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there are signs at the entry that soi will go on for another 6 years if I'm not mistaken. I believe ChristianPFC posted pictures in his blog

Day 8 No need to look for breakfast place as I had this included in the rate and it was served right in the lobby, regular stuff, eggs, toast , jam tea or coffee, sufficient as far as I see but shame on them - served on really dirty , long time ago white, tablecloth . How much it would take to wash it , dry and change , specially in the hotel of this size ? I wanted to check-in for my flight tomorrow and print boarding pass but my usual internet place in Silom was closed , it seems for good so I walked to MRT , took train to Lumpini, then motorsai for 20 baht to Malaysia hotel where in the lobby they have few computers connected to a printer. What was supposed to be few minutes , turned 2 hour session as pretty heavy storm with lots of rain arrived , locking me inside. So I could , among others , catch up with this forum’s posts. Then I felt hungry so went to their coffee shop for a lunch of , no prize for guessing , chicken with cashew nuts . All that rain cooled air considerably so I decided to walk to Babylon , if only to see where it is and how it looks from outside. Hard to believe and you have it here in writing- I never been there. Soi Nantha , around the corner was half immersed under water but with plastic Birkenstocks this was no problem. My curiosity satiated , I walked back. They must be doing good business as several motorsai drivers were waiting on street in front of Babylon but as I said , air was nice and through Satrorn, Sala Daeng and Thaniya I walked all way to my hotel. Then , after some refreshment I went for a walk to Lumpini park where I was supposed to meet with my friend who helped me with my limited funds problem. No questions asked, this is what friends are for . After circling park twice we went each own way, him to Sukhumvit where he stays and me back to my room but walking toward Silom Guardian Angel just passed by to implant an idea to go and see if by any chance Art returned from Issan to his work in Nakarat massage. So I took a bit circular way and last guy on the bench holding price card was not one other but familiar face and frame. He recognized me even faster than I did him and it took no words to climb stairs and order 1.5 hr massage for 650. After he mutilated me –strong and fast strokes , still dressed in singlet and shorts I expressed an idea to see a bit more of his flesh and he is muscular, hunk guy of very athletic frame. Surely as always he asked me ‘how much you give me? ‘ , ’same same before’ was the answer and a bit of fun started. And I mean it literally. And I blew it. Not long ago on this forum I dispensed an advice that if boy asks ‘where you stay’ that the time to offer visit in your room. But when he asked me “ where’s your hotel ? ” instead of following my own enlightened advice I , fixated on another Moonlight visit just answered without further probing. I did few stupid things this trip, forget my ATM card, booked two hotels for the same nights but that was by far most idiotic neglect. I had few fabulous encounters this short trip, Fiber, twice Nicky , Fluke , Oud, A, Kai but that 1 ½ hr at Nakarat was my best of them all. How I could be so stupid? I ‘m not sure he would even took my offer but I will never know if I did not ask. True to form, the same like in Jun, when on street somebody passing by seeing my happy face said ‘ happy, happy” and obviously happy I was. Than to Chula Besaj pharmacy on Rama 4 to buy some medicine which costs me there less than half of home price and I calculated that buying 2 year supply would save me enough for air fare. They were actually closing and place was dark but when I told them what I’m looking for, business sense prevailed, for few hundreds they wouldn’t re- open perhaps but for few thousand it was worth it . Then to soi Twilight where 7 seconds after me anddy happened to arrive so we decided to seat at Hot Male 2 on soi level , ordered out drinks and immediately two Cambodian cuties joined us. Very clingy and kissy but unfortunately I had other designs so all I could offer to one who joined me was drink and a tip. Particularly endearing was his plead “ I go with you, I like old men”, LOL . Time to die I guess. After while I paid my dues , tipped boy , good bye handshake with anddy and moved to Maxi’s where paulsf just arrived. Few recent news and another good bye and then crossed Suriwong to go to Moonlight for the last time. Show just started, few new numbers with new , very shapely legged performer playing flying angel on the wheel. No I did not watch show alone as Nicky spied me entering bar and joined me immediately. It did not take long before he asked me about going with me and only answer I could envision was ‘yes ‘ although I told him tip will not be as generous like week ago but he did not blink an eye. All models with exception of Tam were on the stage today and after their presentation I could have last glimpse of Fluke and #15 before dressed Nicky arrived and we were ready to go. Outside Sunny was sitting with his lady , I could not resist to see his smile again by forcing 100 baht on him ‘ thank you for visiting Moonlight was his good bye to me. No , we did not go to the room because Nicky suggested we go to another place , not as expensive so again motions from week ago were repeated, visiting gas station where I contributed to filling tank and then Thonglor and some quieter place where several Thai yuppies were having good time . Well certified by one of them having hearty vomit when I went to WC few minutes later. Complemented our waiter on his hairstyle , I like spiky hair and I swear he turned red a bit hearing that. We had some drinks and light food and good conversation greasing final 1500 or so bill. Again not necessary but very interesting as I don’t frequent such places so it was kind of refreshing novelty for me. After hour or so we returned to the hotel hand holding all the way. Very pleasant and quite hot , no rush , no fuss session, fitting end of my Moonlight shined short Thai trip. Warm and long good bye embrace and in 5 minutes he was back – forget his car keys, nice to give me another chance to hug such a hunk. And this is how day 8 , my last finished.

of which year, 2023 or 2027 ?

Hey , you can question my taste in men and everything else, that's no problem, I'm not short of self-esteem. As for competitor for your lads- don't be so sure, from time to time world see me with scandalously thin , 20 y.o. just for fun and to see how others have it.. As for gentlemanly behavior I'd not buy boy of somebody's lap unless he would be clearly looking for a rescue. It happened few times than boy sitting with customer came to me to shake hands and asked me if I take him. " you are sitting with guy already" " I don't like him because of ....." , then I agreed. We don't own boys sitting with us and if we really interested in them sometimes we need to made a securing move. It's why I was upset when Keow dumped me on day 5 but did not held it against him and gave him and myself chance next day. I encourage you and everybody to visit Moonlight, there are types for everybody, at least almost everybody. Floor models are mostly of excellent quality either. Then, after visit , comments, whatever they will be, gain more credibility. It's not the same to say ' I never go to Tawan because I don't like big boys" as opposite to " I went to Tawan and did not like it because I don't like big boys "

I did not try to convert anybody as obviously it's up to person to decide what he considers safer, to carry passport or to keep in in the safe but just explained why I prefer to carry mine

predicting is very hard , specially predicting the future if you tried to be nice it did not work quite way you intended. Old fools at least made that far, you apparently have still 20 years to go and with such bitter disposition it may not be happiest 20 years of your life

I carry mine, ,learned lesson from straight friend who was entertaining himself in soi Cowboy few years ago when police raided soi. He had his passport so was let go but farang without were herded to a police van and driven , one can safely assume , not to their respective hotels

don't worry , many straights would agree with that and be surprised what one guy can see in another . As long as you can live with the fact that I saw plenty to move me and executed my desire to see some up close at great expense we are OK. Gay means we like men but not necessarily all the same men. If you don't see anything in those models in means one thing for me - one less competitor to off them so all I can say is 'thank you for questioning my taste" lol

nothing wrong with having external help for show participants and it happens quite often - best example are B-Boys performing in both BBB and XBoys. When I visited ca. 10 days ago they had actually at least of dozen go-go, all reasonably good looking , none looked out of place. As for location, XBoys somehow manages to soldier on and it's only across the soi. But perhaps as spoon suggests, they gave themselves only so much time to get it rolling and when it did not work, they cut their losses and run away. I feel sorry for the boys / and that handsome mamasan /

very wise and summarizes whole debate nicely indeed

even Pattaya was not as bad but that fateful night with string of mishaps it was. Writing report I decided to include my true feelings at end of that day. in case of hotel it was cold analysis from distance of the time, after all how much time I really spent inside, very little and most of that time I'm sleeping or have better things to admire than how walls are painted. Yes, last two days in Bangkok did the trick of changing heart. It cost a little but it worked ! thank you, I'm not that extravagant as it seems. Some excesses like first off were budgeted and calculated for. I agree, sometimes we need to make our hair loose a bit, after all we are on vacations. And in great scheme of things we are not taking about buying car from upper shelf or an apartment with a view but some overpaid time with hunks made of dreams. In my much younger years when travelling I learned that lesson you quote ' you really want something , go for it", paying it off is better than living with regret. wise but often you have it because you did not spent and it you start spending , soon you don't have it. My attitude to vacations is 'if you don't have it, stay home" , many may not agree but idea of being on vacations and counting how many beers a day I can have is not particularly appealing to me. There are people who at every mention of price quotation jump in horror how expensive it is, how cheap it was in days past and how Pattaya is cheaper than Bangkok and in Pattaya herself how good value Sunee compared to Boyztown is. It it all true but it's not how I want to poison my days in Thailand, good enough I'm low maintenance at home.

Considering Bangkok size I'm sure that there's more sex happening in BKK than Pattaya, Whether all those people are using KY ?- no idea

perhaps they started too high with 360 alcoholic drinks and 260 soft drinks. At least I have good memories of handsome mamasan and long long time off.

no , KY for some reason is cheaper in Bangkok

much better than crappy copy in Paris, France

don't even try to make fun of me, LOL Scenario you painted is doable in my opinion but only if airfare available would one I paid for my June or Sept 2017 trip. At rate I paid recently , answer is 'no'. Plus I would need guarantee that M or Jack will be there and knowing how things are in Thailand , specially in view of my Pattaya foray , I wouldn't count on it, but still Art at Nakarat or one of Moonlight models could work as consolation. Thank you for suggestion.

you should be as happy as I was. Let us know how it went. I called it apology but it was rather apologetic acknowledgement that I probably did not like the club which was surprising to me and very nice of him although entirely unnecessary.

I'm sure you wanted to say 'Pattaya is cheaper " which is correct.

nobody wrestled me to pay that much , I did on my own free will. Nothing outrageous, very high and in a sense prohibitive indeed but most likely it reflects fast that those models are not necessarily in need to be offed as they are paid well by the bar and tips plus cuts from drinks are making for steady income. Even cheaper than going to Pattaya is staying at home LOL. But certainly bar needs to watch business as after while novelty of whole endeavor may rub off. On another hand it looks that drink prices in Bangkok went down a bit with 350 first drink at Moonlight and 200 only for a second. Sign at BBB in Boyztown Pattaya says ' 1 drink, 1 show only ' so it signals that nights of nursing drinks whole evening may be coming to an end. But yes , Sunee and Jomtien are still in 100-200 baht territory.

'municipal elections in Burkina Faso " is my speak for small, irrelevant but time filing talk. Sionce hes English was limited we both were spared that effort. You know the drill : " how long you in Bangkok, where you stay, what country you are from etc. " Schnitzel at Maxi's is almost as good as in Alt Heidelberg Pattaya and is served with very tasty and thick mushroom sauce. My standard fare in both places. Pork, I don't eat veal or as my friend says , 'I don't feast on children"

Day 7 Waking up alone – out of 6 nights so far this is third time I suffer such indignity . So it turned that I did not utilize my room at Zing at all other than storing my meager possessions but I kind of liked idea of flexibility two rooms at the same time in two different locations gave me. Specially the cost was not overwhelming and cheapest rooms turned out quite comfortable. For breakfast to one of restaurants on the Beach Road , nice breeze blowing into face but whatever I could have for 100 at Foodland cost me 200 for view and breeze. Then few steps to internet café in soi post office where I got PM from williewillie that Art, may favorite guy from BBB not seen for few months suddenly appeared at BigBoys last night and if I had phone he would alert me about that. Last straw to break my back in Pattaya this trip but what one can do? Collect pieces together, grin and carry on. Than off to Jomtien Complex, fast packing and at noon on the dot I left my room there, walked to bar near bus station to have a beer waiting for my 1 pm bus and at 2.50 pm I was back in Swampy . Train to city was very crowded, almost at capacity leaving airport so I guess quite a few flight must have arrived at the same time. This time my destination was Suriwongse hotel, right opposite of Moonlight. I never stay there overnight but used their short time rooms on ground level on few occasions in the past. Advantage is location in thick of the action , not only for Moonlight but soi Twilight being across the street and still location is in quiet and discreet corner. Very popular at one time , now shows it’s age sand room can use some renovation although washroom part was clearly recently renovated and shiny. No safety deposit box in the room but there are boxes on reception which can be rented for 600 baht / month according to sign. There’s free computer with internet in the lobby as well, breakfast was included and room was spacious enough and clean but lacking tea kettle which was feature all other hotels I stay this trip but I came prepared as I like my tea and always carry immense heater . At first I was not very impressed but after a while I realized I like it and not only because Moonlight is right there but also because location is convenient for other places yet quiet. Raya it is not but at 500 baht less it’s good value for money and chances are it was not my last time there. As always I did my walk around Patpong area , bought few necessities and close to 7 p.m. marched to soi Twilight right to Bangkok Massage where in absence of my regular Namu who went home I asked if Kai is there. Very muscular but with still baby faced guy , known to me from the past entertained me for next 90 minutes with strong and fast paced massage and some other suitable activities , 700 for the house and twice as much for him which made him very happy, ‘really, that’s for me?”. I quoted Oud , my favorite Jupiter boy ‘you happy , I happy” . Smiling I left the place to see paulsf and DivineMadman sitting across the soi in Maxi so I joined immediately. Not before long anddy joined us. Latest news exchanges, schnitzel dinner , some beer , very nice forum reunion indeed ! But as evening was progressing I felt some itching as I had designs for the evening. Of course in close neighborhood , namely Moonlight once more. I liked that adventure with Nicky week ago and was hoping to get acquainted with other models , either Fluke or Sunny, as Numazu says , money be damned. Three gentlemen wished me luck, we made arrangements to meet tomorrow and I sprinted to see what night will bring. Entered bar exactly when show was starting , found a seat , was immediately recognized by one of mamasans who helped me facilitate off with Nicky last time i.e. collected 50 or 100 baht tip then and was probably hoping for the same tonight. As soon as I settled who is rushing toward me, whole in smiles? Nicky himself. Another drink ordered , hands held, heaven is near . What I did not expect was apology as he noted that I probably did not like Japanese club we went to last Saturday but I told him truth, club , experience and food I liked , it was bill which I found excessive but told him not to worry because , which was truth again, I liked him which earned me warm embrace and one needs to see and even more important to feel the guy to understand that it was very pleasant moment indeed. When asked if he will go with me tonight I told him truth that probably not because I want to see somebody else he took it matter-of- factly without any fuss with only comment ‘ may be tomorrow?’ and did not even wait for an answer. Very polite and professional and very , very everything. As time for the models presentation was coming , he finished his drink , collected his 100 tip tucked in his undies and went to prepare himself for a show , his place immediately taken by mamas an standing nearby whom I asked to find if Fluke will be available and willing to go with me. Oiled with red note he left , not to be seen again for a good while but I was occupied with show and model presentation waiting patiently. Show at Moonlight is more revealing that Jupiter one and rigid manhoods are to be seen here and there. Apart from show on the stage I had one in front of me. Middle aged and quite handsome Chinese invited # 15 to seat with him and #15 is man of such good muscular look with manly face they only reason he is not part of model crew must be religious, LOL. It was clear they will go together as shortly he left to dress but not before I satiated myself with view of his broad shoulders and as I said , Chinese guy was good looking as well. Clearly my Guardian Angel rolled his sleeves today as finally mamasan arrived smiling with good news that Fluke will join me soon . After ¼ of eternity i.e few minutes he was right there , wai-ing me politely , I shook his hand , invited him to seat, drink was ordered and nirvana started . Just sitting in close proximity to such a hunk was worth 29 hours of travel, feeling firmly enforced when he placed his hand on my knee and I embraced him with my left arm and placed my right hand on his massive and steely forearm. Getting hot in here but is not my fault that he is very close to what my standard of excellent manframe is. Muscular but not overbuilt, veiny, bit hair here and there, man man. Lots of smiles but not so much of conversation due to his limited English but with municipal elections in Burkina Faso settled I could use some time of quiet admiration specially that my question ‘ are you going with me ? ‘ was understood and answered with unqualified YES immediately . “How much you want ? “ was met with shy smile and this is all I wanted to know. I couldn’t wait to leave but having good heart and using mamasan to translate I told him that if he has show I will wait for him because he is so handsome I don’t want take him from other patrons. It was good move as both seem to be pleased with what they heard and I was not BS at all although I was not entirely altruistic either. Imagine boost to my self –esteem to be seen sitting in company of such a specimen in a packed bar, full if envious eyes . So he left me for a while but now I was in mood I could wait for hours watching stage with go-gos , all very carefully selected and of great masculine looks. Fluke’s number was first in second show and soon after he came dressed so 1000 baht off fee paid along with bin content . It was quite a bit , off fee plus 3 drinks but expense was last of my mind as dream finally came true and I liked feeling of anticipation what’s next. I had my share of stars which turned out losing shine fast in the room. When we were leaving another mamas an came to Fluke telling him somebody is interested but he pointed at me, quite a contrast with goings 2 days ago at BBB. Trek to the hotel was extremely short and before I could whisper ’ thank you Guardian Angel” we were in the room. Finally ! No problem showering together , no problem with anything. Great look, great built everywhere and great attitude. And good upbringing. We showered together but I finished first , he was still soaking but when I left washroom he closed door, out of habit I guess. The same repeated when we were done and took shower again. Sure he likes girls better confirmed when asked but ‘boys like nit noy” he smilingly acknowledged. No attitude, no time watching ,no rush it look that those Moonlight models are keeping some standard because Nicky was the same and alizizou had identical impression Just by length of this story you can sense that it was night to remember. Of course I tried to convert it to long time but he declined , from translation on the phone I understood he has either job or something to do in the airport area at 9 in the morning so I resigned to my fate of sleeping in empty bed but warmed by such magnificent hunk. Substantially poorer but immensely happier I slept like a baby finishing day 7 sweetened by both Kai and Fluke. Who would have think that 2 days ago I was swearing never to return. Long live Thailand! Even now, week later I’m smiling typing that.

But I do as in such case it's not only me who is pissed off but also most likely some other boy who could get my business but he did not and likely went home empty handed ( I had an eye on ABomb guy sitting outside but went for known quality, better idea I thought ) while I was waiting in vain. Yes business is business but promise is promise, specially when made to known client with proven track record. Going for smoke just to announce that arrangement just made is null and void is another way of saying 'fuck you ' in my books. On short trip where time is very limited such manipulations hurt even more. I don't hold grudges but don't expect to be happy when guys are putting me in my place in such manner, after all I had my choices too. Take Oud on day 2 who was waiting for me till bar almost emptied just because I told him I will come for him that night and I did, God and ChristianPFC my witnesses.

it will be one of those life mysteries as I know him for years and idea of long time came from him. I had few good experiences with second chances and both guys were my previous encounters so why not ? No, they both deserve repeat but that whole debacle was mightily upsetting. As I said already , I'm there for good time , not to get even but on another hand there are other fish in the sea not to mention other sea / Bangkok/ which this time beat Pattaya big time after a few trips where she was clear winner.