Wynter11

Lucky for me that I was I week earlier and got to see him. I would’ve been disappointed to arrive and find him missing from the show.

I’m not sure who is who, the announcer was hard to understand. There was a fairly tall one with a longer, slightly leaner torso that I liked but didn’t find exceptional compared to the guys I’d seen around the bars. The more chunky muscle guys do nothing for me.

I didn’t get to see Tam unfortunately, he wasn’t in the show on either of the nights that I was there. Nicky didn’t do much for me either but I thought him better looking than that photo. To be honest though, with the exception of Babe, I generally found the premium models a bit underwhelming for all the fuss.

When I encountered Nicky last week he seemed fine, no overt signs of ill health, but as I said in my post, I didn’t encourage him to stay long so perhaps I missed something. I think that photo is very unflattering and makes his body look quite squat and stocky. I would say that I thought he looked better in his leather jacket than in underwear on stage. His stage outfit is ill fitting and doesn’t show him to his greatest effect.

I get that not everyone is a natural dance but was anyone else confused by the fact that many of the younger guys don’t seem to want to be in the shows? It was particularly noticeable at the end of the show when the floor parade came back out. They seemed like they were meant to be doing a routine but made only the barest attempt to actually do it. Was a bit of a contrast to the main show where the quality was very high. Even the boys who had been in the show became lethargic in their movements.

Day 4 & 5 For my last night I ventured into Twilight again briefly but didn’t end up staying anywhere. I decided instead to return to Moonlight as it had been my favorite bar and I wasn’t feeling up to dealing with anymore grabbers who lie about shows that never happen. I was greeted knowingly by both the barker out front and the mamasan when I arrived. I was running slightly late and the show had recently started. Babe was already on stage and I was seated on a stool in a row closer to the stage than my last visit and close to the center. Given the improved view of Babe’s abs I was quite pleased with the development. He was in at least 2 but possibly 3 acts that I can recall though I may be blending the Tuesday and Thursday together. One of his numbers involved dancing with a headless mannequin in women’s clothes that was saved from cringeyness by the fact that Babe seemed well aware of how ridiculous he looked and sent knowing smiles out to the audience throughout. I think the song was ‘She Bangs’ by Ricky Martin. The beach themed towel routine featured again but this time round it would seem Babe had folded his towel a little clumsily and shortly after starting he suffered a major wardrobe malfunction that saw his towel drop suddenly exposing quite a bit more than he had intended. He reacted quickly snapping it back in place and folding it tighter but there were a few more slips throughout and combined with my much closer seat, I got a view that certainly felt worth the entry fee. If I hadn’t already been smitten then this performance would definitely have won me over. Babe’s complete lack of ego and open laughter whenever he suffered a mishap was hilarious to watch and I found myself grinning back up at him when he shot glances out into the audience to gauge our reaction. None of the other guys seemed to react or show any expression though. I’m not sure if it was fear of looking unprofessional or just a lack of humour in them but none seemed to react at all even when Babe missed steps trying to tie his towel and dance at the same time. This show was a highlight of my stay and I’d definitely be making my way to Moonlight again if I returned. The twink crew had become a foursome and did a routine I hadn’t seen before on the previous night. It was well choreographed and performed by the crew. You can see a photo of it on their FB page or in the moonlight thread where Hank has copied it over. For anyone curious, 24 is the one standing above the others. The next day I left the Raya just before noon as my flight was late and I was definitely not in a hurry to sit around the airport. I taxi’d back with no incident and relatively light traffic though the traffic coming the other way appeared to be in complete gridlock and the driver pointed it out and laughed as we went by. On the Raya, the hotel was perfectly positioned and the rooms large. I mentioned the flooding bathroom in my first post and that was an issue throughout despite my best efforts to mitigate it. There was also a lot of noise during the day due to renovations so late sleepers or those simply wanting to relax in their room during the day may want to avoid it until they have finished. I found the staff all very polite and my room was made up even when I had dawdled in the room until mid afternoon. Overall it was a fascinating experience and I’m sure I’ll return at some point though it may take a while longer than I’d like. Im thinking that I will try to ensure I’m there for the weekend next time though as I didn’t like being the only one in the bar and the shows seemed to get better later in the week. Thanks for following my waffling

24 is the one standing on the stairs above the others and this is the twinky routine I mentioned in my post. Thanks for the visual aide Hank :)

I don’t recall sex bomb from my visits last week but thee was some variation in the two shows I saw with dancers changing from one night to the next. A group of four twinks were doing a song together on the second night, one with some chest hair (notable as few others did) and the cutest of them (in my opinion) was 24 who wears a shirt during the parades. He has a sort of Korean pop style hair and face.

Day 3 I spent some time exploring Paragon and the aquarium. The aquarium wasn’t large by the standards of others I’ve seen (Osaka is a standout) but the center had a lot of interesting shops including a luggage section with current discounts where I was able to get a new suitcase replacement. I got the tourist discount card but apparently things already on sale don’t quality so it went unused in my wallet. The BTS from Sala Denang made the trip quick and easy though I found the ticket machine’s insistence on coins irritating. I seem to go through a lot of currency in Thailand and found myself strategizing ways to keep a decent range of money on hand as the atm prefers 1000 or 500 notes and charges 220 for foreign withdrawal so I didn’t want to be constantly taking out small amounts. This is something I’d never bother with at home. At night I headed out to see another bar on my list but where the previous two nights had been successful, this one ended in disappointment. This partially due to the bars themselves but also due to my own inexperience and the stress. Screw boys was first on my list and I made my way there quickly having accidentally spotted it earlier in the day while out and about. The bar had a lot of guys, many attractive but the bar was quite empty of patrons. A group at the back I had originally thought to be customers seemed to actually be off duty guys and friends of the bar having a laugh. The mamasan here (or captain? I’m never quite sure where the distinction lies as he wasn’t a ladyboy) was a bit more casually dressed and regrettably more pushy. Why they think gesturing broadly at the stage while I’m already looking at it is helpful, I don’t know but I was inclined to tell him to piss off as he was actually making it harder for me to see. I didn’t but he seemed to work out I wanted him gone and moved on. One of the guys (I think 20 but could be misremembering) was particularly gorgeous with a Korean look to his features though he later told me he was Thai. I bought him a drink but our chat was limited and he seemed uninterested so I sent him away with his tip. He quickly went back to hiding in the corner staring at his phone. Oh well. I decided to move on as the promised show had never materialized and I was wasn’t enjoying the vibe of the bar in general. Fresh boys was just upstairs and again I was promised a show starting in 20 min. I made the tactical error of letting the mamasan push me into choosing a drink as I was being seated and before I’d gotten my bearings and surveyed the room. I was the only patron and a while stage of boys were staring at me with keen interest. This was new and frankly I found it rather stressful especially when the mamasan sat down and started making loud comments and asking questions. Discretion doesn’t appear to be important in bar culture. The guys on show were nice enough but not eye catching. Another western man entered and left without sitting which only made me feel more foolish for having ordered so quickly. I finished the drink and moved on, feeling awkward in the face of multiple disappointed expressions. At this point I was feeling a bit emotionally drained and decided to head for Jupiter which I remembered as sounding more in line with moonlights professionalism. I wasn’t disappointed. A show was in progress and the room was quite full. Plenty of chairs left but all sections occupied. I was shown to a quiet spot to the side of the stage which was a little obstructed but allowed me to sit in peace which I was grateful for. This show also featured some drag queens and one seemed familiar from dreamboys. There were no drag cock reveals though so I enjoyed it a lot more. One dance number featured a well muscled sort flanked by drag queens. I wondered if he was meant to be the Babe of Jupiter but if he is then he really needs to work on his own dance skills instead of relying on the drag performers to support him. Overall I thought Jupiter quite good. The show was fairly polished and the guys generally good though smallish in number, possibly because it was already late. The captain turned up after the show but was busy so didn’t bother me for long. I then made my back to Twilight. The grabber for classic promised a show in progress with raunchy elements so I followed him down, dodging other grabbers who apparently regard you as fair game until you’ve stepped through a bars doorway. The show at classic was on but nearly done. Two guys were giving each other handjobs with some attempt at dancing. Neither were my type but one was at least good looking. The other was clearly employed because he had a large penis that he was willing to wag in public. After the finished the show they walked around trying to earn tips by letting people have a grope. I made my exit after this as the group that came back on stage didn’t seem all that appealing and a very noisy crown wearing mamasan was being obnoxious. On my way back through the soi I had looks in X boys and hotmale but both looked to be winding down and in one of them the boys all had to scramble back to the stage and then started clapping for me. Nope. That was way too much expectation for my liking so I decided to call it a night. This was the least enjoyable night of my stay but I learned a lot from it and I think I’d be less flustered a second time around. Back at the hotel I decided to open up Grindr to see the lay of the land. The land proved very fertile and I quickly understood why many prefer it to the bar scene. Overall, I felt that Jupiter was probably worth another look and longer stay. The other bars I mentioned weren’t as appealing though I’d say management more than quality of viewing material was to blame. I understand they need the business but a less aggressive approach really would benefit many of them and reap greater rewards. I have one more night of adventures which I’ll get around to writing up soon. Hopefully you’re still enjoying it.

Digress away, it was interesting! And I agree fully about Dreamboys. Everyone is someone’s type but surely the flabby niche can’t pay as well? I’ve now had quite a lot of sleep so I’ll get on with the next part

I’m stuck in another airport, the last transfer before home (thankfully) so I thought I’d add the next day. Day 2 My first mission of the day was to find a power adapter to keep my phone running as the room didn’t have any usb ports for charging. The Raya is currently undergoing some renovations (more on that later) so hopefully that’s on the to do list. I searched high and low through convenience stores and local towers hoping for an electronic stores only to eventually find what I needed at street vendor who just happened to have the relevant plug hanging prominently as I walked by. Crossing the streets without dying proved to be an invigorating experience to say the least and I feared death more or less constantly. Although by the time I left on Friday I was blithely carting suitcases into semi moving traffic with all the reckless abandon of a native so it probably wasn’t all that bad. Certainly something to get used to though, I don’t know why they bother with crossings as the taxis don’t seem to acknowledge them anyway. After a day of intense real life Frogger I decided I needdd a nap and went back to the hotel until the bars woke up around 10. I’d been following the Moonlight thread and enjoyed the stories about certain notables so I made it a priority to head there for my second bar visit. I was already appreciating The Raya’s location as it made getting to basically everywhere except Jupiter a very short walk. The barker saw me coming and guided me quickly down the lane. Entrance was 450 and came with a first drink which I liked because it meant I didn’t have to deal with receipt bins that I still found a bit bewildering. The captain was a fairly distinguished looking fellow around 50 I’d guess. He guided me to the back row benches which I liked because it felt easier to watch with some level of discretion. He sat himself beside me and proceeded to dispense information about the guys on stage. I was disappointed that many had shirts on but those without made up for it. This was very much twunk territory with a few very toned without being bulky. Some nice faces too. 36 and 24 are pointed out to me and as a side note, 36 keeps his Grindr profile open most of the time with a very simple profile picture and no information. Not sure if he’s moonlighting Moonlight or just up for fun. 36 is tall with a defined body and 24 is a Korean looking twink with a lightly toned body and very cute face but I had to wait for the show to find that out as 24 wears a shirt on stage. Around this time an attractive guy wearing a leather jacket and no shirt came sauntering in to chat to my captain. The captain moved on and jacket guy took his place next to me for a chat. You can probably guess who it was but for those who haven’t followed other threads, my new friend was Mr Nicky himself. We chatted but I was pretty clear in my body language that I wasn’t buying what he was selling. Eventually he asked if I wanted to buy him a drink, to which I responded ‘Oh no thank you’ with a smile before turning back to my stage watching. He gave up after that and moved off and I saw him happily ensconced next to another guy a little while later. He doesn’t seem to participate in the shows (I went twice during the week) like the other models, just doing his walk during the show finale. The show itself was my favorite of the bars and that’s probably only half because of Babe, whose gyrating hips and cheeky smile are more or less burned into my brain permanently. He could just stand there doing that towel/beach routine all day and I’d probably just sit there drooling and throwing money at him. He has a natural charisma that’s 50% being a very pretty man and 50% knowing how to point his dimples at every corner of the room to maximum effect. The show also featured some weird slow motion dancing by older guys that was a bit meh and a higher energy number involving some of the twinkier guys waving fans around while a drag queen lip synced. 24 featured in the fan act and captured my attention throughout. He was immediately sent down to sit with a patron post show so I’d say I wasn’t the only one who appreciated his talents. There was a shower show involving two of the slow motion guys who basically did the same routine while soapy. Lots of cock to be seen from this point on but none were the ones I was interested in. Captain was generally easy to deal with throughout, probably second to the dream boys captain in terms of not annoying me. The next night saw me go on a bit of a wander through several bars and was probably the steeper learning curve of the trip. I’ll write something up when my brain is less jet lagged. Thanks for for showing interest

Don’t write off Dreamboys just yet. The guys on show were generally good eye candy and I was visiting on a Monday so there’s a good chance I didn’t see the bars at their best. I completely missed the weekend at both ends of my trip and I noticed a definite uptick on the Thursday so I would be curious to see how the shows looked on a Friday or Saturday.

I’m currently sitting at ‘Swampy’ having just spent 4 nights in Bangkok. This was my first time in Thailand and I thought that there might be some interest in a fresh account? There will likely be details missing that some might be looking for, this is deliberate. Feel free to ask anything you’d like to know though and I’ll decide if it’s something I’m happy to share, but as a youngish person I have some concerns about the longevity of comments made on the internet. Day 1 I arrived in the late afternoon after a very long flight. Thailand was new territory for me so I wasn’t quite sure how anything worked but having spent a lot of time reading these forums I felt at least a little prepared. Immigration was simple though I did have a momentary panic when I saw the signs about visas and saw so many filling out forms. It turned out not to be relevant so I made my way though and joined the hordes looking for a taxi, or at least I thought that was what they were doing. A group of teenage boys were coming through arrivals, however, and they were they seemed to be causing a lot of excitement. A boy band maybe? There was a pretty decent crowd but fortunately they all chased after the apparently famous lads which cleared some space. I should mention at the point that the handle on my bag had broken mid flight so I was left dragging it by the top which would likely have been humorous for any onlookers had they not all been so singularly focused on the aforementioned boy band. I found the taxi line and after maybe 15min was on my way. The driver used the meter and didn’t seem to be a scoundrel which was a huge relief. I had the address for the Raya on my phone in Thai and that made things really simple. I was tired and jet lagged but as I pulled up in front of the Raya I could see the lights of Twilight and I quickly decided that sleep was for the weak. It was here that I committed my first faux pas as I had taken out cash at the airport but hadn’t realized I’d need such small change. Fortunately the doorman stepped out, paid the taxi for me and said I could sort the fare with reception. Excellent service and greatly appreciated. My room at The Raya was huge by hotel standards and quite nicely furnished, though the size left it feeling a little bare. My only issue with the room was that the shower/tub combo is badly designed and tends to flood the bathroom when used. A short while later I braved o and made my way into the soi. I was expecting the hot male and xboys guys and managed to brush them off as I made my leisurely way down, taking in the sights. Unfortunately this was a very clear signal to literally everyone that I was a first timer, faux pas number two. I kept brushing off the grabbers until the classic boys guy pointed out ‘there aren’t any more, that’s the end.’ He was correct so I turned back and headed into Dreamboys which was on my list of places I wanted to see. I was ushered in quickly and given a seat with a promise that the show would start soon. There were roughly two dozen patrons and around 20 guys parading around on stage. A broad range of shapes and sizes though I was left wondering why on earth some of them had been given a job. If you like twinks, twunks or muscular men then you’d have some eye candy to drool over. The show started as promised and my excitement turned to disappointment as the guys doing the dancing were amongst the oldest of the group and not the best looking either. A reluctance to be in the shows was a theme I would notice amongst the younger guys across the bars. The show was fine overall but very heavy on drag and frankly that didn’t appeal to me at all. The sudden revealing of large cocks from under dresses had all the subtlety of a footballer on talent night and subsequent acts involving the audience felt a tad cringey. But that may just be my own shyness, the guy they dragged from the audience seemed to be having a great time after all, despite treatment that bordered on molestation. The mamasan or captain at Dreamboys was probably the best of the bars I visited. He was subtle, polite and knew when to piss off and leave me alone, which was most of the time. At no time did I feel under pressure by him to make purchases though he made sure I knew how to ask if I wanted anything. That ended up being a lot longer than I’d expected. If there’s interest, I’ll continue when I have more time. Day 2 features Moonlight and a chance to see some famous/infamous names in the flesh.

Thanks for the info, Hank!

Wow. He’s perfect. Any idea what his name is and how much he costs?

Good point, I’m hoping to be in need of a spiritual cleansing by the time I leave

Thanks Hanan! Also, does it matter what part of the week I choose? It’s easier to fit in my schedule if I come during the week but will I be missing anything by not coming over a weekend?

Thanks for responses, everyone. Currently seeing if I can squeeze in an extra day or two so I can split between the two places as it sounds like that might be the easier way to go. On to bar advice, if I was looking for non fem but twinky kinda guys, lean swimmer types... is there a bar in particular you’d suggest I prioritize? Thanks in advance again for the shared wisdom

Hi, I’m planning a short stop in Pattaya as part of a longer trip this January, likely mid month. Probably about 4-5 Days. Wondering if people have any hotel advice? Mostly I’m wondering whether to stay closer to boyztown or Jomtien. Also interested in Sunee. Less concerned with budget than location and convenience since I’ll only be there a few days and want things to be easy. Any general advice for that time of year would be good too. I realize it’s high season but don’t really know how much of an effect that might have on the trip. Cheers in advance for any help.