vinapu

no harm done

reading your day 4 as soon as you mentioned mango shake I thought ouch ! Sentence or two later I felt like a prophet. Not to much fun on some of your days but at least you know how paradise looks / and feels / like. Coming trip you will be old hands, stick to beer for the first week, leave shakes for later when you body gets adjusted to local flora.

yes

if you like guy, two tops may have a lot of fun together with a little of creativity, no reason to expect session will be knitting and watching TV only.

those questions guys are asking are their way of keeping conversation going , not really because they are that curious although some answers my reveal something precious to them , for example if you tell them it's your first time in Thailand they may see you as easy prey for higher tip because you don't know rates but at the same time it's warning signal for them that you don't know rates and may be unwillingly too stingy. I never thought about this but was told by a guy that some new arrivals don't know the rates and are tipping too low. Revelation of hotel you are staying may , in boy's eyes , reflect size of you wallet. You give tip to boy when you are sending him away, this is compensation for losing earning potential when he was locked with you. Sometimes I know for sure I will not be offing and take guy to sit just to have somebody warm beside, in such case I tell them right away so they know they can go back to the stage whenever they want. If you like boy but are not offing him tonight, heed hank's advice above and tip him more generously to stay good in his books for next time but don't over do it as they may label you easy prey and next time you may have more admirers you can handle, each one with palm stretched out for more. Happens very rarely but it does and it may be annoying. Don't avoid answering their questions but feel free to embellish the truth if you think they are too nosy. They are not but their English is limited and so is scope of conversation.

sent you PM , hope it reaches you when you wake up, otherwise let me know here ( apologies for abusing this thread )

always and any boy , mamasans are know for having their favorites and may be economizing with the truth to steer us toward their preferable guys.

I'm green with envy

still 95 % if not more / happy end with travelling companion like wife not included in HE counts you mentioned above /

I wish I had this kind of problem coming

+1, although I'd stay in Silom area , off a guy / or girl if person in question is heretic / and take taxi after breakfast , 1 hr , 300-350 baht or even better , MRT to Hualampong and train from there -1 hr , 5 baht

let us wait until rumors of closing soi Twilight materialize before we start with other sois. I have it on good authority that all Patpong 1 will be re-paved with new asphalt in second week of Oct 2028 / two thousand twenty eight /

I wouldn't mind

that's the good illustration to advice of not planning trip with hope to see somebody particular, guys are no longer in business , absent for vacations, sick, visiting parents , travelling with client, sitting with somebody in the bar obviously happy and not paying any attention to our presence or they don't seem so attractive like in the first place. And from boy's point of view , it exactly the same, they don't wait for us to return because they know it may or may not happen

nothing rude, call boy over( preferred for me) or ask mamasan to call him for you , buy him a drink , have small talk and then decide to off him or send him back with small tip 100-200 for his time. It happens all the time and boys are used to it, some even may collect more from those small tips on good night than short time tip. If you see there's no chemistry , cut your loses and send guy back, pity off doesn't make sense for either one. The same if you like boy but you sense that he is somewhat reluctant, doesn't engage you , looks at the stage , not at you , sits stiff etc. Sure sign he is not keen - chalk it off to experience and start looking for a next prey. As for ' get a feel" , in some bars you may take it literally and check the goods , in other it may be out of bounds so don't be too forthcoming until you get a feel of the place so to speak.

Yes , in Jupiter it's easy to fall in the background with all that hunks but as far as I see there's easy way to come to the light - flashing smile like above as smiles seem to be tightly controlled in that bar. He look great on those pictures IMNSHO

nothing wrong with him and his face other than he is wearing a cap which i find unsexy

Where? in San Diego, CA? It can't be!

quite a few massage guys have those callouses from working out and I find them endearing . Not only because owing to exercising boys have fine musculature but also massage by coarse hands feels stronger and more invigorating. In fact I very often check and complement their calloused hands. Massage is not cat caressing but serious business before fun starts.

me and unromantic, where's water !!!! ?

sure , like headache

Judging by the fact that all boys I ever dealt with in Thailand knew what 'long time ' means, my educated guess will be that 'long time' in Thai is, well , " long time"

and that says something

I should be fired from this forum, each trip I go to Jupiter at least once and I don't recall him at all. That's testimony that their mamasans are quite discreet with offer of help leaving me mostly alone.

still we can fairly assume that much more people DON'T speak English than do, "thank you ' , ' good morning', ' give me one dollar' and of course ' o fuck" are not attributes of spoken English even to a smallest degree