JKane

AND available (for the RIGHT price)... Know I've seen him on one of the porn sites.

I'd prefer longer as well.

You make several good points, I've been thinking along these lines for a while myself... But there are several problems with giving up the word Marriage. The only way I could imagine this working would be to establish 'civil unions' for all, the gov't has no place in the religious institution of marriage... If you wan't the benefits, rights and responsibilities, you get a civil union. Your church wants to also call you married... that's it's business but it'd have no bearing on gov't or employment services. Nothing approaching that has ever been seriously proposed to my knowledge. What has been... Federal half-assed and state by state, doesn't seem much better than what we already have by consensus in all but the most backward of places. To me there's a constitutional issue, and not the one most think. Even if we had the situation above and 'civil unions' were 100% equivalent to marriage now you're also telling churches they CAN'T have gay marriage. I'm guessing the Unitarians and several other sects would like to. But instead the federal government is heading towards ESTABLISHING that the wishes of the Mormons, Catholics, etc have precedence. Yeah, THE MORMONS get to tell everybody else what's acceptable in marriage... sound fucked up to anybody else? And dismissing marriage as a 'breeder thing' seems counterproductive, to me one of the best justifications for gay marriage is the raising of families, entire families which don't deserve to be relegated to second-class status because of what some religious leaders say. But I do agree that it's been pushed too hard and at the wrong times. It seems clear to me we've lost more than we've gained so far...

It might just be that he's trying to be a journalist. He's not the story, he's not a celeb. And he hasn't denied it either. IF he's not instantly dismissed as 'that gayboy anchor' his coverage of a gay issue might penetrate deeper in middle America.

Sorry to hear about your experience. I was surprised it's now apparently a common 'party' drug as I'd only heard of it as date-rape before. You make some good points, sounds like this does belong higher on the enforcement list than pot.

From the Scott Adler thread upon learning of the drugs he was allegedly caught with... Another thread says GHB is indeed 'Schedule 1' (what isn't?) so while some may be relieved it wasn't coke or the vile meth the courts may not be able to make any distinction. Not to endorse his actions at all, but why the fuck can't we have drug laws approaching sensibility in this country, with Meth, Crack and Heroin at the top of enforcement priorities and penalties? Instead we've currently got the whole of LA County chasing their tales trying to find a way to bust pot dispensaries at the moment. Anybody with a brain would load up all the officers available for that into buses and drive them to the Antelope Valley or Inland Empire for a weekend of busting Meth houses... AND the less Pot we get from Mexico the less that entire country is encouraged to fall to pieces. How do we get these bullshit racism-based schedules (is it even plural or is absolutely everything schedule 1 now?) tossed if favor of ones drawn up by medical and law enforcement professionals based on actual harm done to addicts and others?

If correct, it's interesting that the drugs he's been caught with were only MDMA and GHB. I could swear 'harder' drugs were implied by previous websites/posts, making him out to be the Pablo Escobar of the escort scene, a level of criminality I'd never seen in him the few times we met socially. So are the penalties lower? As long as this isn't his third strike isn't he likely to be out soon?

Been like that in some Los Angeles categories for months.

I'm downright disgusted that nothing has happened on campaign finance reform, and think that not taking that on FIRST was a major strategic error of the Obama administration. Don't you think Healthcare reform would've made more progress if Kaiser/Etc's name had to be on the end of all their FUD advertisements?

I think we're past the point that something should force the removal of 'news' from their name. Not to mention re-enacting the antitrust and anti-monopoly rules that used to be very strong on overseeing media ownership. There is no good reason for Murdock to be allowed to own satellite delivery, terrestrial stations in most major markets, newspapers in most major markets, and cable 'news' channels on top, especially since his ownership is demonstrably not in the public interest. But expecting the Obama administration to DO instead of just SAY has been fairly fruitless so far. I wonder what will happen to his empire when Rupert finally kicks the bucket?

I haven't been back to the forums over there since the *last time* Daddy threw a hissy fit and shut them down. That the cycle continues isn't a surprise, but it does decide for me on the issue of donating.

AFAIK there's nothing left in Hollywood, but I haven't tried the Spotlight recently. Craigslist has been especially good to me lately--despite their attempts to reduce escorting on their board. Boy's posts don't stay up for long anymore but I've had very good luck posting as 'generous guy looking for...' in the m4m section over the last month or two.

Of course we all take a risk with our activities. I was saying it should be my choice whether or not to increase that risk by associating with somebody who's arrested/indicted for a serious crime and has good reason to be extraordinarily desperate. I'm all for privacy but I feel this board should, if necessary, rank ours above that of somebody who'd gone out of his way to be a 'superstar male escort' at the center of controversy and gossip at every chance he got. I don't pay particular attention to real names or put any effort into tracking who's really who but even I knew this escorts' real first name and had heard his last--despite no interest in him. In this particular case the info was out there and I just don't see the point in pretending it's not... leaving those well-connected with the warning and everybody else potentially exposed.

It would make sense for this thread to remain about the decision to post/censor and the new thread to be about the event itself, but that's already falling apart... My desire would be to see this board err on the side of the safety of clients, because isn't avoiding hustlers/robbers/assailants a primary use of a review site? Now, I agree that there was no danger to anybody at the point the original thread was censored. Given that he was in jail--apparently without bail--there was no urgency at that point and letting the situation firm up and become definite certainly has some merit. However, I would suggest that the previous arrest and conviction are another matter entirely. This was apparently fairly well known by the powers that be yet kept quiet. Granted, there are a fair number of people out there that take perverse pleasure in sullying a successful escort, but once it gets to the point that there's not just arrests but *convictions* I feel it can only help the client community to know that somebody is on a self-destructive spiral and to be wary. Even without those convictions, given the seriousness of the current charges and his 'infamy' in our community (the fact that he'd regularly insinuate himself into any gathering)... please consider this scenario: A well-known escort is arrested on serious charges, it's known by a few but kept quiet, he gets released but is facing a major trial and tough mandatory sentencing. As usual he shows up at some get-together, but something is very different because unbeknown to (most) everybody else he's got those charges hanging over him... -Possibility one: he is both desperate and has nothing left to loose, so he sees no downside to unsafe or criminal activities (burglary, blackmail, etc). -Two, he's desperately trying to get a plea and is going around trying to get anybody to say anything that cops listening on the other end of the wire could use to trump up a charge--big enough and it reduces his sentence. -Three, and not even of his doing, he's being watched and the place is raided, as Lurkerspeaks suggested... may well be that there's nothing especially criminal going on but the precious anonymity of a bunch of people gets shot to hell. It may well be different if the escort in question didn't choose to make himself a celebrity and strive to be at (the center of) any event. But the one in question did. My two cents anyway.

Here's some other good points on the granting of the award to Obama.

Levi's pretty stupid, granted, but the fact that the Governor in question is a batshit crazy hyper-religious zealot that backed 'abstinence only' education to the hilt is also an important part of the equation. At least the child they created can be the poster-child against abstinence only bullshit. Levi is kinda cute though. There's this pistachio (of all things) campaign that has an ad featuring him, the tagline is "now Levi does it with protection". After I saw it I wondered how long 'till he's doing porn... I'd look... but not sure I'd pay to.

I saw it, it's typical Moore: provocative, but may hurt it's cause as much as it helps. At least it gets people talking. It's kinda scatter-shot too... if it has any theme it's pro-labor unions. He makes a good case but something like The Corporation does what Love Story purports to do much better. It's not as good as Sicko.

I don't really see the point of a political subforum, especially when things are otherwise being consolidated to encourage conversation. Many threads wander in and out of politics, and it seems to me the 'other site' tried this--basically any thread that got a political post or two in it got dropped into the no-man's land of rantings and lunacy which almost nobody read.

In similar studies in the past it's been sex workers, often in the third-world. Or it sounds like in this case they did a big enough group of the general population (of people who will participate in medical studies...). There's plenty of information out there about how medical studies are conducted, it's fascinating and very important work. There have been instances of abuse but your assumptions that the people who work in the field are stupid and immoral is hard to understand.

Yeah, doctors tell people to go out and catch AIDS to see if it works... You give it to high risk group BEING CLEAR that it may not work, doesn't offer any protection against other diseases, and that they may have only gotten a placebo. Then you compare the rate of infection of the control (placebo) group to the ones that got the vaccine. Just like any other medical trial.

Didn't you hear??? Arnold's got the answer!!! Cut the taxes on all Californians making more that 1 million a year by over $100,000 dollars, that'll fix the state budget shortfall... (I wish I was kidding, this IS his latest proposal!)

Can't forget Libertarians!

But of course! They're both owned by Rupert Murdock!

I agree, I really doubt the state Dems are capable of nominating anybody exciting. I'm betting it'll be Diane Feinstein in the end... I'd sooner vote for a potted plant, myself. Who knows, the closest thing to excitement may be in the primaries! BUT who's to say the midterms would be any more exciting? At least with the gubernatorial there'll be people pissed about the (COMPLETE lack of) direction Arnold's set for the state...

You can pay the taxes due on $100,000 and realize how fortunate you are!