Blacklisting and Deporting

[Guest luvthai]

I just read where the four males arrested back in May were immediately taken to Bangkok and blacklisted and deported without benefit of trial or a day in court. How often does this happen? Is the passport stamped in someway or is it just listed in the computers. How many of the arrested lately have been deported?

[Gaybutton]

I find that a little difficult to believe. Where did you read this?

[Guest luvthai]

It was on the thai visa web site, pattaya forum. It is a locked thread but still there for the viewing. I also looked up the Pattayapeople report on this and it also said they were sent to Bangkok blacklisted and deported.

[Gaybutton]

It was on the thai visa web site, pattaya forum. It is a locked thread but still there for the viewing. I also looked up the Pattayapeople report on this and it also said they were sent to Bangkok blacklisted and deported.

 

Can you please post the URL's?

[Guest joseph44]

It was on the Thaivisa forum (Pattaya Forum) indeed:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Where-s-Justice-t190127.html

 

BUT there was just a rumour.

IF it's true that the 4 have been blackisted and deported, it proves only that the 4 cases were set-ups by the BIB and therefore possibily illegal, because they used underaged boys as baits.

 

 

[payless]

It was on the Thaivisa forum (Pattaya Forum) indeed:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Where-s-Justice-t190127.html

 

BUT there was just a rumour.

IF it's true that the 4 have been blackisted and deported, it proves only that the 4 cases were set-ups by the BIB and therefore possibily illegal, because they used underaged boys as baits.

 

It does not prove any such thing. Even if it were true then unless they were child predators they would not have been caught hook line and sinker as they would not have gone for the bait in the first place.

 

From http://www.dailyxpress.net/2008/05/20/crime/crime_2299.php

Child molesters held in Pattaya

 

Daily Xpress

Published on May 20, 2008

 

Four foreigners have been arrested in Pattaya for sexually molesting boys.

 

Canadian national Christopher Dee, 43, American Michael Paul Willy, 30, Briton Michael Terence Burns, 65, and Japanese Noboru Fukuda, 73, were all arrested on warrants issued by Pattaya Court for sexually molesting minors, said Central Investigation Bureau deputy commander Maj-General Panya Mamen.

 

Unfortunately it is not too difficult to get round a blacklisting and I am aware of one guy who has returned after blacklisting. He changed his name by deed poll and received a new passport and is now living back in Pattaya. He was blacklisted for making porn movies and selling them on the net.

[Gaybutton]

He changed his name by deed poll

 

Deed poll? That is a term unfamiliar to me. What does it mean?

[payless]

Deed poll? That is a term unfamiliar to me. What does it mean?

 

A Deed Poll is a legal document - not a certificate. It is a form of legal contract but it differs from legal contracts between two or more parties in that it only concerns one person (and it is only signed by that person). A Deed Poll therefore binds the person who signs it to a particular course of action as detailed on the Deed Poll document.

 

Although Deed Polls are used for various purposes relating to an individual legally committing themselves to doing something, they have one generally accepted meaning, that is, a change of name. However, the correct legal name for a deed that has been drawn up to change someone's name is a Deed of Change of Name. http://www.ukdps.co.uk/WhatIsADeedPoll.html

[Guest fountainhall]

He changed his name by deed poll

 

There was a famous case in the UK quite some time ago about a guy with a fairly common name like John Smith changing his name by deed poll to Lord Smith. It worked wonders in getting him free upgrades to first class on flights etc.

[Guest lester1]

This thread started as a question about what happened to people who were arrested for supposedly breaking the law. Many times you read in the Pattaya news sources, both internet and press, that people are arrested and full details as to reasons are given, effectively smearing the people involved. This happens all the time all over the world. However, were this to happen in Europe or the US, the press would be anxious to follow up once the case comes to trial, and eventually give publicity to the verdict. This is fine as it gives a chance for a person proved innocent to have that fact publicised, and conversely, if it goes the other way, allows the sentence or fine awarded to act as a deterrent for the future.

In Thailand, very rarely do you find such follow ups are pursued. This might reflect a reluctance on the part of the press, or possibly because the court proceedings are private. I dont know enough to comment here.

Conspiracy theorists might assume that the various ways criminals have of 'avoiding the law' might force the authorities not to allow a public show of what happens post arrest. However, going back to the high profile cases in question, I would assume that would insure a certain transparency of proceedings. Where defendants are, when is the trail date, what happened at the trial, and what was the verdict; all should be on public record. Rarely do you find out what happens through the offices of the news media.

I can remember a couple of years back, wanting to know what fate befell the russians who robbed a bank and who were caught on board ship off the coast of Pattaya. It was BIG news at the time. Not a word about what happend to the russians hit the news.