Travellerdave

I very much enjoy the time i spend on the Dongtan Beach during my frequent visits to Pattaya. I like the sea air and the relative calm atmosphere that prevails there, as compared with the majority of other beach areas which run parallel to busy roads with noise and pollution. Also i prefer my fellow customers there rather than Thai families and females who predominate elsewhere. We all bemoan the lack of eye candy these days, but maybe thats the problem. Ive seen small groups of Thai boys sitting for long periods without any approach by farangs, who seem more interested in chatting amongst themselves and just enjoying eye candy. They get discouraged having had to spend money for the chair and drinks and dont come again. I have sometimes tipped a waiter to invite a boy to join me for a drink which often is a rewarding experience for both of us.

50 is an impossibly young age to retire. Given life expectancy in advanced countries of 80 years then one would spend as long in retirement as workng. Here in the UK we can only draw pension funds from the age of 55. I am in semi retirement spending periods working but having plenty of time for holidays in Thailand mainly, but occasionally in European gay resorts. For healthcare i rely mainly on the British NHS plus a top-up insurance policy. Whilst travelling i have a annual travel policy, which so far i have not made a claim on, so do not really know how if its a good one. To live full time in Thailand i think i would need an assured income of at least 100,000 per month and even that would be insufficient to support spending at the level i maintain on holiday.

I was at the beach quite often during my last trip sitting in the second concession from the toilet and yes I remember him in the cowboy hat on one occasion. I think he was sat in the adjoining concession with a couple of farangs but i cant recall what he was wearing. If i had seen the white speedos or even better a thong my dick would have responded !. I suppose concession owners have no control over the ages of boys there. The only boys i sat with on the beach were those i had contacted on GR and invited to join me with a view to accompanying me back to my hotel. Of course they did not turn up with skimpy beach wear. In the past i did buy speedos for a boyfriend du jour, for him to wear with me at the beach or round the pool at the Samsuck.

In Which concession was your picture taken ?. White speedos always display the boys brown skin in a highly erotic way. Unfortunately there is now a lack of boys at Dongtan beach whereas a few years ago a lot used to be there particularly in the late afternoon looking for gays.

The female is usually at the reception desk dealing with admissions although she does appear in the other areas even the darkened higher floors. I suppose there is a need to police behaviour there. Some guys stand on the cubicle beds to watch activity in the adjoining ones, despite notices banning this. I don't mind this - i suppose I'm an exhibitionist. There are also notices banning money payments, but again this does not seem to be enforced. A few younger money boys are welcomed by the mainly older farang costomers.

Samsuk in Pattaya has got it right with their darkrooms and maze. Some areas are semi dark and others virtually pitch black. In the former I look for guys I find attractive let them see me and then follow them into the dark where i make my advances. I usually wear i very brief speedos where i place my condom and lube in a small pocket. These display my dick to its full advantage.

Yes he smiled and kissed me. You think i should give more ?.

I visited Magnolia yesterday evening at about 5.30 and found the place after a little cruising about on my hired motorbike. The gay flag at the entrance is looking a bit bedraggled and there was no-one at the reception desk when I arrived - the guy was asleep on the couch. However the place gives a good impression - smart with nice furniture. I was told there were only three masseurs available (its very quiet in Pattaya just now and there seemed to be know other customers). The three looked very similar and i wasn't given any details so i took pot luck for a one hour massage at 500 baht. I was shown to a rather nice room with a shower ensuite and the table was covered with a white sheet, which is replaced after each customer. I showered, laid on the bed and my boy appeared after a short wait. He started naked and worked on my back in a rather expert fashion. I rather cut the massage a little short with my wandering hands after feeling his cock between my buttocks. I was ready to be topped as i had been fucking twinks during the previous days. Im versatile. Very enjoyable. I paid a tip of 700 and left rather satisfied with my visit.

I dont have difficulty having an enjoyable time during the day in Pattaya. Sometimes i invite my off to have breakfast with me and then occasionally he accompanies me to the Dongtan Beach, but only if he has some conversation. I like the sea air and quiet ambiance and always take my Kindle to do some reading, but this is rather minimal if I'm sat with a nice boy wearing speedos !. At some point i take some exercise, which can take the form of jogging, gym or swimming, although an hours walk can be equally beneficial. Reading the Two English newspapers online i subscribe to fills in some time, as does chatting to other visitors or expats, gay or hetro, hearing their stories about Pattaya Suddenly i find the sun has gone down and my thoughts turn to the evening ahead, but an hour or two nap helps to put me on the best form. I do occasionally have a massage usually in the Jomtien Centre as I am returning from the beach, but during the day sexual activity is not a priority - that happens in my room overnight. On the subject of reading I've just finished a book by Barry Kenyon, who was British Consul in Pattaya for a number of years. A fascinating account of trials and tribulations experienced by British expats and visitors and his efforts to help them.

For Pattaya the bus is an option partly on the grounds of safety. Taxis do the 60 miles from Swampy in only a little over an hour in light traffic but in my opinion not safely in that they drive too close to vehicles ahead and change lane erratically. You have more protection on the large buses. The saving in fares of about 1300 baht is a secondary factor. Most flights from Europe arrive during the day (mine does at about 7am) when the buses operate. The Bell Travel service is best which takes you to the bus station on North Pattaya Road where you transfer to mini buses to your hotel. The transit time is only a little over 2 hours. There is also the public bus which is cheaper but this drops you off on Sukumvit Road and you have to make your own way from there, so not a good option for Pattaya first-timers.

Most popper users bring a supply from their home country. As mentioned the risk of trouble as a result is negligible so long as you are not stupid.

Poppers are sometimes on sale on Dongtan Beach.

Im with the majority here. I like to send them into the shower first. This gives me the chance to secure my wallet and maybe my ipad and iphone. Ive never had a theft but its better not put temptation their way. If ive had some beer i love a cup of tea which seems to relax me after a night out. They are normally in the shower a long time using prodigious quantities of shower gel. I like to start sex under the sheet . Their brown bodies look good against its whiteness. After sex or in the morning thats a good time for mutual showering.

I lost my wallet in Bangkok 2 years ago. I had visited the Temple of the Dawn and had ascended the steep steps up to a high platform. I then returned to the Taksin Bridge by the water bus, intending to take the skytrain back to my hotel from where i had arranged a taxi to the airport for my return home. I had used my coins on the water bus and reached for my wallet in my shorts pocket, but it was gone. I think it probably fell out clambering up the steps as i had paid with a note to enter the temple and i cant recall anyone being near me on the boat. I had to get back to the hotel quickly for my flight and a taxi would be too slow through early evening grid lock. I considered trying to use the Skytrain without paying, but a spell in the Bangkok Hilton did not appeal. I persuaded a motor bike taxi to take me on the promise of a generous fare despite my lack of cash, particularly if he made good time. We went at high speed between traffic lanes, on pavements, and through a park. At the hotel i retrieved money, spare card and passeport from the room safe and gave the guy 300 baht - he was delighted and so was I. I had time to telephone to cancel the card which was in the wallet before heading to the airport and eventually home. I only lost about 3000 baht as i dont make a habit of carrying more than this in my pocket. I did lose my executive airport lounge pass but settled for Starbucks.

For my next trip in a couple of weeks i am contemplating staying either at Baan Souy or Samsuk Sauna. I wonder if anyone could give me pointers as to which would be the best choice. They are close together in a quiet location which i would prefer. I could hire a motor bike for visiting Jomtien during the day and i have no difficulty walking from there to BT or Sunee and i use motor bike taxis. Both places have good reports on Tripadviser. The pool at Samsuk is tiny but the one at Baan Souy is much bigger, although i know the gym at the former is OK. I enjoy the scene at Samsuk in the early evening. I suppose i could book initially for a couple of days and maybe move as its low season. Price isn't much of an issue.

In 8 years of visiting Thailand i have had very little sexual contact with other farangs. Thai (including Cambodian/vietamese) boys are who i like. The only exceptions were encounters in gay saunas. When i used to vacation in European gay resorts over 20 years i must have had sex with representatives of most Western Countries.

The question is not stupid but rather clumsy. Bareback is available in Thailand but I'm sure that few forum members here would indulge. I certainly would not. I value my life too much to risk it for a short period of enhanced pleasure. Whilst in bed with boys i place open condoms on both bedside tables ready for use when sometimes im half asleep.

I often hire a motorbike in Pattaya as I value the convenience of quickly moving between the different venues that I enjoy, such as Dongtan Beach, Samsuk Sauna and BT/Sunee, although I don't use the bike at night. In 9 years of visiting Thailand I have never hired a car and in fact I avoid using them as a passenger. From Suvanaphuni to Pats I generally take the big bus as I find Thai driving to be dangerous, in particular they drive far to close to vehicles in front and make erratic lane changes at speeds well above the limit. The drivers often look very tired and rely on their Budha image for protection. Maybe the odds of a accident are 100/1 as against 1000/1 in US or Europe but they will catch up on you. I use the big busses rather than mini ones for the Same reason and fly BKk to Chaing Mai. I accept I am being inconsistent by riding motor bikes - probably the odds are even worse.

Yes Z909 I noticed the similarity of the speedos worn by the boy (he's rather a cutie !), and those shown in your avatar. I like sometimes to take boys to Dongtan gay beach in the afternoon and I love them to wear brief speedos, which more often than not involves me buying. Still not expensive from that beach ware show in the Jomtien Centre. Mind you also like the boys in jeans with no shirt, like the one shown in Firecats post 89, but jeans are nore expensive than speedos.

I agree with finally that very late noise is a minus factor at the Ambiance, otherwise I think it's a very excellent hotel for the gay guest. Why can some bars can make noise at 4am, but the others have to stop the music at 2am ?. When I checked out last October before the date I had specified in my reservation the desk clerk asked me why. His reaction told me that my action was not an isolated occurence. In Sunee I have stayed at the Don Plaza which I have found to be fine, and of course it's convenient if offing boys from there, and if you like twinks. Noise seems to cease in Sunee earlier than in Boystown.

Regarding the Ambiance Hotel where I have stayed several times. The minus factor of late night noise varies according to the position of the room. During my last stay I was troubled by noise from a karioki bar which went on till about 4am, but this did not seem to affect guests in other locations. If noise is likely to Be an issue asking for a "quiet room" would be a good idea. A gay hotel in a very quiet location would be the Samsuk where I am planning to stay in August. This has the asset of including free entrance to the sauna and a small pool. I like to spend a little time beside a pool during the day often with my "boyfriend du jour ", and i don't like this so much at a non gay hotel due to the stare factor.

Firecat - your trip reports are really wetting my appetite for my next visit to Pattaya commencing early August. I'm a confirmed butterfly during the early part of my trips too. Later I move away from 18-22 ages like those whose pictures you have posted and prefer boys with boyfriend qualifications. I've started to log onto GR and a few messages appear from a few I have known in the past. I usually reply and a short conversation ensues.

Very nice Firecat - hes a real cutie !.

I've never come across any anti-gay attitudes whilst in Pattaya, although I have hardly visited typical girlie beer bars or gogos. The only times were to be sociable with str friends. I have had stares from passengers on baht busses when I was accompanied by a young Thai boyfriend, very often in transit from Boystown or Sunee to Jomtien. I would certainly avoid any business displaying anti-gay notices. I have a problem with noisy hotels as at home I live in a quiet location. I have noticed that boys I have slept with do not to mind noise. I suppose this is because Thailand is a noisy country - music especially is played at maximum volume. I try and get a room shielded as much as possible.

I've never been robbed in a sauna or massage spa, but did once lose my wallet climbing about on the Temple of the Dawn. I lost a small amount of cash and a credit card, but had a spare card back at the hotel. I always take two cards to Thailand for this reason. At the sauna I take additional condoms and lube, to the ones supplied, as I've found I have more than one encounter in the cruising areas including abortive ones where penetration was refused after I had put on the condom. Carrying them when wandering about wearing just a towel is awkward. A small bag with a cord to attach to my wrist is a good idea.