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Does it really matter ? Quality of massage and afters it what counts and my impression from two visits in beginning of Jun were very positive when comes to it. Granted , it was with the same boy, but still one who moved from the old Hero

from reports in another thread it looks that quite a few boys as well as at least one of the mamasans over to Arena. Your experience with boy who moved aligns with my experiences with HERO boys over years, even with those who weren't gay, rushed massage but excellent afters, hope they learn to slow down from Arena boys.

anybody with first hand experience of this hotel? If yes please share. Apparently gay owned and run, website says ' guests over 18 y.o. welcomed "

you wanted to say " Tawan /arena / prince/ jupiter etc, etc" , right

Nothing to be afraid, Arena was always my favorite massage place even without Hero boys , now it looks it will be even closer to heaven. I got a word though that my favorite Hero man , O, went to Prince, So it looks higher class massage places are being concentrated in Silom area and only Banana and Urban Male are left in lower Sukhumvit area with recent deaths of Hero, Uniman and Guy Spa. As long as I know former premises of HIS massage in the Silom Plaza are still unused, perhaps somebody will get an idea to resurrect HERO there to create healthy competition. Even top class chicken with cashew nuts is being served on the ground level with new restaurant moved there from soi 9. Good news are piling up for Silom it seems.

and not without chances of beating Belgium, place where EU is seated

No, neither Raya / night 5/ , nor Ambiance / nights 9 and 10 / , nor Nantra Silom / night 11 / did not express any concerns nor requested extra money. I paid 100 for extra towel at Nantra but that was it and it was my own request.

leaving EU is manageable but how you guys will cope with losing today 1-2 to Iceland of all countries is beyond my immagination

those are encouraging news from time-tested forum members. On the last trip I did not even bother going in after December fiasco so time to check again at next opportunity. One of my best off ever was from there also but it was back in Nov 2013

This is what owners of Hero thought perhaps as well

I was always of opinion recorded even on this forum that their prices , highest in the soi, were justified by superb selection of boys on the stage. Then last December bucket of cold water was thrown at me - nobody took my fancy at all. Since prices are still the same I wonder if selection improved. While I agree with Jasper's assessment of ladyboys act above judging by reactions of audience I observed it still amazes newcomers which may be reason it's still there

not surprising considering flying distance. Boys can only hope that mainlanders will start offing , not just visiting bars for a show and than leave as soon as show is over. On last trip I was wittiness of it in Tawan few times and it bordered on ridiculous, full house and few minutes later only few clients left just like boat from Grand Palace on Saphan Taksin pier.

nobody knows answer to those questions hence great uneasiness over the result which may turns out as trigger for monumental changes or big yawn or everything in between. Certainly European politics became more interesting overnight, only thing we know for sure

same with me but I was never brave enough. Once I took motorsai to Jomtien and guy made few unnecessary shrap stops, with every one I was closer to his hips but due to heat I lost my brain and did not get a hint I guess. Once taxi driver from Don Muang offered girl right away , when I said thanks offer of young boy followed but clearly he did not mean himslef - he was worth a sin

There's also Canadian approach to the ' leave or stay' problem. In 90' after Quebec referendum which almost resulted in separation of that province clear set of rules on leaving was set i.e. clear majority must respond 'yes' to clear question. Surprisingly perhaps this resulted in silencing , at least for now ' leave ' movement. In Britain nation has spoken clearly and there are only two options available , pack up and leave or call another sobering up referendum. In breakdown of relationship if one spouse decides to leave , other has only one option, open door wide but why to help packing? Hence voices to make leave option to look unattractive IMHO.

looks tempting , specially that I woke up hungry this morning

Calling Trump fascist is gross exaggeration but otherwise I agree with what both of you said. It seems Western world is slowly but surely getting into grip of populists, nationalists and demagogues and this in not a nice perspective if history is teaching us anything. But as they say , nation had spoken and nation will bear burden, if any, of that collective decision. Any politician can now say 'this is what you wanted". I wonder what Scotland will do but nationalists there would be stupid of not seizing the new opportunity and call another independence vote very soon.

no , that was Pattaya boy on one of previous trips thank you for a report some of us were waiting for myself included

we hope that after having a rest you will report on anniversary party at the bar

you don't have sex with junk food, do you ?

I like that expression "Little Britain" if history is teaching us something it is that when patriotic feelings are on the rise, ,trouble brews, I hope I'm wrong

Because with age they get wiser and know that free sex is much more costly? In their defense I must add that that being straight and wanting to do as little as possible not necessarily goes hand in hand. My experience with straight boys is overwhelmingly positive like they realize they need to try harder to please because lack of natural attraction. Sure I can point many exceptions but straights work for me.

but looks great for body worship ans yes , smiles a lot even in bar. from what I was told actually quite a bit of attitude

I rarely have any leftover baht other than handful of coins. I usually bust my budget toward the end and take money from ATM to tidy me over till departure. Usually I estimate pretty closely of what I need. Yes , when I stay in Tarntawan I do exactly the same, tip that guy 100 baht for his troubles.

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