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you may not be far from truth, generally my days and nights while in LOS are spent on the move and apart from other activities I like wrestling with my boys. Try to touch the ass of the straight boy-fight guaranteed and winner unknown

while it may make sense from bar's point of view, they need performers for the show, those amounts are extortionate for Pattaya specially where 1500 may land long time off of boy in the same soi. I wish them good luck with those fees. I still consider BBB best bar in whole Thailand but while can envision paying 2 times going rate for a boy's tip, can't see paying that much just for a off fee. But no doubt it will be takers

not all, very thought about going there makes me tired , LOL

welcome to the forum and while I don't think we trashed him that badly, good came out of it because you were compelled to defend your friend. As mentioned few posts above , our statistic samples are small and all recommendations as well as warnings need to be taken with grain of salt. I don't think anybody speaking had intention of trashing him , rather our experiences with him acted as good illustrations of what pitfalls may potentially fall on unsuspecting and inexperienced, or in fact experienced too, customer

you did , you did , just almost like describing my first time, addition being mamasan who stated "I will bring you boy " and called him over before I realized what is going on. Then he explained where short time rooms are and how much I'm supposed to tip overinflating figure of course. and before i could say 'God , help me", we were marching over to Suriwongse hotel short time rooms

me?, what is gym? LOL

all boys are , just some are doing it with more charm I'd not be that radical

waters will calm with time but question 'why' will remain. All this ' taking country back" BS was sound when colonies were fighting for an independence but certainly not a case here

last The ECONOMIST from July 2nd has excellent article "the politics of anger" on page 9 relating exactly to questions you raised inculding Trump voters . I just read it this morning

I'd not be that harsh. We heard that sex was good it just cost too much so 'offer ' got something in exchange. While it would be disgrace to take an advantage of newbie sometimes it's just communication "I go with you", nod of unsuspecting farang and boy thinks is offed. Such trick by the boy never happened to me but my first off ever was kind of forced on me by mamasan and I'm grateful to this day easy to say but were we all that brave when we entered bar for the first time? Certainly i was not, even now , all those years after sometimes when I climb stairs to Arena or walk over to Senso I surprise myself with feeling my heart pumping at higher pace. Nothing wrong with a little bit of thrill but of course we should stand out ground , on another hand what we will lose if boy is forcing himself upon us - 1500 but also chance of missing boy of out trip, who knows. Certainly it's beneficial subject was brought here so at least some may be warned and prepared for boy's antics. But you are right - offing is fun and easy and best done very often.

Your assumptions are somewhat correct, Boy in fact is Tawan smallest boy I guess. Soda is more muscular but by no means bodybuilder. So both and few others are ideal for those who are not keen on massive boys but still curious about Tawan. As for affordability don't worry too much , if boys went home without off for awhile they may be open to the discounts and if they like you short time may be easily converted to long one for a bit more it at all. as for 'hungry ' issue , if you want avoid spending money on restaurant or even simply you are not hungry and it would be awkward just to sit and watch boy eating here's a prescription: When passing street food stall or 7/11 just ask boy if he wants something to eat, it will cost little but impression of being good hearted you make on the boy may pay off later in the room and will follow you to the bar. As for reputation remember that statistic sample is very small , fact that boy was greedy or lazy or passionate and heart warming, you name it , with one of us doesn't mean he will be the same with somebody else. It depends of client , boy and probably phase of the moon too. So if inclined go for it even if you did not get good feedback. I recall at least two cases when trusted sources advised me against the boy and yet I followed my gut and was very happy. Also recall Christian reporting on the boy he offed three times and one was excellent, one so-so and one not rewarding at all. I guess this happened to many who offed the same boy few times.

well said, technically speaking if invited, guest has right to order whatever unless restrictions were placed up front / i.e. I only have 500 on me / but good manners dictate that host should be asked if this or that can be ordered . And for those who say ' you expect manners from moneyboys ? ' my answer is yes and my multitrip experience proves it. I always ask my offs if they are hungry and dine them very often, at least 2 times out of 34 and recall may be two cases when they wanted something expensive and even then asked , in one case I agreed , in another case I said I rather spent this money on you than your meal and message was well taken.

I like him because he has personality and clear understanding that he is to provide good feeling, No crap " I love you" but if I hold his hand I have guarantee that he will not let it go until I do. I don't like his money antics but he is only one who pissed me on a subject and I was still happy to pay up. And his smooth , highly lickable body, o men , getting hot in here as for post above I agree and disagree. Yes , as far as I'm concerned one time with Soda was good enough for me, he would be repeat offing material , even with that extortion. Is not the fact he wanted more which put me off but that to underline his point he sat down on a chair. For second I had feeling that I'm unwanted guest in my own room. Small gesture but not forgotten. No, I strongly believe that Boy is a good long time off material. much better then short time one at least for me. He is receptive to complains- when while ago I told him , no offs because last time he left too early he said '"I know" and for three subsequent long time offs he did not make any motions to go until I signaled. Even when I went for breakfast he did not use this as excuse and said ' I not hungry , I wait you" Hope you return from HONGKONG soon for more fun.

you got it right, hypocrisy is a good word, thank you for bringing that quite often overlooked fact.

or even better , get a massage and off massage boy, after all you have at least 1 hr chance of getting close to him in discreet environment

because I noticed that it's another thread about that, I wanted to ask ' think about what?"

it the same like with us , instead of new laptop or sofa bed we buy a ticket and off we go to Thailand never regretting and nursing memories forever

perhaps part of bumiputra ideology ?

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Gee numazu, your reports are amazing. Reading about your encounter with Boy I was feeling how my heart melts away. You are not only fan of him on this board, there are few of us. What a cheeky , greedy yet sweet and heart warming bastard he is. Yes , if price is not agreed in advance he will take advantage of situation and will hit you with an unexpected invoice, I suffered twice and he is my first Tawan off ever and proud double record holder , my both most expensive short time / 2500 / and long time / 4000 / . And still I'm smiling and smiling. And despite of his money tactics I can vouch that if he promised you better next time he will deliver, been there , done that. But fix the price beforehand , in the bar . Don't blame XBoy, he knew you will be going back and his farang will stay in Pattaya much longer. On another hand he took big risk going back to one who dumped him once but such is a fate of our beloved moneyboys- they just follow money. Waiting for a next installment still smiling

some degree of self-control over drinking will be necessary, as good feeling will start kicking in it's easy to overindulge. You don't want to off a boy so he can watch TV and you snoring drunk

you have a good heart ! Great idea

sometimes it may be advantageous if one is salivating after star who know can command higher price, you tell him this is what I paid your friends and he may relent.

unfortunately for my pocket but very fortunately for me

that would be me too, going to see big boys and off smaller ones