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horror movie to one is just comedy for other. That's schnitzel with rice and vegatebles in thick creamy curry sauce. Yummy !!! Next time we meet crossing Silom it on me for you nad your man but it must be the same man who was with you then

You 100% right but all I'm saying because I liked him and knowing now what I know now if he contacted me in future I still may be tempted. Sure thing I will not make first step but that doesn't mean any step.

to get you an idea why I sing such accolades to Furama Sathorn few pictures of my room, there including famous suitcase which was supposed to be gifted to CCP in Phnom Penh.

Day 9 K left at 8 after breakfast downstairs with promise to take him to MahaNakhon. We were there already but obviously he liked it and this trip I did not go there yet so why not? One day we ‘ll go. Then I went to met my farang friend again in the same place we met yesterday. We confirmed trip to train market tomorrow. Returning to hotel I packed my meagre belongings and moved to Furama Sathorn Xclusive hotel. That move was planned as safety valve after CCP asked me to move flights. I wanted to have escape route in case things won’t work. After discovering that hotel in Dec 2021 it’s my most favorite in BKK and even better value than Raya. Older place but room are big and breakfast included in price. In fact when cost of breakfast for two at Foodland is added to Baan Silom rate cost of staying at Furama Xclusive works out almost the same. It was short walk from one hotel to another and luckily my room was already available so I could move in just before noon and again they rewarded my loyalty by upgrading me one notch above room I booked. Goes without saying never problems with visitors there and nobody is rising brews seeing different companion every morning. In Decmeber 2021 hero of my trip was T from Sabaidee spa but somehow I did not see him after that trip, neither in May nor in October last year an somehow I felt nostalgic today so I Lined him and asked to come to work at 5 pm for reunion and after that fell asleep for good 2 hours. All those long times and sleepless nights are showing . Trek to Sabaidee for very rewarding massage session , too bad that his English is almost non existent and not much talk could be done using google translate as obviously we did not meet for smartphone session. Even if it was excellent and in great degree proper massage session I decided for one more. But first , feeling hungry I went to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for a dinner and was surprised how busy restaurant was – I took last table. Then to hotel to refresh and shave and my next step was Tawan but not for show. Another day K told me that after M left for 9-Teen, now Mas, resident twink is one who is giving massages and since I like him , thank you very much, I couldn’t deny myself a pleasure. I was bit surprised that their price was raised to 800 , it was only 500 last two trips. Session was great and we even had some massage indeed so despite price it was pure pleasure – that is what happens when you really like the guy. At end I was taken aback a bit when he asked for no less than 2000 tip but I paid gladly since as I said above, I like him. But at that price it may be once a trip pleasure. I think I’m pricing myself out of Tawan, don’t blame boys but myself. Never thought being stingy has merits but slowly I’m warming to an idea , at least there. I did not stay in bar, only told B I will off him later and paid off fee to secure it and went to soi 4 to Banana Club. I had a beer outside as I like one of their barkers , bought him a beer and slipped 100 baht into his jeans discretely using well rehearsed Vinapu Tuck. One day I must get acquainted with him closer. Even Her Majesty Mamasan Lucy came to say hallo and asked if I have a tip for her to an cheerful answer ‘ no’. Then another beer inside, I asked one of their guys to seat with me , bought him a drink and tipped 500 for a feel. Smooth like baby and endowed like porn pro so money well spent. After a good half an hour I sent him back to the stage knowing I won’t off him tonight and it was great move as he was called by some other customer right after -poor guy in audience was probably waiting impatiently if I off the boy or not. Boys in Banana are not generally my type but apart from guy sitting with me I spotted other 4 I could off, all twinks with hooliganish faces I so like. Who knows, one day I will test them one by one. It was past 11pm when after having so good time in Banana I returned to Tawan to pick up B. Of course as soon as I went inside few palms were outstretched and few undies lowered , all asking for tips but since today I changed religion to stingy , all were left empty handed and empty underweared. I start liking my new, Scrooge like, behavior there. I lie bar and boys there but as I said , I spoiled them and in process my experience there. Now time to reverse course. Advantage of B is not only his built- steely muscles with 0% fat but also distinction of being one without habit of outstretched palm. Dinner at Foodland , again I swear the same friendly waiter suggested he orders steak and today it was prime cut indeed so good value for my money and then quick moto rode to hotel for another mostly sleepless night.

several years ago I got expensive suitcase as a gift from employer on my 20 anniversary with them. Did not last that long, wheels and zippers did gave up. Lesson learned that it not worth to spent much on the luggage unless one travels only by own car and ever since I buy cheap suitcases . If they break at least I don't feel sorry. And broken ones still make great storage boxes in the basement

Day 8 When parting in the morning I upped his tip by savings on his meal last night and even pointed it to him. Hope word spreads that it pays not to be too glutenous. At 9 am met farang friend in café near Mahanakhon, we had talk till 11 and resolved to go to train market after tomorrow , agreed to meet at Wongwian Yai station in time for 10.40 train. Then I had mission as I got suspicion from combing Grindr that one on my best guy ever, certain M from Senso is working as hairdresser in one of shops in Rama IX Central. So jumped on MRT and soon was combing that sizable mall in search of hairdresser shops. Unfortunately did not spot him, perhaps too early , or his day off or whatever. Will try next time in Bangkok as I don’t give up on him easily. Being in area went to Ratchada train market but it was too early and shops were closed but walking there I found 10 baht coin so at least my efforts paid of. Next step was to have massage at new shop of 9-Teen in soi 6 with guy who was resident masseur in Tawan last year , now task taken by Mas , their resident twink. New shop is quite impressive, well designed and everything smells new. Word is that massage is proper , just like Prime around the corner without any sinister moves. Let’s say I decline comment on that , I liked my massage session only conclusion was bit unnerving since my guy wanted higher tip than I offered. I succumbed to request but it will be while before he will see me if at all. As much as I like Tawan and their boys , I built reputation there as handy money dispenser. I know it’s my fault but it starts hurting me so perhaps it’s time to switch that pain to guys and show them that greed is not good for their financial health. But that’s for future as that massage reminded me that this trip I did not go to Tawan yet so resolved to pay them a visit tonight. But first a dinner, this time in G”Bangkok in soi 4 . they have one fusion German -Thai dish in casserole I like so much. Don’t remember name of it but on the page where they list fusion servings that’s the one in the very bottom. Next step was my daily drink with P at Hot Male and after a while there I walked to Tawan. It was nice to be greeted by all those smiles and handshakes, less nice to fend off all those palms stretched for tips. Today my tips were reserved for performers in the show but yes , I bought drinks for 3 guys sitting with me including K and B whom I offed few times in the past. I was bit surprised , K’s cousin waitress in Happy Beer did not spy on me as he was not aware I’m in Bangkok. I always admire Thai discretion. Show as always was quite brave and very modern including not one but two special shows and usual JO competition so I dispensed 9 red notes for their efforts. K remembered that in Dec on his birthday I promised him to buy him whisky so I decided to off him tonight, invited him for a dinner in 7.5 stars and just before deadline bought him a bottle of wine as he asked for such substitution. And then to hotel for activities like knitting , stamp collection rearrangement and world peace discussions.

one day it will come, after all it works in may places including where I live so is not like they need to invent the wheel. On another hand here it took about 3 years to fully implement it so improvement won't be likely immediate but even first step will be welcomed, say Rabbit card accepted on ARL link to Swampy or on both SRT red lines.

# me too, after being stuck in traffic in taxis or busses for hour or more now if there's no MRT, SRT or BTS nearby I take taxi to nearest station only and go by transit from there even i way is circular. I only hope like millions of others that in this computer age somebody finally will come with integrated method of payment so one can go from airport to hotel without buying ticket 2 or 3 times. This wa said million times and still we are in the cave.

to get to heaven people can wait a bit longer, no? But on serious note , yes sometimes one may have bad luck of arriving at time when 4-5 big planes land one right after another. I could see it when arrived from Phnom Penh when realatvely quiet corridors all of the sudden started swelling from few corners. Departure procedure could be simplified to get away with all that picture and fingers scan taking. USA , Canada and I believe Mexico don't have any immigration on departure, one just checks-in, goes through security and is free to board outbound plane. It means if one checks in at home and has carry-on only , security is only step to take.

all I know we only know about them as much as they told us. The same works other way. I personally am not that critical and as reader pointed , I see young men who are trying to make living using assets they have i.e themselves and their good looks. some are quite uplifting like one of my semi-regulars , single father who use to proudly point 'I don't have girlfriend but i have a son" Other one , also mentioned often in my reports was orphaned my mother in his childhood ( my friend who also offed him overheard him mumbling to himself ' mom help me", quite moving ) and later father was killed by Thai police. Yet still managed to built a house in his native village, whatever it is he calls a house. Personally when I think about them I avoid generalizations. Not all are poor or coming from poor backround. I know about 4 who have a car. One has small business, other one owns a condo. few , judging but how they speak English have quite extensive education. By no means they are prevailing examples but they do exist. One who has steady job but paying only 10200 per month freely admits he goes with clients for easy money. Sleepless night bringing him 3000 it's almost 1/3 of his monthly take after all The same applies to us, their clients. Our motivations to engage in the world of paid sex half world from home are very different and sometimes not even clear to ourselves I suspect. Some like Asians, some like sex far from home, some like to avoid any commitments (old saying 'most expensive sex is free one). It will be sex addicts and those who treat sex as vacation adventure. And it will be those like me who fruitlessly search for dream guy who can be offed for hand holding session only. Such dream guys are existing but it seems heat of the moment always derails hand holding only part.

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Thank you, you , not me , have a good heart. I'm optimist and it's why I have 4 trip terms in mind. What comes out of it we will know no later than Dec 31. I'm ready to pack and go on very short notice. Whether it will materialize God only knows . Siren call from Phnom Penh may lure me in , lol

no , it was one with very old look. That one above usually stays away from me

few photos of VIP room at Jey Spa

Day 7 In the morning as usual I invited Sam for breakfast but he declined, feeling still his embraces I gave him 200 so he can buy himself something to eat on top of his LT fee. Rest of morning spent lazy walking in the area and catching up with e-mails and forum. I wanted to see guy in Jey Spa , one I saw in Sabaidee in Dec 2021 so contacted them by Line if he is available. Response was impressively immediate – picture and question ‘ this boy ?” . I asked about 3 pm, after presumably contacting guy in question Maii2 another fast response arrived, “ 1hr 950 in VIP room and tip 1500 “. I asked about 1.5 hr, my usual timeline. Again response immediate “ VIP room 1250 and tip 1800”. When I okayed they immediately sent location and picture but I responded I know where you are. Not my first time there. Not a cheapest place but I know them and did not expect anything else although I could shave 300 by asking for regular room . For reasons already explained I felt like treating myself though. So some light lunch in Foodland and BTs to Nana station from where I had leisurely 45 minutes stroll to Jey Spa in soi 43. Jey Spa doesn’t have a sign so is useful to have their address or contact them for location. To the left there are regular rooms and to the right with separate entrance, VIP ones where I belong today. There were few boys on duty and all presented themselves immediately but I disappointed them saying I’m already assigned. Soon my boy invited me to the room, luxury indeed, asked me to shower while he went to pick up presumably supplies and showered right after me. Goes without saying that procedure was clothing optional . massage was great , guy muscular and sweet at the same time. Too bad did not have much English but half way through I knew it’s not our last meeting this trip. I added 200 to his well deserved minimum tip and promised to see him soon. Happy, happy marched to BTS , then MRT to Lumpini station as we had dinner with Christian PFC in Lido in soi Sri Bumphen. Christian introduced place as Gaybutton most favorite Italian restaurant in Bangkok but let’s say it may be Gaybutton ‘s but certainly not mine. I found serving of my tortellini small but at big price. On another had apart from pizza at Madrid Tavern I’m not fan of Italian food anyways. We had a lot to talk about anyways and Christian gave me detailed description of logistics of getting to train market in Mae Klong since I resolved to go there one day of this trip. We parted ways at dark , I took motorsai to my hotel to refresh and shave before hitting bars. My boys are complaining about my apparently very coarse face hair so I make point of shaving before immersing in the night entertainment as one never knows. Drink with P at Hot Male beer bar and friendly chat with boys there. Since this trip I’m butterflying it was Moonlight from today’s rotation so I went there. Mamasan eyed me immediately and announced that while A , my muscle semi-god from there is absent he can bring him immediately and was somewhat puzzled that I resisted his proposal repeated numerous times. Even my usual ‘ I like girls’ did not seem to discourage him but my plan today was to take somebody new so I was chasing him away tirelessly. And I eyed # 28, new face to me and as I learned later new face to bar as he started only few days ago. Muscular with face on bit axe murderer side so as close to my ideal as they go. Motioned him from the scene and this time asked only if he goes with me without going into ST vs LT. He was bit hungry and I did not fill myself much at Lido so one of us suggested World Famous Foodland and off we went. I’m almost sure waiter suggested steak all the same like yesterday but he opted for something very modest and basic at less than 100 so first time in living memory my dish , you know what at 128 was more expensive than boy’s. In the room he did not waste time but took task to prove that my choice of guy was wise one. So we become quite active on the bat. So active that at one point I, exhausted, must fell asleep. Waked up in deep night in the darkened room but body beside was there. So he decided himself about staying LT . Great idea, so great that soon new round of gymnastics started. I start loving butterflying more and more.

Obviously you assessed situation better then me but I'm still , warts and all, happy I tried. another confirmation we are twin brothers, only from different sets of parents

that made me recalling my awkward moments with two different , well rehearsed guys few trips apart. Scenarios were identical, they gladly went with me but in the room started to behave strangely . First guy was brave , I asked him "what is wrong " and answer was clear cut " you did not brush your teeth" . Second time was easier, I recalled that situation from year or two before and run to the washroom. All went well after. Now whenever I have guy in the room I brush my teeth and rinse with Listerine BEFORE we even shower. ........... I agree with you about not deserving part, I'm not as much upset as offended for taking me that lightly. I have feeling I deserve better, at least some explanation or at minimum ' no, good bye ". But also for me whole thing is mystery I'm intrigued with and if I have chance to shed some light on it I will try .

I suspect if may be a case of my dealings with Handsome Cambodian, I forgave him his antics and ever since he is better and better, we met 3 times so there's some statistic sample to back my claim up.

It's obvious that few friends who were privy to whole affair from beginning and those who commented above in the thread were / are right. Failure of the whole affair attests to that. Everybody was unanimous "cut him off" or " at this point I'd not invest any more money in him" (after that strange change flight request ) But me being stupid , did not listen and engineered my own disappointment. You guys were right and I was wrong . But it was nice to have such dream and hope and it's why I still smile, specially in view rest of trip was rewarding, thank you very much. It will be small setback but I'd say , included in price. At this moment problem of second chance is very academic. Due to personal circumstances this year 2023 is BIG question mark for me. No, I'm not in trouble but life got in the way. Chances are that out of 4 planned times I wish I could travel to Thailand (May, July , Oct and Dec ) this year none will materialize. And truth is it's not even in my control. I understand very well advices quoted above and I don't have any plans to even try to contact my Cambodian Charming Prince again. But if he would, chances are , even knowing what I know now and rich in your advices and comments I will try again. Definitely I wouldn't even try to arrange for foreign trip again, that's sure thing. Not unless I'd spend at least few days and night with guy in question, not CCP but any guy. That lesson was absorbed. But I get some explanation I'd could buy or apologies I'd find sincere I may fall into that trap of meeting him again. May be for dinner, may be for overnight, one step at the time, watching my back, yes. I too am believer in giving 2nd or even 3rd chances, again repeat case of Tawan boy , my best and 2nd worst off ever 2 years apart. And very fresh case of Handsome Cambodian described above yesterday. CCP disappointed me , milked me of some money but it's not a case of Stockholm syndrom, I did not suffer any harm. May be I would but I was careful enough to steer myself into safe waters.

that would make sense and make things easy too

by January 2024 they should be able to iron it out. If you already booked , my guess will be you are lucky or airline will pay for you in due course

I agree , hope dies last.

I guess , at least for those arriving by air , 300 will be included in price of ticket

I have no doubt he realizes unless he assessed me as cheat and lost hope that I will pay him anything but that's highly unlikely in view that after all I send him some advance money, right ? All I know is that all money I had aside for him I spent on other guys including his bar friend and I'm happy I did. I also received his picture and I'm truly glad he looks much better than when we met at the airport. Perhpas whole experience worked like bucket of cold water for him. It would be similar to what I had in October when Handsome Cambodian taken to BKK for 4 days dumped me after 1 night over dispute related to excessive phone use forfeiting 12000 . Two weeks later when I saw him he admitted that realisation of his hotheadedness and loss created caused short depression and when I offed him , he was changed man indeed. In few days we will meet him again, ( report in due course ) and he was even more hot and charming. Does it mean there's hope for me for another try at CCP ? LOL

yes , he was exactly what I needed that night, friend with benefits. If I would be looking for companion to travel in the region , indeed Sam would be candidate # 1 as he made impression he is really interested in seeing places. despite misadventure with CCP I don't hold it against whole nation and indeed had few very rewarding meetings with Cambodians this trip including my last night in Phnom Penh.