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from my experience it may require some work and/ or bargaining but those rates are still achievable. Last year I had bar boy also freelancing on Grindr to laugh me off with plan 'no' when I suggested 1500 but still few minutes later message came 'where your hotel?" . Smart move as I gave him 1000 more at dismissal simply because I liked his performance a lot. ........ they do. They need to couple good looks with business acumen and as necessary condition they need to like us to some degree. I always recall Tawan boy called Boss from pre-covid time . When I asked him in the morning " did you get some sleep? " he answered matter-of-factly " no, but you don't pay me to sleep". that left me with only option ; to ask him ' are you coming tonight again ?"

tell me something I don't know

no wonder as this is princely sum fort massage in Cambodia. I had guy asking me 100$ for overnight and it was followed by quite a litany of apologies why he is so greedy. You must have fun seeing Cambodia from inside of family life but indeed you were kidnapped and while pleasant for sure, your vacation seems like being overtaken by their agenda. Your hosts are obviously well off so what you see is far removed from reality of still very poor country Cambodia is. Hope you managed to release your leash and do some sightseeing not to mention visit at least Space Hair or Toolbox bars. Watch your waistline with all that food they make you consume

because it was not. If he made his family living in some shack with no water and toilet in the woods because he couldn't afford anything better due to his love for new cars , that would be "stupid, unreasonable or weird".

too bad ferry from Pattaya is no longer running. It was 2 hours only

likely ransom was declined

all of them horny

Daddy , this is not Grinder , this is serious forum

On longer trip one can afford going days or perhaps weeks without sinful activities while on shorter trip we may consider it waste of time so spending per day is higher

That's too politically correct. We may understand their motives but if other people are doing something we consider stupid, unreasonable or weird, why stay silent ? One of my cousins recently commented that I should save some money instead of constantly travelling somewhere specially since I fully retired. With cold eye such comments makes sense but .... my response was " look who is saying that, guy who just bought Jeep Cherokee only to use it to go shopping and once a week to church plus occasional funeral" which was taken with full understanding that we are both stupid and enjoying life each in own way.

being low maintenance it's how I gather money to spend on boys

at end of day I don't blame them . with exception os bar stars most of them really need money NOW , much more than after tomorrow

I did not know Mr. Lehrer but this very quote made me missing him, God let Him rest in peace

I suspect that is a case with 98% of members of this forum

when I was returning from one of my trip border officer ( they are pretty nosy here ) asked me how , being pensioner I can afford travelling so often and that was my answer " I never had a car " , not exactly true in my case but he bought that explanation without blinking an eye

That's always the case of successful time together although on vacation sometimes we need to make hard choice - do something we travelled there for or , for sake of peace, compromise and look for something we both enjoy at expense of our own pleasure only. In Bangkok I can skip Grand Palace or Mahanakhon if that doesn't suit my companion but not nightly visit to some bar.

let him have it. With USA and China involved in talks things should quiet down soon.

those two ships so far did not sail off at all so he must wait patiently. If he gets Nobel Prize for that , I hope it won't be shared with Putin and Netanyahu,

good for both of you. 24000 is quite a sum. It's good to show a man a good time but even better if he will try to do the same. Hope that was your case. On margins of your comment I have one unrelated: it's consider common wisdom not to drag gogo boy to another go-go bar as he may not like an idea to remind him how he looks while on the stage. On my last trip month ago I had no less that three different boys who actually suggested they want to go to bar to see the show and based on reaction , enjoyed it

I adhere to this advice and what I noticed is that while compensation part seems to be adhered to, when comes to living arrangements , not quite , even if it was clearly settled. I always make disclaimer that if I bring another boy for that time I like to be left alone and undisturbed and room vacated until alarm is called off. Still had cases , I recall at least two, one of them quite recent , when it created offence and even triggered penalty from boy in form of sleeping dressed that night ( guest came during day).

reminds me two customers in my working days, both plumbers. One was accepting only big , substantial jobs and was mentally and financially prepared to wait for next opportunity. He wouldn't want to come just to install new faucet. Another one was opposite, wanted only fast and easy jobs gladly installing new toilet but forget about him to agree to change piping in whole building. First was doing better financially , another one had more of free time on his hands. Both were happy

I agree but as we see from quoted example of boy offering to take cut of 50% of his fee, there's a lot of room for negotiation.

if we genuinely like guy and feel good ii his company, I'd say why not ? Of course we need to looks for signs of boredom and complacency but so called quasi boyfriend experience can be quite pleasant if both sides are working on it. Boy hopping may bring new discoveries but also disappointments and misspent money. Ideal situation is to have stable of regulars to return to plus occasional, say every 2-4 days foray for new unknown. In any case of repeat we must be careful to avoid situation when boy is trying to take ownership of us by trying to modify our agenda of " I want go to Asiatique" or "I want eat Japanese food" type or starts to create additional financial requests. If we notice it , in my opinion and I'm not born yesterday is to react immediately either by voicing displeasure or cutting him off. sometimes it may be hard but when we avoid it , soon enough we will be reminded why it was mistake as new requests will arrive and smartphone will take precedence over our good time like in case of OP

I'm not keen on dining with guys who died , alive and kicking forum members are making much better company

that's close to ideal situation as we all know' man who dies rich, dies disgraced"