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I'm talking about doing things like shopping/comparing prices, researching hotel booking sites, airfares, having multiple tabs/pages open at the same time to go between them, etc.... Because you were looking at them? You're supposed to shake , when you finish.... not more than 4 times because then you're jerking off .....was that why you were in disbelief?

You picked up on that 🤣

Indeed!

Laptop? I haven't owned a desktop in ages, cell phones and tablets are too awkward to do much...

Maybe is why I'm the bottom in bed ? I understand that's why a lot of corporate guys hire dominatrix , want to be controlled for a change 🤔

Fair enough.... the housekeepers, kitchen staff do the real "working" jobs.... reception and waiters get the brunt of the rudeness, I was the ringleader of the show and was accountable for all of them doing their jobs properly and that the hotel operated all year long at a profit. Most of my properties were 400-500 rooms, some with convention/meeting room space..... but my favorite was 113 room 5 year old hotel at DFW airport, so much for being a size queen 🤷‍♂️

Not as much as we think.

Yes, but both are true in my case 😆 Yet......

I can read the word “Zionists.” My question was how you identify them before deciding who gets kicked out. And the restaurant signs you applauded said “Israelis,” which you’ve acknowledged isn’t the same thing. This Economist piece illustrates my point: Israelis living abroad flying home to help vote Netanyahu out. Under the restaurant policy you applaud, they’d be turned away too. What exactly would that achieve? But yes, we’ve both made our points. Back to the original topic.....

Let’s be precise about the quote I objected to: “This is a completely legitimate topic of discussion and the sooner the Zionists are brought to heel, the better. Even better yet, just kick them all out.” My objection was to “brought to heel” and “just kick them all out.” Who exactly gets kicked out, and how do you decide who qualifies? Opposing a political ideology doesn’t make every proposed action against its supporters justified. And please stop treating me as though I need convincing about Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. I’ve opposed it since long before it became fashionable. This didn’t start with the current war. Since I watched Occupied Minds, featured by PBS FRONTLINE/World in 2005, in which Palestinian journalist Jamal Dajani and Israeli journalist David Michaelis return to their shared birthplace of Jerusalem and examine the occupation together. These issues go back decades even before I became aware of them. I am TOTALLY against Netanyahu and what he’s done. I consider him a criminal. Same goes for Trump and Putin. When someone offers “I was just following orders” as an excuse for mistreating people, my response has long been, “That’s what the Nazis said.” Following orders doesn’t erase personal responsibility. But sharing someone’s nationality doesn’t establish personal responsibility either. I have Jewish, Palestinian, Russian and American friends. They are individuals, not their governments. I’m also a huge Bernie Sanders supporter. He’s Jewish and has fiercely condemned Netanyahu’s government. His position was explicit: “Not another nickel for the Netanyahu government if its present policies continue.” I agree. Stop funding it. Apply pressure. Hold those responsible accountable. But you wrote: “Every time I walk past a restaurant where they announce that Israelis are not welcome it feels like there is still hope.” That sign says Israelis. Not Zionists, Netanyahu supporters or people implicated in crimes. You’ve explicitly acknowledged those aren’t all the same people. That is exactly why I object to the blanket ban. I accept your clarification about the American sanctions list. But showing that restrictions affecting innocent people are nothing new doesn’t establish that they’re justified. You’ve explained why you want action. I understand that anger. But what if the person being refused service agrees with you about Netanyahu? What have you accomplished by excluding them? We agree that Netanyahu deserves condemnation. Where we disagree is whether an Israeli stranger should have to answer for him. And as for Department_of_Agriculture, I called him a hater because of the repeated ugliness in his posts about Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, Israelis , etc... That’s the pattern I was addressing. You’re choosing to ignore it; I’m explaining why I called it out. That much contempt for so many different people is just ugly, and NOT LOVELY. this topic should be moved to the Political Forum it's just a boner killer......

You’ve written a lengthy response to an argument I haven’t made. I didn’t defend American sanctions, excuse Israel’s treatment of Palestinians or suggest Netanyahu acts alone. Posting a list of things my country has done doesn’t establish what I support. That’s rather the point: my nationality doesn’t tell you my politics, any more than an Israeli’s passport tells you theirs. If sanctions hurt innocent people, that deserves scrutiny too. “Other countries do it” doesn’t explain why it’s right. You ask whether Israel should face sanctions. Governments, officials, military suppliers and people responsible for atrocities should face consequences. But you keep moving between holding a state accountable and refusing an individual dinner because they’re Israeli, as though those are the same thing. And dismissing the classroom exercise because Palestinian children face real violence misses its purpose entirely. I wasn’t comparing my fourth-grade experience to their suffering. I was explaining a lesson about how easily people accept mistreating others once an entire group has been declared bad. You rightly describe dehumanization as a warning sign. So why object when I challenge the idea that nationality alone makes someone guilty? Holding Palestinians collectively responsible for Hamas is wrong. Holding Israelis collectively responsible for their government is wrong. The scale and consequences are vastly different, but the excuse, “they belong to that group, so they deserve it,” is precisely what I reject. You also move from “Zionists,” which you describe as a political ideology, to “Israelis,” a nationality. Those aren’t interchangeable. If someone behaves badly in Thailand, deal with that person’s behavior. A protest against some Israelis doesn’t establish the guilt of every Israeli tourist. Call that semantics if you like. Whether someone actually supports or participated in an atrocity, rather than simply sharing a nationality with those responsible, is a pretty substantial distinction. And since you acknowledge my criticism of Department_of_Agriculture goes beyond that one quote, read the other posts before dismissing it. I was addressing a repeated pattern, and I stand by what I wrote..... so much so, I didn't add one emoji..... until now 😏

Now for some Bali updates.....😁

Israel is hardly an innocent bystander here. Palestinians have endured decades of occupation, dispossession and discrimination. Condemning that is entirely justified. Netanyahu is wanted by the International Criminal Court for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. Hold him and those responsible accountable 🤷‍♂️ You say, “NEVER AGAIN,” and that we don’t protest enough. Protest against the mistreatment of Palestinians, absolutely. Demand accountability. But how does refusing an Israeli tourist dinner accomplish either? “Never again” should mean opposing persecution whoever the victims are. It doesn’t justify treating an entire nationality as guilty....☠️ How do you know that tourist supports Netanyahu? They could have spent months protesting against him. You see a restaurant banning Israelis and feel hopeful. I see people being refused service because of where they come from 🙄 Should all Americans be treated that way because of Trump’s actions too? Am I supposed to answer for everything he does because I have an American passport? 🤪 In fourth grade, we did a version of Jane Elliott’s “Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes” exercise, featured in the PBS documentary A Class Divided. One day, brown-eyed children were the favorites, given privileges and treated as though they could do no wrong. Blue-eyed children were restricted and treated as inferior. The next day, the roles were reversed.....You'll notice I dont shy away from saying I'm a bottom, in many places around the world, they are shamed because a man is supposed to be the TOP..... fuck that, I've never given into peer pressure or mob/herd mentality. The test shows how quickly children began looking down on classmates simply because the teacher had declared one group superior, and how the mistreatment affected their confidence and performance. Same children, different treatment, based on something that said absolutely nothing about their character..... crazy concept, no? That lesson has stayed with me for more than 50 years. Skin color, eye color, religion or birthplace doesn’t tell you whether someone is a decent person. Their actions do. And as for Department_of_Agriculture, you said yourself that you haven’t read the posts. Go read them. They’re all there. The comments about Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, Israelis and that massage worker weren’t one isolated remark. That repeated pattern is exactly what I was addressing, and I meant everything I wrote

Is that a new massage shop?

@NoGagSuckerSF Saw these on sale online and thought of you and maybe you'd like them 😁 https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-Hard-Shell-Knee-Pads/5015724013

I didn't want to touch that one.....OR the notes 😬

And some occasionally go marching ☺️

So what in total was the tip? I frequently get told I have a big cock in Thailand..... I tell them , it's all relative.....not so big in Brasil , then I show them a few pics from Brasil and their eyes almost pop out of their head😆

This should be a pinned post.... @TotallyOz ?

Common theme on this board, but I'm sure you managed somehow 😉

I'm trying to convince Reader to post again, giving the reason mentioned here....in the meantime he texted me this, since I asked for an update on the masaasge places since I'm fixing ( @BjornAgain a Texan expression for ya) to head to that side of the world. About Sun Massage on Silom Soi 6 (first shop on right as you enter from Silom rd.). It's my favorite in Silom because of the variety of nationalities represented (Lao, Vietnam, Myanmar and Thai). Unlike most other shops that tend to be single origin, Sun features an ASEAN approach. Many downright handsome guys of all types with the bodies to match. Rooms have massage tables and en suite shower. One hour 500 baht shop fee. In Saphan Kwai, you can count on frequent turnover as newbies arrive and some rotate home. The wealth of talent remains impressive. If you venture out to shops on Sutthisan road, you become aware your in a thickly settled neighborhood environment that I find fun to experience. Plenty of good food vendors and small eateries in welcoming atmosphere. The first you come to One Spa. It's a 24/7 operation on four floors. Rooms run from basic mattress on floor to VIP and some LT suites. Usually a half dozen or so guys hanging around. 450 baht shop fee for standard room. In addition to the well publicized shops that post regularly on LINE, there's an assortment of local Thai shops that function pretty much the same with all Thai staffs. I've sampled a few and found that you can have good results but recommend a bit more discretion. I believe the best way to proceed with these shops is look for a guy you like and don't be afraid to smile first. It it's returned, you're on your way to a new adventure. The first local shop I tried is on the short Soi leading to STARS massage. It on your right side and there always some cute guys outside. The second is on the same Soi where Loveboy is located. Actually there are two on right side and frequently guys are hanging around outside. I stumbled upon the first guy when I was headed to LB and returned his smile. At the end of that Soi you'll find 39 Underground Sauna. This is very popular with locals and there's no restrictions on clientele. Although I haven't used it, have read favorable reviews on forum of those who did. Just to right of sauna entrance is a coffee shop known as 39 Hornet. Operated by same owner as sauna, it serves up fine coffees and pastry. And if you venture upstairs you find yourself in a maze that kindled memories of Babylon's legendary Garden of Earthly Delights but minus the naked part. It's pitch black except when you go to third floor where it opens into a veranda of sorts facing rear of building. One last note. If I owe anything to my sauna success it's this: don't hesitate to make the first move. Otherwise you risk wasting precious time.

My number 6 key is broken on my laptop 🙄

I can go (pee) times a night 😄

Ditto, I've gone to 2 pueblos in Mexico with bf's over the years.....1 weekend was plenty, I told them the family can come visit us in the "Big City" where we have things like A/C , indoor toilets and floors. I grew up camping in scouts and Army at 17..... those days of roughing it are long gone😏

Yeah, and I'm a TOP again 🤪