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justifiable does not equal acceptable and this depends on what's on an offer. My experience at Dreamboys runs from awe when I considered all on display as offable ( to be exact with one exception, but he was offed on my eyes right away ) to utter disappointment when I couldn't see anybody to give him my customary 100 baht departing tip. One of my best boys ever , Yo was from there and my worst by far was from there as well. All cases recorded here in my trip reports. So for my eyes there's not much consistency but creating plenty of curiosity making bar still worthwhile to visit and , sigh, to pay up

try to tell that to owner of Dreamboys, long time leader in highest prices in the soi and still packing bar night after night. Often what seems stupid to outsiders makes sense to insiders. that's correct but apps are as much substitution for bar experience as shopping on-line and waiting for delivery is substitution for actually strolling through the mall or market. End result may be the same but how to get there depends on what we like more, ogling two dimensional boys on the screen or three dimensional in the flesh, warts and all

as much as I agree with that, in my opinion what is important for boys is here and now and very few think long term , even in respect of the same client. I don't blame them as they must hear broken promises all the time. I can recall few cases when we parted ways with me indicated clearly that I was not happy with this or that and yet they tried to secure another off at earliest opportunity, sometimes next night. I guess our way of thinking is not necessarily theirs and I'm taking it for the face value.

I'm not surprised, for poor boy splurge on expensive one may seem as waste of money. I realized it once when invited semi-regular boy to a bit flashy Japanese restaurant / it was Christmas Eve /, he did not seem comfortable and I thought it was food he did not like. Only later in hotel when asked he opened up and told me that I should not be wasting so much money. I got what he meant immediately as it was not even that expensive .

I'd say 500 baht ! Fuck !!!

I'd rather shower with him

at least something special for special drink price

yes, when I arrived in Dec I had massage there at 3 a.m. for massage there I can recommend Tao , Wat Po trained and it shows

not sure what controversy would be as we both seem to support your point of view

Ever since visiting girl in Xboys soi Twilight complemented me on my choice of boy sitting with me I don't mind girls in bars . after all those bars are boy bars , not gay bars so let them have is as long as they behave

clearly they milked him off , one can only hope that he tipped boy property , not assuming that 800 is all inclusive. One of our members / 1 mo Russian ? / while ago reported similar attempt to milk him for higher off fee at BBB so new visitors beware and ask before you get hot and they see it

you got it right, I even saw girls picking up their boys after end of shift in the both bar and massages. One of hunks at now defunct FanClub massage on Convent when asked about long time off possibility told me outright prohibitive price claiming that this is what his wife expects to see when he is absent for the night, In retrospect I think now I should pay then , LOL work like any other and certainly less dusty than construction job. You may be right , I even had case when boy forced me to march hand-in-hand all the way from Screwboys to Take-a-Nap. On another hand as reported in my Jun 2016 report one of Tawan boys asked me to go separately to Raya so he is not seen walking with that illegitimate son of Hunchback of Notre Dame , me. I saw his point as walking on opposite side of Suriwong I saw he was stopped few times by various acquaintances and it was both nights in row. By the way I personally never heard term ' money boy ' used by my companions there to describe themselves or other boys for that matter. Closest I have heard was " I know I work in the bar"

keep cock , I will take a boy

just keep in mind that you may find boy of your dreams in bar with expensive drinks , boring show , noisy music and ugly , pushy mamasans and you may have poor massage in a spiffy venue with friendly mamasans and best looking boys. DivineMadman and ChristianPFC did great jobs but we must do our own groundwork to find those gates to heaven.

I overlooked that firecat's statement at first reading , thank you for pointing it out and that's the bottom line. I'd not be as extremist as latintopxxx, sure it's our pleasure we are hiring boy for at the first place but making one or two steps toward making him feeling good as well ensures pleasant encounter , particularly important if we have long time off. Otherwise we are risking having sex with something resembling a doll from the sex shop, only warmer than with somebody smiling at us at his own will , even if only thinking about prospective tip

That the consolation !!!

Happy New Year I like metersbonwe briefs

I think you should tip Kyaw a bit , just to keep with Christmas spirit. Tour could be expensive but likely he did not get much out of 200$ you paid. Glad that even in moment of passion you did not forget yourself and remembered about playing it safe. Certainly your Christmas Day of 2016 was one to remember for long time.

If Agoda doesn't show room available at your dates check other sites - hotels.com, booking.com , expedia etc. or hotel's own website. Happened to me when preparing for December trip to Siem Reap, my hotel of choice had different kinds of rooms available on Agoda and Expedia and only Expedia had room I was looking for.

lots of good news are coming recently about Fresh Boys and I can confirm that I had good time there and with their boys in December

love your article on Siem Reap

they can be called ' ladies in need"

better than you expected or worse ?

I think this non smiling is their policy, boys are not supposed to contact client, rather wait for signal from him. I observed wide smiles as soon as they were down to audience. As for those penalties, I personally don't think they are unreasonable. I know reputable companies which have no hire back policies.

welcome to the forum and don't forget to post your trip impressions here.