Travellerdave

Another partial explanation of the good behavior of English fans in Qatar is that the trip there was rather expensive in terms of the airfare and accommodation. Generally more affluent people who could afford it, don’t cause trouble. Trouble at soccer events involving them has occurred in European Cities, which are cheap to travel. There was no trouble during the 2018 World Cup held in Russia. I think there they had a fear of being sent to Siberia !. However I don’t disagree that the lack of cheap booze was a major factor.

i had a short affair with an older guy who worked part time on reception in a bkk hotel where I stayed 12 years ago towards the end of my trip. He liked chatting to me, explaining that he needed to improve his English to get a better hotel job. Once when he was off duty I invited him to have a drink with me in the hotel bar, during which we talked about his life in Thailand mentioning that he used to be married but was now gay. He asked me about my life, work, and interests during which I told him I was also gay, which he said he suspected because he had not seen me with lady. A few drinks later he accepted my invitation to go to my room for sex and to sleep with me. He had a good body and we had a great time - not just that night but for the rest of my trip. But what made those days enjoyable more was the breadth of our wide ranging conversations. One day we went on the tourist train to Samut Songcran where he had worked before and could explain to me the Thai fishing industry. A totally better experience than I had had with young money boys. I did give him significant money and a leaving present of course. He did admit that I was not the first farang with whom he had such an experience.

I’ve no problem about walking BT to Sunee and return- must have done it more than 100 times since 2002. But sometimes after offing boys and returning I ran into objections when they demanded using a motor bike taxi, even saying they were tired after dancing in the gogo. I had to go along with that to avoid an hour or so of sulking. Sounds like I won’t have this difficulty during my next trip ie few offable boys available in Sunee

First time I went to koh larn was 2002 with a pal and two boys. Walked from the pier to Duen Beach (Monkey Beach) . 2 miles maybe. There was nobody and nothing there - took some booze and food from,7-11. Had lots of fun swimming out to the reef. Got taxi back for return to Pats cos I had cut my foot on the coral.

Reading these various experiences of fellow members about boys watching porn whilst in bed , I’m taken back to some years ago by something rather different. I was in a king bed with a very hot twink and was woken up in the middle of the night in the pitch darkness by noises (beeps, buzzes and clicks) coming from under the bed sheets, from which there was also a faint glow. I gradually came to and slid over to his side of the bed and whispered “what you do “ to which the reply was “play game”. . I was amused by this and asked him to show me. It was in the early days of smart phones and I did not possess one, only a basic mobile phone with few extras. He demonstrated the game and showed me how to play and for a while I forgot about sex in my efforts to master the skill. However I gradually focussed more on his delicious body and commenced sucking his cock whilst he gradually ceased play and put the phone aside and we commenced “normal service”. In the morning and over room service breakfast we Laughed about the experience and the game which I think was some sort of early version of Candy Crush. It was One of my boy “adventures” which remains in my memory bank and causes me to smile as I reminisce about times gone by.

I rather enjoy kissing boys in gay bars and “boyfriends” on the gay beach and of course in bed. But I wouldn’t do it, particularly French kissing, if the boy resisted in any way. Definitely not in public in non-gay places - you have to be conscious of your surroundings. I was once sat round the pool at the Zing resort where another farang was kissing and cuddling a boy which was rather unsettling for str couples present there.

I have had a few boys over the years watching porn on their phones whilst in bed with them. If it’s quality gay porn I’ve run it on my large iPad, and watched myself.

I have quite a few pictures of my Thai “boyfriends” stored on my iPad and home pc. Whilst some of them are what you could call “sexy”, ie for example in bed with me or wearing jocks, none of them are phonographic and I would not share them with anyone else or upload them to the internet. The majority are are just normal “tourist” type pictures eg in bars, beach, travelling etc. The early ones were taken on non-digital cameras, processed commercially and then scanned from the prints. Many happy memories.

Quite a saga pong2 ! i remember the first visit I made to Thailand in 2001. I took a mixture of USD And GBR cash -plus a wad of Amex USD travellers cheques. This was just before the internet took off as a source of information for travellers. I recall cashing the cheques in banks and being amazed at how much purchasing power I received. The rate was around 70 baht to £1. I returned home to the U.K. with a good proportion of the cheques which I used in USA subsequently for cashing and for direct settlement of hotel bills. i don’t suppose anyone still uses travellers cheques ?. Maybe they are not available anymore.

Yes mostly they just stroll around without actually taking a seat in the bars. There is nothing at the entrances to the Complex to indicate that it is predominantly a gay area. Probably they don’t feel confortable about being surrounded by us gays and our young boyfriends. There are usually a few str couples in the Complex hotels And I have sometimes chatted with them - one couple asked me about the gay scene in general. You hardly ever see str guys with their Thai girlfriends in the Complex

Agree Boy69 - I stopped going to BBB after it became dominated by screaming Chinese ladies. Better when it was patronised 100% by gay men.

During my stay at the Ambiance, the place as well as BT in general, was quiet being towards tte end of the Covid restrictions.. In fact at during the first couple of days I thought there were no other guests. I had one of their better rooms for a bargain price and I was happy with everything: aircon, cleaning, wifi etc etc. The tv did not seem to have any English channels but I was there on a boy orientated trip, not to watch tv . I stayed there many times up to 4 years ago when I moved to the Complex owing to the problem of late night noise from a karaoke bar, which isn’t there now. The staff were friendly and had time to chat and supplied extra towels when I had a short time boy during the day and one overnight. The restaurent was closed - maybe it’s open now.

I always carry a copy of the Id page of my passport whilst in Thailand, as I believe carrying the actual document risks losing it or having it stolen. Typically I’m wearing lightweight shorts and shirt without deep pockets in which paper deteriorates in hot tropical conditions. The passeport stays in my room safe together with other key items;- insurance details, 2nd debit card, flight details, drivers licence etc etc. I’ve only been asked to show my passport twice by the police twice in 20 years when in boy bars subject to raids. The copy was accepted on those occasions.

That’s a huge endorsement for East Suites Boy69. I’ve stayed in nearly all of the Complex hotels but not this one. I certainly like the sound of the jacuzzi suite and the thought of entertaining boys in it. Did you actually make use of the two bedrooms ?. In July I stayed at the Ambiance so I think I’m due luxurious accommodation next trip.

I’ve only been in Thailand (Pattaya) once during the Xmas/New Year high season and that was 12 years ago. The downsides of this period were high flight/hotel prices, but I don’t recall any shortage of boys. I think more arrive to meet the demand from increased numbers of affluent gay tourists as opposed to money conscious residents.

I too have no desire to go with ladyboys. Like you I am gay. They are all over in Pattaya so there is obviously a demand for their services. Some closely ressemble woman but others are just boys using make-up in female clothes.

I have met guys who go to Thailand to have sex exclusively with ladyboys and yet maintain that they themselves are not gay even they enjoy the same activities as us gays who like boys. I would say that if you suck cock you are certainly gay - but they don’t agree.

I can afford business class but my tough North U.K. upbringing has conditioned me to travel MAN > BKK economy, saving approximately £2000 / $2200. Yes it’s uncomfortable that way - small seats, queuing to use the toilets, no sleep with the constant Noise and adjacent passengers wanting to get past etc etc. But I used to run marathons 20 years ago and they were also similarly uncomfortable even painful but the satisfaction in reaching the finish was huge. It’s the same for me travelling economy where the satisfaction is reaching Bkk saving 2000 quid on the business fare.

Yes Max, every time I return home after several weeks in Pattaya indulging in risky gay sex, I worry that this time the odds on developing a sexual related disease will have caught up on me. I’ve indulged in unprotected anal sex on occasions there in the past 20 years and oral every time. The more I think about it, the more I cannot understand why I haven’t contracted an STD, but each time I go for a test it thankfully is negative. Perhaps I should quit whilst I am ahead.

Over the last 20 years of visiting Pattaya I have always enjoyed kissing gay Asian boys, both in bed and also in gay bars and on Dongtan beach. Mostly they will allow it including tongue kissing, although on occasions when I find reluctance, I do not persist as doing so would spoil the occasion. I can’t remember ever asking permission.

I made a trip to Pattaya during late June/early July which was right at the end of Covid restrictions, visiting Sunee (Winner boy bar) and Jomtien Complex, offing boys from both and also from internet sites ( Romeo and Grindr). The bars were very quiet but I anticipated that by now tourism, specifically gay tourism, would have recovered to “normal” levels, but that is not evidently the case. I think two factors are negatives at the moment, the price of airfares (checking Expedia I see that a return ticket U.K. - Bkk, late November / early December is around £1250, double pré-Covid. Also there has been a lot of publicity on U-tube about the floods in Thailand. The Complex is supported to a large degree by expats rather than tourists like myself, but they are more cost sensitive than the latter, particularly as regards drinks. So maybe the Complex, like the other 2 gay venues is doomed to fade away, as far as the farang trade is concerned anyway. I will have to decide whether to make the trip soon. - a friend asked me to accompany him to Spain so that is an option, but there are no Asian boys there !

I very much enjoy being rimmed in conjunction with having my balls licked. I try to make it clear to boys I’m about to off what my requirements are but later in bed I sometimes encounter reluctance from him to actually commence. In the bar with the language barrier I’m usually not convinced he understands what rimming entails and even when the boy has some English a vague reply of assent to my request does give me confidence that he will perform. However over the years I have been rimmed by a good proportion of money boys and during periods when I had longer term relationships I was able to “train” my “boyfriend” to accede. I’ve not had any sexual health problems from rimming or indeed from oral sex, but maybe I’ve been lucky as I think I was when I indulged in bareback anal sex when I first discovered Thailand.

I visit always visit Canterbury Tales bookshop during my Pattaya trips where there is a fantastic selection of used books by most popular authors. Good books are an essential item for my holidays there often reading them on the beach. I have chatted to several of the old expats sat outside. Interesting to hear about all their issues like accommodation and visas. They mostly are in some sort of relationship with a Thai woman and once I was asked if I was also. I had to admit that I was gay which did not seem to surprise them - Pattaya seems to accommodate all varieties of expats and long term visitors.

After starting holidaying in Thailand I realised that it was A whole different ball-game but I never complained about the greater expense after Spain. I’ve always found the boys worth every penny or baht and intend god-willing to be still returning into old age.

Prior to discovering Thailand in 2002 I spent quite a few holidays in gay favoured resorts in Spain and Greece, principally Playa del Ingles on the island of Gran Canaria. Then needless to say I was a lot younger and much better looking. I used to hit the gym hard for weeks before the trip. There was very little gay for pay involved and most time was spent on the gay beach and enjoying the nightlife. Plenty of sex yes but not essentially involving money. The nightlife was not priced much different to that in str bars and clubs but I always got though a fair bit of money.