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thank you for a good laugh, somehow I imagined you saying " stop yakking , keep fucking" LOL

I don't think he ever posts here, in my 3 years I don't recall even once anybody using phrases ' like a pony ' or ' I use him for my pleasure'

sure, only kids are making stupid and uninformed decisions. We adults always know what it's best and can only wonder about that insert in Lord's Prayer 'and do not lead us into temptation" possibly in at least some hotels as well - in June on two occasions at Raya lady came to tidy of room when I was inside and left door wide open each time

I never had waiting for luggage problem in Bangkok but elsewhere my personal record is 4 hours waiting after 6.50 hrs. flight owing to bad luck - flight arrived just past midnight and at midnight some type of employment action started leaving manager only to unload jets. But at least we were kept updated of what to expect.

his jealous co-workers

I stay few times in Le Cafe, last in Dec 2015 and then in July this year in The Ambiance, no issues with either one , room size similar , bathroom more spacious in Ambiance, no issues with noise. Le Cafe was cheaper but breakfast more expensive , in fact in Ambiance had it included in the rate, special for low season I guess. One can have cheap breakfast in the Boat Bakery across the Second Road if cost is an issue. While removing water is as z909 said cheap move , complaining about it is pointless as now we have both 7/11 and Family Mart flanking soi 3 from Second Road side not to mention that I'm of firm believing that only animals are drinking water. But I understand kettle concern as I like to make my own tea in the room and ALWAYS carry immense heater , tea and sugar with me. Room in Ambiance had kettle though. Basic toiletries and working room safe provided by both so if you ask me to pick up one I'd say doesn't matter , you will be happy in both , I'm bit tilted toward Le Cafe since is bit cheaper. A for Trip Adviser reviews I tend to dismiss them completely trusting forums and Lonely Planet better. In hotel reviews on TA and booking sites lots of people are complaining about issues like water not wet enough, poor view from their 20 $ rooms and so on. Yes , whenever I will land in Pattaya again I will try Copa just for sake of comparing all three so if you will be there please let us know if they really give discount on massages to hotel guests as some masseurs there are very attractive indeed, getting hot in here

that would be mid-sixties, some may find that idea attractive one - it was that time when worker in American car industry needed to work least number of hours to purchase a car he was toiling on.

that's not unusual and not only among gays, it seems human reasoning is meandering around issues at will. Years ago we had local election with one of candidates campaigning openly on a platform of cutting welfare payments by 40%, he won , as it turned out, helped by great percentage of social assistance recipients voting for him.. Most racist public rant I ever heard was by black man from Africa directed at blacks from Caribbean, when I tried to calm him down / he was my co-worker and we were in crowded bus / he told me because he is black he can say whatever he wants about black people. With Islam and Catholic church firm stance against gay rights there are members here fasting during Ramadan and attending church every Sunday and so on and on and on

look at bright side, next year is only 5 months away

I said this before and repeat again, stay away from staff of the hotel you are staying even if he makes signals. You may have fun and he may have fun but there's great danger such a liaison may put his employment in jeopardy. And by the way, nothing wrong with topics being derailed, forum is not business meeting , rather is like conversation in social setting starting with accolades of how good meal is and ending agreeing that our bosses are really stupid

for us, listeners , it sounds promising I'm sad your story in winding up but I know you are cooking another trip soon

and this was definitely a case of boy I bought that cheap fake watch for, my idea , my pleasure and fact that he was happy too it was just by-product Numazu, we are yaking about all those gifts but we did not forget it is your thread , we are just using time waiting for a next installment

with such a splurge , if you are not nice who the hell is? Expensive tutorials of lesson "why one should shop at Siam Paragon alone" I can only hope boy was worth of such a expenditure but if it was me I still would say flat 'no", hell with face and if he was really worth such a gift I'd give him money later on since I believe spending 7000 on a boy is Ok but spending 7000 on a jeans for a boy is way tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much.

on Friday night just past midnight it may be tough to drive into soi but since it just steps from Second Road I'm sure driver will stop there at mouth of soi and for consideration of extra 100 baht will be happy to carry your luggage to Le Cafe, whole 20 or so meters

wishing you a speedy recovery, boys at Bonny will miss you I'm sure

I learned that lesson zillions years ago as a kid . My parents weren't paupers but not affluent either. Quite well off relative from abroad visited us and since she did not bring any gifts with her she lavished on us locally bought goods, God bless her memory all of them were very welcomed and practical. But then I overheard conversation of my parents with my Mom saying 'if she gave me 1/3 of money she spent I'd buy the same and she was saving the rest" . I couldn't comprehend what this was all about as a kid, but remembered that and still remember that lesson. It's why I always advocate monetary gifts . less glamorous but always useful.

thank you and good luck with your vacation puzzles. In meantime follow the forum as there's constant stream of useful information flowing here. Don't be shy to ask since things are changing all the time. From original responses you got Om Yim changed name and now is hostel , no reports if it's still gay friendly so you may cross it out

but not necessary fucking bell boy or receptionist from own hotel is either. I'd make an exception for BBB Inn staff for obvious reason

enjoy your flight

1. Congratulations, I always bust my budget, not by much but I do and never regretted it so far 2. Some are saying that no sex is more expensive that free sex so watch out. 3. you are bringing valid point. Those boys mostly don't have many reason boost their self esteem so perhaps at times we should splurge on them just to get this one more smile. 4. Keep in mind that reporting may increase their traffic too. That's my reasoning why I use names and/or numbers in my reports. And it seem to be working although at times I get PM asking where I had eyes offing this or that boy, LOL 5. I find it's easy to smile at every recollection of vacations there and only cynical thing I can think of is fact that we are going back home leaving boys there to their fate sometimes never to see them again. 14 year later I still miss Pom from Aqua spa and hope he is doing well wherever he is and still looking good

People of limited means often realize that poor people can't afford buying cheap things / cheap in sense of workmanship, not necessarily a price / hence their shopping skills. Another point for giving them money instead dragging them for shopping trip although sometimes it may be justified if we see he wears shabby shoes or clothes and we suspect that if we give him money it may be spent on something else or sent to mama. Even then I'd ask him how much new shoes will cost on the market and give him money , perhaps 200-300 more and tell him I like to see new shoes when I come for a massage or off him on Friday. Of course you are correct about chains - we are paying more for a name not quality which may be much better but not necessarily so.

I personally would not have a problem of telling him it's just too expensive but I realize it's it not always that easy and some nice people may have problem of saying no. This is where my second solution comes handy - I almost never go shopping with boy or in fact with anybody anywhere. In my 13 trips grand total shopping trips with boy is THREE. Even this come with restrictions 1. shopping for clothing at MBK - boy was told up front that my budget for him is 1000 2. targeted shopping for some kind of training belt, boy asked if I can buy one for him, I asked how much it may cost , price was approved but belt not found so money went to buy some muscle building supplements, wasting money if you ask me but promise is promise 3.on Christmas Eve walking with boy through Patpong noticed that he looks longingly for fake watches so i bought him one for 500 to his and mine delight, worked only 3 months as I learned later. My advice is , if we want spend money on the boy - increase his tip. If we buy him expensive stuff or treat him to a expensive dinners as somebody above sensible noticed - if fact we are spending this money on ourselves. I don't mean to offend anybody and my apologies if it sounded harsh but we want him to look good or have a company for a dinner we fancy. If you buying him something instead of paying for it at cash register slip him cash and make him going there to give him this short bust of self esteem. I do this often at restaurants and like their face expression when waiter brings me a check and I push it over to a boy. if he knows value of things expensive is expensive. Actually are really customers lavishing gifts on a boys? Just asking , but definitely I'm not only asshole in a crowd, who as mentioned above almost never buys them anything with substantial price tag i.e more than 100 baht / one hundred /. But I feed them before and after off and this is for selfish reason - if boy won't be hungry , lesser chance he will rush things to go home / read: to eat something/, in the morning I just like to have dining company , for some reason not that crucial in the evening or during day.

based on your narrative above I need to say one thing - DTG is very decent guy.

enough to mention Sukhumvit soi 11

I like your way of thinking and in fact practice what I like. Vacation for me is not a time for penny pinching, we have whole year for that. Of course it doesn't make sense to throw money around senselessly but I believe one on vacation should splurge on things he likes , whatever it is. It's why if I can't finance it , I stay home until funds are gathered i.e. debts from previous trip are paid.