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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
you are right but time was short so I decided to not adhere to a script but to catch another hunk ASAP. Not that it was big massage at MyHero but guy was big and his attributes enticing so money well spent -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
spoon already answered and I can agree with what he said. One doesn't fall in love because of plan, it just happens , the same like lighting out of blue sky. I go to Thailand to seek fun not true love and since my favorite guys are mostly straight and engaged or visibly busy on apps or with other clients it's easy to detect transactional nature of our relationship. I'm happy to take just memories with me without any additional luggage. -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
yes , I know but boy may look at it through different lenses, for them we all have abundance of money to throw around -
I try to visit them all every trip, not always possible. I believe in spreading business but wouldn't not blame those who focus on 1-2 bars only . I had one trip when I was on 13/14 mono diet with Tawan and it worked too. But if we don't bar hop we don't know other opportunities , often like in case above, boy whom we think is gone for good, turns out to be in different bar or massage venue. Yes , it can't be repeated too often, if we want guy badly we should table him right away as there are sharp eyed, fast thinking predator customers out there although my experience in advance booking say today for after tomorrow is somewhat mixed so catch what you see is my rule I try to live by.
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even better idea is to use opportunities we have now as memories are just that , memories . Nice to have them but memories of yesterday's meal are not filling our plate today. Today's meal may not be as tasty but it's what we need not to go hungry and bitter.
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 11 We had problem parting with each other in the morning, neither he was in rush to leave which I appreciate nor I was keen on being alone it seems , it was bordering on romantic that long good bye of ours. I promised I will off him once more before I go home but also warned I have other plans for today. He even extracted taxi money from me which is real rarity but I felt he deserves it , if only because that no rush attitude. Usual Foodland breakfast, I swear one of waitresses , veteran there smiled shyly when she saw me with different guy than just 2 days ago. Upon return to hotel they stopped me saying my room is being cleaned now so I used that forced break to survey Kessara hotel nearby in the historical wooden house. It had security guard outside and looked very upscale, I was wondering how other guests would react if I stay here few nights and was bringing different hunk night after night. Despite costs I may be tempted to try in the future, LOL Then I did planned – went to dentist as I had some job to do there. I’m always using Dr Smile on Silom at Patpong. I was lucky as they had space in half an hour even if I did not have appointment. 1.5 hr. of torture and I still left smiling – bill came to much less than I budgeted for leaving me quite a few baht for debauchery. Then a bit of touristy things, went to Wat Hualampong passing by recently closed BBB Inn, door were opened so I could enter inside to see that demolishing process already started. Lots of sweet memories from there but if Roman Empire could disappear, BBB Inn was not immune. Still sad. Whole block now is half abandoned and it’s matter of short time before walls will fall down. In Wat Halampong I noticed that live cows are gone unless they moved them to some obscure corner. From there I took deliberately shortcut to Surawong by soi Wat Hualampong to see Magic Touch by Tree. Easy to spot so went inside , immediately question was asked if I want men or women and it turned out for men to men massage they have other ‘office ‘ around the corner where I was promptly escorted and assigned therapist. Twink without much of English but quite adept in using google translator. Another weak massage with weekly Bahrain’s output of oil lavished on me. Guy himself was pleasant and quite a looker but whole exercise was less then thrilling and at end spoiled by him typing on the phone that he is not salaried , works for tips and his customers are giving him usually 2000- 3000 tip. Sure but not me, gave him 1000 , we both smiled, I chalked it mentally off to experience but I liked place itself, very well organized and appointed and chances are I will give them another chance , there was something I don’t know what that I liked about the place, certainly not oil bath though. In the afternoon after bit of rest in hotel I went again to Senso , again hoping M will be there. And again having goose bumps on approach, what the hell is with that place and Arena that they give me such feeling ? I feel like first timer in those two places and let me tell you it’s very nice feeling. M was there and even approached me but only to tell me that he is already reserved by guy sitting on the couch and finishing his beer. Third time and third not lucky as I really like the guy but I smiled which was easy as I was at dentist today and hoped next time it will work. In my earlier trips I would be upset but over years I learned that it’s best not to bet that our dream guy will be there when we have hots for him. But often we tell guys we will be back and never do so it’s kind of two way deception highway. But it would be nice to see somebody I have so much chemistry with. Rescue was at hand though , Jack , seen last week already and on the same level of skills , personality and body built . So off we went for 1.5 hr session with superb massage and even better masseur. I like how Senso guys are positioning themselves during massage so they do their job on my carcass and at the same time I can do some survey of their charms. Sure place is expensive but I rather have great session for 3000 than oil bath for half of that, but that’s me I guess. Of course it was nice to see Namu , now the boss there again. Whole experience of meeting few of my best massage guys of all times at the same time heated me quite a bit so I marched right to Sala Daeng with next mission – MY Hero in Sukhumvit soi 11. It was while since I was there last time. Place is shiny with upscale feeling , several guys behind the glass , all hunks in various stages of hunkiness and all trying to bring my attention to them. I was only customer at the time . I know , low season and only Wednesday but still it felt strange as I remember that place being very busy . I was really spoiled for a choice but settled on wide shouldered and tall guy, Kim. 1.5 hr session paid 1100 ( less that at Senso where it stands at 1490 ) and off we went to clean and modern room , he directed me to shower and disappeared for few minutes , than showered himself which was quite a spectacle to observe, well built, smooth , well equipped, you get it . He warned me that he is not a gay and went on with massage in true Hero fashion, fast , strong and short. For 1.5 hr session we were done in 15 minutes. But since I had proper massage today I did not mind hoping we can utilize saved time somehow and it worked. It was actually great pleasure to survey such a great body , even if it was already third great body today. I wanted him to be sandbag for me and he played along. 1900 tip well deserved not for what he did but for what he was. Not sure he enjoyed it but surely I did. On my way back to Silom civilization it was another hunk at BTS, very look alike Boonthoon from Tawan. I don’t think it was him although he seem to steer at me as much as I did at him but at last that had effect of prompting me to go to Tawan again, first time since day 1. I came just before show started. Last week I promised Dam #16 , tall , smooth and dark skinned very quiet guy that next time I will be in the bar I off him. He was nowhere to be seen but I asked mamas an if he works today and he went to get him from wherever he was hiding. In meantime Tiger spotted me but I told him he already was my choice on the first day and today belongs to his colleague. Request for tip, nice try was rudely dismissed reminding him he got his tip Sunday last week when I offed him. We both laughed. Waiting for Dam I noticed new body , #11. Well built but not body builder with very handsome face. Roy is his nick. He noticed my interest too and immediately approached me so I invited him for a drink telling him I’m taking somebody else today. Dam showed up so I had pleasure of two hunks , one on the right and one on the left. Not sure who , one of guys or mamasan suggested I tale both but I said that I take two guys only if one fucks another which is actually the truth, exception apply but rarely and not today. So idea was dropped but it was very pleasant to be squeezed between two such bodies at cost of 400 per drink each. Dam , usually very reserved was more active than usually so I guess low season bite him and he was happy to land off today, I learned later his first in 5 days. It felt very promising and feeling proven right quite soon. In meantime show was on , tipped two J/O show participants 100 each , gave Roy 300 for his time and letting me to place my hand here and there and invited Dam to get the hell out of here with me. It was good move to keep my promise to return and off as marching to hotel he seemed very happy and guy is usually very reserved so it was telling. In the room he was not reserved at all let me tell you , I offed him before but this time he was dynamite, wow. And not stupid either, when noticed I enjoy our time together like asked if he gets more if stays longer tomorrow. Ok I promised 1000 extra payable at 10 a.m. and this energized him even more. I really felt like I did good deed tonight and he did his part too. It was almost morning when we finally fell asleep. Great finish of day 11 , day when I had pleasure to be with no less than 4 great bodies, each one worth flying to BKK for. -
Adventures in Bangkok, Pattaya & Hanoi Aug - Sept 19
vinapu replied to alex303's topic in Gay Thailand
thank you for a great and entertaining report, I see now need to return to Vietnam after quite an absence- 75 replies
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 10 To catch up with what we missed due to that keycard misfortune it was only 10 am when we left our embraces and started our day and even that only because we wanted to say good bye to spoon leaving today / and pick up my umbrella left with him rainy evening yesterday /. So after desoiling we went to Raya to see spoon and pick up last news before he goes home, then returned to hotel to pack up as Z is leaving me today and I’m , what’s new ?, changing hotel. I left my suitcase on reception to pick her up later, Z took his and at his insistence we went to soi 4 to eat something since he wanted to try something new. There unexpectedly we were greeted by Art , my second night companion on his shift at Nakarat, he asked me to come for massage as today he is leaving for few days to see his parents, I said later as I must go to the airport, he said he will be there till 5 , I gave him 100 baht to buy something to eat , Z picked up something from street stall , I treated myself with some tacos, kind of expensive and not necessarily tasty but I was hungry. Z commented that he noticed boys are treating me with respect ( he met Oud yesterday and now Art ) which was ear pleasing for me but I treat them with respect, not to mention reward them rather fair so no wonder, right ? Then we went to airport , next free bus was in 1 hr so we sat down somewhere to have some talk over beer and as mentioned he is great conversationist . Then we noticed that it’s almost departure time and rushed up which made good bye rather hasty and we avoided any emotions other than Z saying ‘ O’my God” instead of “I miss you already or something equally teary. I don’t know about him but , yes, I missed him mightily as he has both personality and physical attributes not to mention proper attitude. I had 500 baht parting tip ready but in such haste did not manage to hand it over so went back to Bangkok guilt ridden. But life goes on and so does bus carrying Z away so I returned to Glitz , picked up my 8 kg of luggage and rolled it over to Baan Silom in soi 3 where by sheer coincidence I got the same room I was staying last time. I like that hotel as it both close and bit removed from the scene, rooms are big and so are washrooms. Only thing absent was kettle but such things are not derailing vinapu as I always carry metal cup and immense heater . Having tea at the ready is a must for me 25 hrs. a day , 8 day a week. As always in new room I washed whatever I had to wash and went to Nakarat to see Art as promised but unfortunately he was gone already even if it was not even close to 5. Bearer of that gloomy news was skinny twink on youngish side but at least he was pretty tall and cute so we went for 1 hr session of what was supposed to be massage but rather was kind of oil bath as he treated me with probably half day of Kuwait’s output. But he was nice looking and well attributed so I got some value for my money, tipped him my regular 1 hr. 1000 baht tip. Bit feeling down after Z left I went deeper to soi 4 which probably is without sense as I don’t like soi 4 but somehow I parked myself in Welcome Bar in front of Jupiter secretly hoping that mysterious guy I tipped yesterday in Balcony or Telephone, I never know which is which , will pass by but no. Instead I was entertained by one of their waiters, skinny buy witty Lao boy who was yakking non stop but it was quite entertaining and interesting . I laughed at his comment about Chinese being biggest tourist group in the soi : ‘ China big men but cock small ‘, not sure it’s true but he made impression he is in the field for quite a while. At 8 I made round though Silom , Patpong , Suriwong , Thaniya and around 9 I went to Moonlight. Bar was quite empty , perhaps all of 5-6 customers but buys were crowding scene anyways, among them A. Attention ggobkk and spoon!!! as soon as I entered at least 2 if not 3 mamasans immediately asked me ‘ where are your friends? “ So obviously we made some impression and no wonder as both did not leave empty handed. Yesterday atop of Maha Nakhon I told A next time he will see me in the bar I will be there for him and it was exactly it. Waved him over right away- such hunk is always in danger of being picked up by somebody just entering bar, ordered drink , told him to dress but warned I want to spend some time in the bar watching guys and in fact distributing 2 or 3 tips as well , just for a look. That prodded him to ask me to tip his cousin working there and I obliged, why not built some karma at expense of 100 baht ? 500 off fee paid and we went to eat something – it was my first meal not counting beer at airport and soi 4 since noon time breakfast. On our way I was stopped by bandanna boy who mentioned something about tip but I did not want to spoil him , but he took my stinginess with good humor. After dinner we went to Fresh Boys where show was already on , they had some problem with music and I felt sorry for performers in candle number who somehow carried on , music or not. Than it was real” special’ show and it looks those are making come back to the bar scene. One of bar boys did not pay any attention I’m already with the guy and was clearly indicating some adoration of me which could work as he was quite handsome and muscular but not tonight as I had real steely muscled guy beside. But of course another red note changed hands. It was enough if idleness that evening so finally A and me marched to the hotel where he proved his worth. Much more reserved than Z but still conversing freely with 1st class smooth body enforced with steel and concrete turned out very clingy as well. Sure , at one point he complained that he can’t sleep but it was dismissed by me that # me too and we both laughed. He has whole life to sleep but I have only 2 weeks of vacation to sample him was even more convincing. Day 10 was over with 8 consecutive long time, no rush in the morning, offs, no wonder was humming Thai national anthem when we kind of waked up. -
it makes sense as in old bar slowly but surely guys are becoming boring staple for many customers while in the new place they acquire novelty value. I suspect many customers are frequenting only few favorite places and are not familiar with offerings in other bars / it took me 9 trips to go to Tawan for a first time for example, I know veterans of the bar scene who never been to Moonlight, Screwboys or Jupiter /
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In rainy season I'm using 110% accurate umbrella app. I.e. I carry umbrella with me either in my day pack or my hand all the time. It works, spoon is my witness and beneficiary of that approach. Bangkok is pretty big and close to the sea and it's quite possible Silom will be under rain but Chatuchak or Swampy not or other way around. Z and me tested it when we arrived from Pattaya on sun, Sept 1. As far as Makkasan station it was dry but at Chong Nonsi , few km and 15 minutes away it was raining very heavily, I mean it.
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no, I'm Ok. just tested
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another nail in the coffin of that soi
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with such vantage point we should be able too bear plenty
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
you got all that right great night for us too !!! Z mentioned you many times so obviously he enjoyed conversation with you as well. To bad you were departing that night as I'm not that possessive and would let him to have coffee, perhaps even with cream cream with you if requested , Stay tuned as there will be more of those two. -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
I kind of suspect this may upset you, bad timing of departure I guess but at least thank you for finding time to meet with me and spoon evening before -
I know , it''s serious matter but I couldn't stop laughing imagining such DVD being shown instead some Christmas story on Dec 25th or linked to this forum
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 9 continued Boys were almost on the dot and we up we went, me for a 4th time this trip and not last by the way. Z was clearly chickening out seeing that glass over 314 m chasm but after much less drama than when he was buying shirt earlier today he made it. Of course photo taking festival started and by the way you can’t take photos while on the glass so somebody else need to do it for you. No selfies there. I never met Jimbillp before but soon enough I spotted gentleman who was kind of paying attention to our antics. I told him I will be wearing baseball hat with motive bit distinctive for Thailand so I guess we were easy to spot. So we introduced ourselves and it needs to be said , immediately hit it on, all five of us. We spent good 2 hours up there identifying known and unknown places from above. It was fascinating to see that such landmark as Wat Arun from up there it’s just little white spot on Chao Praya’s riverbank. Of course I was maneuvering to find moment to be close enough to A just to ask him if he would be interested in going with me one day. Confirmation was immediate and matter of factly , like he expected it. After all we shook hands and clicked our glasses in bar last evening , no? Obviously it was not scheduled for today as I had Z but I told him next time I’m in his bar ( likely tomorrow ) I’m coming for him. Signed and sealed. 5 p.m. may be best time to go to Maha Nakhon as one has chance of seeing Bangkok in both daylight and after dark with all the lights. But compared to morning it was much , much more crowded . You have been warned, lots of people has the same idea. Finally we felt hungry and went to Silom Plaza, that’s the one Arena is where we settled for one of Chinese restaurants there and had our dinner. This time I was careful not to touch any seafood, lesson learned. Next destination , drinks in soi 4, we settled for either Balcony or Telephone , I never know which is which but it was one of those two on the left side of the soi. What was amazing , even if we basically did not know each other and still whole evening we find enough subjects for never ceasing conversation and no , nothing about debaucheries. One of those moments when you meet somebody new and you feel you know him 125 years already. Beside us for a while was sitting alone over drink very handsome Thai , I could be wrong but I sensed he is MB and if I was alone certainly I’d chat him up but in those circumstances all I could do is to look at his handsome face from time to time. And when we decided to change scenery for Jupiter I slipped him 100 baht tip for his good look. He looked surprised and according to my companions , bit embarrassed so perhaps I was wrong and made faux pas but I did what I did and felt happy about it. Today was Monday and low season so Jupiter just before the show was no more than half full if that much but boys on the stage as always were handsome like hell. Mekhin was there and of course Oud veteran of at last 10 my offs when he was still Tawan guys pied me and shortly joined us for drink. Even better muscled than before so he must be taking his exercises seriously. At one point Jimbillp left us as he is flying home and we were stuck inside after the show for a while because of rain and I was only one with umbrella. Night was not over yet as when we passed by Banana well built barker there invited us for a special show going on right now and let me tell you he did not lie. We entered right to see grand finale . Then of course resident boys crowded the scene for last minute off chance. Mostly twinks there. One of our crowd commented about one of boys , bit older and not exactly good looking that he shouldn’t be on the stage , little knowing that he will receive my parting tip for simple reason - I offed him twice in the past , from Zeus / who remember that bar closed at Christmas 2014 / and with his friend from old Fresh boys for quite a spectacle they made for me. So lesson is , sometimes boys don’t have looks but have other attributes and staying power and all stand a chance. I know that report goes on and on and on and it’s not even over. We parted our ways around 1 am. Spoon and A went their ways and we went ours, Z bit drunk after all those drinks here and there felt also hungry so we ordered some street food in front of soi Tawan and only then we landed home. After such full day I felt sleepy more than amorous so soon wrapped Z around me if that’s at all possible I fell asleep. At one point on night I woke up next to nobody , Z was missing in action. Since our Pattaya agreement was that we are free to do what we want I should be not concerned but I was because of exception clause – we are supposed to sleep together. But I resigned to my fate understanding I will never understand today’s youth and fell asleep again. After while waked up , dark and still bed empty. That part I don’t like but again , what I can do? With sun I raised at 6.20, upset like hell and went to shower only to hear door opening and me name being called. He was back. At night he still wanted to eat something so went to the street but unwisely left his key card with receptionist. Upon return she was gone so he couldn’t open door leading from reception upstairs and was forced to sleep on the sofa there and also pass time on his phone. Lesson learned, never leave key with reception in a small hotel as you may get stuck. Certainly that wouldn’t happen in Amara or Pullman G and the like but in place with few rooms receptionist may expect quiet night and disappear somewhere to get a nap. So busy and exciting day 9 finished with long embrace, deserved kick in the ass and long embrace again. And yes, some "finally back together" fun. -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 9 After 2 busy nights we obviously needed some rest , not to mention fact that I found hard to unglue myself from Z’s sweet embraces. So breakfast trip to Foodland was almost at noon depriving me chance to get discounted set for 65 baht / available only 5.30 to 9 / and I was forced to fork out whooping 81 baht for the same. Suprisingly , Z opted for the same thing, American breakfast. Usually boys take some Asian dish for the first meal of the day but he wanted to be adventurous I guess. After that he wanted to visit some local market so we went to Silom Market past soi 6 and then we crossed Silom to another no-name I guess, but much bigger market there in soi 5. He wanted to buy some blouses for his mother and sisters and shirt for himself, easy task one could say but not when gay boy is shopping , even very manly looking one. So I was was treated to a spectacle of trying and deliberating over most minute details which normally would drive me crazy and upset mightily but today and in his company I was in such good mood I could withstand any torture so I just smiled. He was in good mood too, no doubt Sauna Mania visit helped, perhaps even I contributed 5.5 % to his pot of good mood and wanted to buy me a gift , shirt which I did not want. Catch 22 situation because I did not want to offend him either but fortunately there was no my size and he gave up idea. I’m well past stage of acquiring things I don’t need. When he spied shirt he liked it was even more entertaining trying multiple times , comparing to dozen of others, abusing mirror mightily and testing my patience even more. But when I started to feel homophobic he finally made decision to buy and took my advice to dress in it right away to get good feel of his new garment. Beside was underwear stand so I invited him to choose one, purchased and gifted it to him. No, it was not good heart being my motivation but pure self interest because I suggested our next step will be return to the room where he can actually try that briefs. To his credit , idea was approved with due enthusiasm and in 5 minutes we were there. We did not overlook fact that trying he is already almost undressed and utilized situation to have some romantic fun. Being product of 21 century he is on his phone most of time but to his credit , not much when we occupy bed together . But somehow he managed to discover that there’s message waiting him from one of his friends, read admirers who was about to leave Bangkok after his vacations and somehow discovered Z is here. So I suggested he will go to kiss his friend good bye as he was in hotel in our area and instructed him I’ll be waiting at 5 p.m. at entry of Maha Nakhon where I expected to meet Spoon and on the top Jimbillp as well . Spoon was there to announce that he invited A, his Moonlight trophy from last evening to come as well and informed me that A was inquiring if I will be there. Which immediately set me off even higher then Maha Nakhon top as I had my designs on A seeing him yesterday and knowing today it’s Spoon’s last day. It’s Christmas already ? I thought for a moment hearing that. to be continued as story of the day is long one so for better reading I divided it in two parts..... -
stop teasing us
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still probably faster than traffic on Bangkok streets
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not necessarily TiT, USA and Canada still have those old fashioned paper entry forms in use
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Thank you for clarification
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scrapping that card would be nice, not much of nuisance filing it but one needs to remember to have pen ready. Bigger problem is constant watch every time passport is pulled out so card will not be missing which happened once to me at one of hotels but card was handily found on the reception floor I understand missing one may lead to some substantial fine at departure. I still miss Thailand though, sigh
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
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specially boy under gay flag