Members Lucky Posted May 3, 2019 Members Share Posted May 3, 2019 A study shows that men with HIV who have taken anti-HIV therapy to the point of being "undetectable" can no longer transmit the virus. A condom free world for gay men is at hand! https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/02/end-to-aids-in-sight-as-huge-study-finds-drugs-stop-hiv-transmission AdamSmith and MsGuy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thomas_88 Posted May 3, 2019 Members Share Posted May 3, 2019 Hi Lucky, very good news indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted May 3, 2019 Members Share Posted May 3, 2019 Are there other reasons to use a condom? Best regards, RA1 MsGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted May 3, 2019 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 hours ago, RA1 said: Are there other reasons to use a condom? Best regards, RA1 Only if your partner has VD and you might catch it from him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 There are actually a shit ton now of other super-virus versions of formerly easily fought STDs. From mainly our mass dumping into the waterways of industrial quantitities of antibiotics by the poultry farms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thomas_88 Posted May 4, 2019 Members Share Posted May 4, 2019 20 hours ago, RA1 said: Are there other reasons to use a condom? Best regards, RA1 Yes, I use condoms to masturbate and my husband uses condoms to fuck new sneakers. MsGuy, Riobard, rgb23 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted May 4, 2019 Members Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thomas_88 said: Yes, I use condoms to masturbate and my husband uses condoms to fuck new sneakers. When someone sneaks into my house I initially decide whether to call the cops. Otherwise, I def would use a condom for fucking if there is no current lab evidence (assuming the sneaker may be poz and taking antiretroviral therapy) verifying the viral load is below the measurable limit of quantification ("undetectable"). [100% non-transmissable among those with "undetectable" virus due to ARV uptake] does not equal ["undetectable" virus among 100% of those on ARV]. The reason treatment is permanent is because "undetectable" is not the same as non-existent. "Undetectable" status is impressively consistent these days but only as good as the latest blood test. Beware the blindspots when interpreting research findings. Condom use relaxation may be more appropriate where the sexual partners are more than casual and have a viable system for sorting out prophylaxis based on current transparently shared lab data. Edited May 4, 2019 by Riobard nycman, AdamSmith and MsGuy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted May 4, 2019 Members Share Posted May 4, 2019 If someone sneaks into my house they may be greeted by either Mr.Smith or Mr. Wesson. If there is any fucking going on it likely will not involve a condom. I completely agree that undetectable is not the same as non-existent. It is difficult to be in control when there are so many wonderful folks out there to tempt us. However, we must do the best we can or suffer the consequences. Best regards, RA1 AdamSmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thomas_88 Posted May 5, 2019 Members Share Posted May 5, 2019 20 hours ago, Riobard said: ...assuming the sneaker may be poz and taking antiretroviral therapy... The reason for using a condom to fuck new sneakers is to keep the new sneakers clean. AdamSmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
