa-related costs.  Assorted visa fees, extensions obtained at Immigration, visa runs to inexpensive neighboring countries.  Not much glamour.

     

    Another 2K for long-haul flight from NYC (hypothetically) and misc. costs of being an expat (e.g., mail forwarding services).  Obviously this is not biz class.  

     

    Leaves us about $48K (65-10-5-2) for two years = $2,000 per month.

     

    Convert to baht @30 baht/$ = 60,000 per month.   Of course it’s possible to get better conversion rate than that, but this builds in a little cushion.  

     

    15,000 rent - let’s pretend and use the studio on Suan Plu

      1,500 electricity (should end up less)

         800 home internet 

         800 phone with internet pkg (can easily pay less)

         100 water (should end up less)

    18,200 

     

    leaves us 41,800/month for living or about 10,000 baht/week.  Not great, but livable.  

     

    You could enjoy a visit from an entrepreneurial young gentleman via Hornet 3x/week at @2,000 a visit (6,000 a week)  Is that enough?  Up to you.  

     

    That would leave about 4,000 per week for food and everything else, which is possible if you eat like a local.  (It's also possible to spend that on just one meal..  I think it's possible to spend 300 a day on good street food and from time to time at the inexpensive restaurants around Suan Plu (for example), and then once or twice a week go to a restaurant/bar for a nicer meal.   So the 4,000 could break down to, for example, 3,000 baht a week for food and 1,000 baht for exploring Bangkok.   (haircuts, BTS, Museum fees, occasional lectures, motosai, etc.)  Personally  I'ld probably skip the nice restaurants and spend more on exploration/fun.   It doesn't leave a lot of money to splurge on fancy visa runs instead of the basic number already built-in.  It also doesn't leave any money for falling in or out of love, or meeting someone who is far far better at separating you from your money than you are at resisting his charms.

     

    All these examples are at a 30:1 exchange rate.  Even just 31:1 on $48K obviously adds 48,000 baht to the playground.   But if you're not the kind of person who really really enjoys the adventure of living in BKK, being on a tight budget might really make you miserable and that negativity can become quite toxic.  (The scarcity effect)

     

    PERSONALLY, I think if the budget goes up $10K to $75,000, that extra money could flow directly to food/fun entertainment by adding another 2,500 baht a week for food/drinks/exploration and make the whole thing less strict and more fun.

     

    Or go to Pattaya.

    Thank you so much for all this info, you guys have changed my mind on two things:

    1 - No boys will be living with me (I will still be fucking though lol)

    and

    2 -  I am going to stay for only a year, this way I can get mostly what I want and live how I want. 

     

    To all of you who have posted constructive informational posts I greatly appreciate you all

  2. As an example, right now there is a studio available for 15,000 at the Seed Mingle on Suan Plu Soi 8 on what looks to be a middle-to-high(ish) floor. A modern building with pool and gym.  It turns out to be slightly less than 15 minute walk to Lumpini or to Chong Nonsi or Sala Daeng BTS, or of course a very quick motosai ride.  Personally, I think it's as near to a perfect location as possible (and not just because it backs up to The Prince).  Not that it's important, but it is also a very gay building.   ;)  And the street food scene there is great.  So it's possible to get housing all-in (utils. etc.) for around 17,500/month (actually a bit less).   I have no idea, of course, if the OP is the kind of person who would be comfortable in a studio apt.  

     

    Older less fabulous buildings or even the newer buildings down near Surasak BTS have lots of offerings as well.  So it's possible, it will just invariably involve a compromise.  The price (among many) of living in BKK.

    I actually love a studio because I can see everything at once and its easier to maintain, thanks for the research and the hope this gives me

  3. You can get a sense of condo rents in Bangkok on https://www.thailand-property.com/properties-for-rent.  https://www.thebkkresidence.com/ResultProperty?for=rent is another site.  

     

    I don't think your budget (roughly $50K to live on over 2-3 years or $2K per month (or less)) will let you live where you want to live and do what you want in central Bangkok.   I think you'll be lucky to get a nice 2 bedroom in the Silom/Sathorn or similar neighborhoods for 24,000 baht, and then budget another 2,000-3,000 for utilities (electric, water and internet).  For a sunny 1 bedroom my electric bill probably averaged around 1,200 baht and I'm pretty cheap on the a/c.  water is nominal.  High speed internet around 800 baht/month.   Easily US$900-1,000 for housing in Bangkok.  That's before your first Pad Thai or massage or whatever.   You can find lower rents in different neighborhoods.  It depends on how comfortable you will be away and how good your Thai is.

     

    Also, personally, I think it will be time consuming and a challenge (and an expensive challenge) to find 2 sex worker house boys who you actually want to live in close quarters with for 500 per person per day.  And as others have noted, it will be much more than that in fact because of the food and shopping and new phones and all that.  Also not sure where you intend to find them.  But that can be your adventure.  

     

    Thaivisa.com is of course the place for all current thai visa questions, but I think you should be able to get a couple of years in Thailand on tourist visas obtained first in your home country and then from neighboring countries.  Vientiane I think is still fairly easy to get two TV's.  Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi (I forget which) and Bali are supposed to be pretty easy as well.  You will have to play the game with showing outbound tickets and finances to get the tourist visas.  Doing visa runs or side trips to get your visas would be a lot less expensive than the $15K Thai Elite 5 year visa, for someone who is realistically looking at more like 2 possibly 3 years.  And you might find that you want to get out of Thailand and visit neighboring countries anyway.

    I totally plan on visiting all the surrounding countries and you guys are really making me rethink the live in boy situation.  One of the reasons I want to move to Thailand is to escape drama and bullshit and I dont want to just trade one drama for different drama. 

  4. If you want to live comfortably with thai boy in Thailand you do need at least $25K per year, your saving will allowed you to be in Thailand not more than 6 years and after that what you'll do once the money finished?

    If you don't have steady pension I think it's not a good idea what you're planning to do .

    I only plan on living in Thailand for 2 or 3 years I should still have money when I return to he US

  5. LOL some of you guys are so harsh for no reason.

     

    I don't have to live in Silom I could live close by the Lumpini area is nice

    and I am very serious that why I am here asking for advise

     

    I do think I am going to come and stay for 80 days before I make the big jump just to be sure

    I have saved 150k (not including the Elite Visa cost)  and i don't want to stay in BKK forever just for 2 or 3 years

    but I would like to still have 100k when I decide to come home.

     

    I appreciate all the non bitchy input 

     

    I wanted to respond to you guys individually but I don't see a button that would allow me to do so

     

    Thx

  6. lol I don't want a car I don't drive I'm a NYer

    I have a Thai friend who will help me out with getting and apartment

    How much will a boy cost per month? Maybe one boy will be best

    I workout out every day so I wanna eat a high protein diet I don't care if its western or not

     

    I want to live in Silom but I will live in a close by place too and I can take the train

     

    TO be clear I want to spend $1300 per month id that possible, it is possible right?

  7. Guys,

     

    I am seriously thinking of  moving Bangkok from the states at the end of the year.

    (I am going to get an ELITE visa)

     

    I want to rent a nice place and have 2 beautiful bottom Thai houseboys

    I've been to Thailand a few times I know what I'm in for 

     

    How much money will I need a month, minimally?

     

    and is there anything you can enlighten me with before I move 6 months from now?

     

    Thanks in Advance

  8. Hero is great I have been there a few times, but now I have a problem:  I was in Rio and went to Club 117 and it was AMAZING, now I am having a hard time trying to decide about where to go for my vacation in September Bangkok or Rio...

  9. Can somebody tell me how you can be a wasp (butterfly) and what bars to go to meet the guys I may wanna sting.

    I know where to go to just meet guys a met a hot guy at DJ Station my first trip to Bkk but what bars do I go to to meet bar boys?

    Bkk and Pattaya 

  10. Human sexuality is very complex.  

     

    While I identify as gay I will have sex with a woman once in a while and still say Im gay.  

    If a straight guy has sex with a man he has to go through some internal hell because he thinks he may be gay.  

     

    What really is the difference?

     

    Just enjoy whatever gender you want when you want it.

     

    Live your life for you, not any rules set by anyone else.

  11. FYI:

    I didn't get suckered by him (Connoisseur) all the money and gifts I gave him I think he deserved

    and its nice to make a pretty boy happy BUT being an ATM and paying his rent while I'm in the

    states and he is in Bkk is out of the question, That's being suckered!!

     

    On the advise of you guys I am going to be a butterfly (why cant it be called a Wasp? I cannot see myself as a butterfly lol)

    How does one be a butterfly in Bkk? Where do I go what do I do? I'd love to meet alot of cuties.

  12. Do any of you guys live in Thailand?

    I would like to hang out and also benefit from your knowledge of boys and Bangkok

    Maybe you can help me do better this time 

    I will be there the last 2 weeks in April for sure I just haven't selected the exact dates.

    I always stay in Silom but I plan on going to Payatta too on this trip

    If you live there and what to hang out please let me know

     

    Thanks

  13. WIth a little reflection on this situation,

    I am not going to let him distort my good feelings concerning Thailand (I really love the country)

    I am coming back in April for sure

    It will be my third trip

    I have not been to Pattaya and I wanna see it and Id like to just go out to the bars a meet people too

     

    The last time I spent all my time with him alone

    No bars no clubs, just restaurants and my hotel room

     

    I know there is a cute boy in walking around Thailand right now that is gonna be mine in about 6 weeks

    And when I come home that's where he will stay in every sense of the word

  14. Well I did email him and told him it was over and why

    He has yet to respond and I don't think he will

    Its a little disappointing for me but I know it had to be done

     

    I am debating on weather I should still come back to BKK in April.....

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