Travellerdave

Its very hard to get an accurate impression of a gogo bar from the quick glance allowed by the door staff. They will usually allow you several seconds before they try to draw the curtain. There could be no boys on the stage or dancing podiums (as Eros) when you get your glance inside, that appeal to you, but maybe there's another group somewhere that you cannot see. I feel uneasy if i enter and am the only customer and i am relieved when more come in, unless they acquire a boy that i was appraising. I wouldn't enter, sit down and then not liking what i see, leave the bar without ordering a drink. So i suppose the minimum i would spend there would be 20 minutes.

During my recent trips I have spent a lot less time in Pattaya gogo bars than I did when I made my first visits seven or eight years ago. Then I stayed and circulated a lot in Sunee, where there was a greater number of bars than now, such as Euroboys and Kaos. This is partly due to the advent of Gayromeo, in many ways a more convenient way of acquiring a boy. I don't enter a gogo bar for conversation, as usually this is impossible due to loud music and my poor hearing, and painfully loud music would encourage me to leave after only one drink. The attractiveness of the boys of course is the major factor and a few cute ones always encourages me to stay, but it frustrates me when I find them occupied with other customers or when one I have picked out vanishes when he finishes his dance, instead of sitting with me. I find a difficult decision in a bar early about 9 pm is when you see an attractive boy you think about offing longtime for the night. But I wouldn't want to return to my room at that time and also I wouldn't want his company until then. But failure to off could result him going with someone else. I visit host bars more in the early evening particularly in Jomtien where the Bamboo Bar is a favourite of mine. The boys there can actually converse and the music is at a pleasant level.

If your objective is to have gay sex you might be better to hire a boy from a bar or via online with gayromeo, and enjoy in the more comfortable situation of your hotel than the average massage room.

I remember an amusing incident that happened to me seven years ago after my second visit to pattaya. I had offed a boy from the Kaos gogo in Sunee for three nights and in the morning of my departure day he said he would like to stsy in touch by email but did not have an account and didnt know how to get one. I took him to an internet cafe and created a hotmail account for him, showing him the password and telling him to change it later. After about a week i received a message telling me he missed me and hoped i would return to Thailand soon. Also requesting 7000 baht to prevent the family pickup truck being repo'd adding that a remittance via Western Union would be best. I didnt respond but a few days later another email arrived repeating the 7000 request and adding 3000 for his rent which was due. I knew he couldnt be short of money as he was rather hot and had been working at Kaos for a couple of months. I hacked his email account and found he had not changed the password and discovered he had sent the identical message to another guy in Australia !. His English was too good so the messages were probably composed by a professional story writer . I returned to Pattaya two months later and found him still at Kaos. I asked him about his scam, without mentioning the hacking. He told me that farangs were fair game and he was there to make money.

Another nail in the coffin of Sunee Plaza. In this forum we discus boys, bars, hotels, the Thai political situation etc etc. This thread is more tragic.

I'm with you Vinapu on your view about your preference for dying with a shrinked dick. I try and maintain a healthy lifestyle with excercise and diet, and maybe this can help to avoid the deterioration referred to. I'm now in later middle age and whilst I have no measurement data to support this I don't believe my dick has shrunk. Prior to discovering Pattaya I used to visit Playa del Ingles a gay resort in the Spanish Canaria Islands, and there I mixed sexually with gays around my own age in bars and on the gay nude beach. I was not conscious of the shrinking phenomium. I have never contracted a sexual disease but I worry about this when I have had oral sex with Thai boys. I try and avoid them cumming in my mouth and also I take the usual precautions of not brushing my teeth before and after. I had an HIV check at Pattaya Memorial Hospital during my latest visit and was nervous waiting for the results, which were thankfully negative. Dick size is a little significant to me. I'm versatile and like to be topped during an overnight and like a large one, but not huge. Sorry guys for going off at a tangent about health in this discussion.

A number of the movies feature bare back anal penetration I think this is to be regretted. I have subscribed to this site in the past, but i wont in future for this reason. Im sure most members of this forum would never themselves play Russian roulette in this way.

Yes I believe that PBM has a waiting list of aspiring cameramen, even though there is no remuneration. In fact you have to pay to do the job !. Just joking !. Over the last couple of years in Pattaya I've been trying to spot PBM boys there, but I've only definitely seen three, out of the hundreds who have appeared on the website. One was working in a bar in Jomtien. Mot Kwang was working in Mic My gogo last year before the big raid, and I offed him twice. I saw Phet working in Sunee two years ago. I haven't seen Set so sorry Firecat. I wonder where they all are - I'm sure a lot of them are working in the Thai gay sex industry. Probably some of the pictures date back a few years and perhaps the boys have retired. It would be interesting to have some feedback from PBM.

I agree with your comments Christian. I try not to involve the staff, unless the boy does not speak English and there is need for translation. This can happen occasionaly such as when he comes from Cambodia and has had no education. With inexperienced boys I think its important for them to know what is expected, in my case being both top and bottom. As to the phone problem - they need to be tirned off. I dont appreciate being woken up by some Thai music ringtone.

Excellent summary of the procedure for offing a boy from a gogo. I would only add a couple of extra points. If you see a hot boy that you are attracted to, act quickly because there a good chance that someone else will beat you to him. This has happened to me in the past and I have gone back early the following night only to find the guy has offed the boy yet again. I like kissing so I like to make sure the boy is ok with that in the bar. Also I check his dick for hardness - as I am versatile and don't want a failure when he tops me.

Up2u Yes I do - mainly Gayromeo. But I categorise boys joining me on the beach and then having sex with them as GR hookups. I had two of these this year. Another difference with 2007 was that I visited Samsuk Sauna four times. I don't think it was in business 7 years ago.

Reflecting on the lack of boys on the beach, I had a look at my diary for 2007 when I visited Pattaya for the first time in February for a similar period to my holiday this year. I saw that I had sex with 4 different boys that I met on the beach, compared with zero this year. Two encounters resulted in 3 long times at my Pattaya hotel and two for sex in a short time room at Jomtien. I also saw that my principal source of boys in 2007 was Sunee bars/gogos, whereas as this year I only had two from there. Of course the big increase over the 7 years was boys from GR. if it existed in 2007 I wasn't aware. I've kept diaries over many years when the habit started due to a work requirement and sports.

More of these please on the beach ! I love those cute speedos. Is that a shell next to his arm ? !

It's definitely IcecreamKa. He was very busy when I was there, but I have yet to buy one of his ices. On reflection I did notice during my recent Pattaya holiday that there were far fewer beach vendors than before. DVD sellers seemed to be completely absent as were temporary tattoo artists, although due to the age profile on the gay beach that's not really surprising. I remember a few watch sellers and many trinket ladies. Massage men and lady manicurists seemed to be as numerous as before. Maybe this is just my imagination.

I see that IcecreamKa is still wearing a hat in the picture. I can't recall him ever not wearing one. Also I've never seen him wearing other than shorts and a tee shirt. I wonder what prompted him to pose in very brief speedos. He looks rather sexy !.

Crazy pilot Plenty of Thai boys come to Samsuk Sauna. I had them in the cubicles. I think they get a reduced entry fee. They are looking for farang boyfriends. Money does not change hands there, but no doubt it does later. Some farangs take their Thai boyfriends.

Yes the nearest I've got to an orgy in Thailand was during my visits to the Samsuk Sauna in Pattaya. There in the darkened cruising areas I groped and was groped and engaged in tongue kissing. I was only able to recognise vaguely the more desirable bodies and try and tempt them into the cubicles for more advanced intercourse, including anal and oral. I would recommend crazy pilot to give that a try, as if this experience proves not to be to his liking its easy to leave. Offing 2 boys from a bar is easy but expensive (2 boy drinks, 2 off fees, 2 tips etc etc). Sometimes the boys are not compatible, for example when one is shy and the other one confident. It's better to try and get two who have worked together before, rather than selecting them at random. Also some hotels make an charge for an additional guest.

Nice z909 Here's some more boys on the beach, so it's not yet totally a boy desert

Very nice Abang - I would love to join you on that beach wearing one of my thongs. I have several from when I used to holiday in Gran Canaria at the gay resort of Playa del Ingles. Mind you they often came off particularly in the dunes behind the beach. I took them to Pattaya on my first visit intending to wear them at Dongtan, but I discovered the dress code there to be rather more modest !.

I often wonder what goes through the minds of the boys we bring back to luxurious hotels such as the Renaissance, Taratawan or even the Ambiance in Pattaya. They are a world away from the extremely basic rooms with rough beds or no beds at all, troughs of cold water, and concrete floors, that they seem to inhabit. I suppose it's what they are used to at their home in Isaan. I once asked a hot boy, who I had given a few thousand baht to and who didn't spend many nights not in the bed of customers, why he didn't upgrade his room. I got the impression that he didn't value the comforts that we in the West regard as essential.

Guideneeded Yep you got me there. I was able to edit this guy out and replaced him by sand. He was wandering about looking for a 10 baht chair and a 50 baht massage.

More boys on the beach required like this cutie.

4500 baht for a room ?. I have never paid anything like that in Thailand, even though I am well able to afford it. I suppose I am a cheap Charlie at heart. I stayed at the Tantarnwan last August and that was good enough for me. A very comfortable room and an excellent breakfast and of course close to gay bars. I think I paid about 2000.