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Showering boys with money in one thing and seems to be imprudent to put it mildly , specially if they did not even request it . But it happens . Last Friday I was taken to Hualampong by a boy who got a motorcycle from his lady client , I mean real motorcycle not motorbike. I don't see any reason for that personally. What I meant is that at times is better to accept boy's compensation request even if exceeds standards or market rates because we can be rewarding. Of course danger is that all his friends from bar will want the same but it may work for you as boy my be interested in keeping your custom by performing even better

your knowledge is (was ) welcomed but inclination to name calling , personal attacks and promised to smoke in the face of everybody who will complain about smoking in the bar which allows it, is (was ) not.

eat your words What I noticed on my recent trip is that Chinese visitors in boy bars started tipping lavishly ( on one night in Jupiter I saw two 1000 baht tips distributed by Chinese ladies to boys there ) and offing boys in increasing number

I stay at Copa last Dec and while they did not offer breakfast one could order it to the room from Ambiance across the soi for the same cost or just walk to Ambiance ot New Cafe Royal and they serve breakfasts from 7.15 a.m. Walking 10 m is hardly dragging to a restaurant. By the way New Cafe Royal now offers breakfast for two in a room price , good value. I was just there for a week and liked to be soo close , perhaps at times too close to the action.

Copa has massage boys from early like 9 a.m. Bamboo bar at Jomtien and Fah massage in Jomtien Complex were well staffed about 2 p.m. few about week ago when I was visiting there, so one can start fun early it that's desired.

not to mention special show at XBOYS

correct but still , even if one needs to wait for 2-3 trains to get in it beats buses, I just posted in another thread about being stuck on Saphan Taksin bridge for 70 minutes inside of 149 bus. ChristianPFC was stuck on the same evening in another bus for a similar time.

Peter , this whole thread is about bar which replaced Jupiter at old location. There are signs at front , at night there are also boys on Suriwong at mouth of the soi advertising show. I offed #60 from there as recently as last Wednesday at around 11.00 p.m. I'm sure you went to wrong soi

you don't know what you are missing , drink price is the same whether it's diluted gin with tonic, beer , soda or just water. Some bars have also hot tea or cofee -highly recommended if that option is available as one can get saturated with all those drinks very fast while bar hopping. If I recall Super A it's 150 , Jupiter2018 - 280, screwboys 300, Boy66-380, Tawan -400. Often price is posted outside , if not ask, is not considered bad form to ask about cost of drink, boy drink (it may be different , at Boy66 it's 400 at BoyzBoyzBoyz Pattaya, your drink is 280 but boy's whopping 450 ) and off fee, in girl bars called barfine

I second that. Last Dec he was my guide for just a day but helped me to arrange car with driver to some remote temples which would be time consuming to do while there ( I did some asking while so I know ). Also ensured me that driver is gay friendly so when I took boy with me to one of those trips I did not need to explain anything.

this would be to haste and unfair. What if some asshole writes that just to get back at guide WHO REFUSED TO HAVE ANYTHING SEXUAL WITH CLIENT ?

I guess all bribes collecting police in the area will know scene very well

is any building in Thailand you don't know?

18 hours in a silver tube and then 2 in the bus or taxi and you are there

telling about one's preferences is fine but telling others that their preferences are misplaced is not cool

image may be fake but boy still may turn out to be a nice

and they are doing smart thing, after being stuck in traffic in bus 149 which took fully 70 minutes just to cross Saphan Taksin bridge last Friday between 6.20 and 7.30 p.m. my advice is take bus only to any BTS / MRT station in sight and continue by train from there. After all not that upsetting as I was planning massage at Senso which came to naught because of delay so approx 3000 saved , long live a bus 149 ! , LOL

not sure free transport would ease congestion, rather increase it

I consider this an advantage as it gives an opportunity to explore other options while if there's restaurant on premises and breakfast is included we tend to take on an offer and dine there

there are quite a few of us who do not care or even prefer straights anyways so it's matter of preference , just like tea over coffee . At end of day really how straight is a man who goes to bed with another man and does it for living. If married man with children undresses in the room and by time you touch him is is hard already do you really think he is straight straight ? I certainly don't

you did very smart thing, even if one party enjoys something immensely if other doesn't it will not be happy time together unless boy is truly professional and just carries on because of work ethics but this is rare. Although depending of what we are some boys may be more accommodating to some clients and not at all to others, not to mention that on second encounter if they liked you before because you respected their limits , boys may be more accommodating, at times even surprisingly more.

he said " I will make you happy and go", it's just what he thought will make me happy was not I had in mind but we managed a compromise . LOL

this would be his preference stated up front but I managed to extract some concessions , not much effort necessary really , just telling him how perfect his body is etc. softened his inhibitions

perhaps there are as many definitions of those as there are us here on this forum. Affordability depends on our means , trip budget and financial discipline we can impose on ourselves. While going to Thailand we need to consider other that boy expenses. I prefer to lavish money on boys, with mixed results I haste to say but skimp on food , accommodation and shopping. Others may like retail therapy , gourmet food and taking advantage of relatively cheap luxury in Thailand's hotels obviously leaving less to spent on sin. We can present our preferences here but need to understand that what is ours not necessarily is other's . I for one don't blink an eye if I need to pay 1000 baht over going rate for an off but would consider waste of money to take taxi to Pattaya and pay the same 1000 baht for that. And it will be those who say exactly opposite, both approaches have own merit and at end of day that 1000 baht while it adds up over vacation days it still digestible sum of money for most of us. If it's not and one is still coming perhaps it merits careful consideration if Thai trip is worth of risking financial ruin. The same goes with reasonable. While on short vacation I think of not wasting that short time of fun on haggling and shopping for warmers and still cheaper body, on longer term, strong in knowledge I can out-wait that beautiful yet greedy boy I could employ more of cold shoulders when bar hopping even if it means lonely shower and night from time to time. For me most important factor to consider is value for money in my eyes. I will be posting trip reports of trip I returned from yesterday shortly but one thing is clear to me when I look back at those fabulous 2 weeks - all offs I overpaid I enjoyed much much more than those I managed to get economical tip request. Quite a few boys sensed that they can skin me alive and they did and yet they provided anesthetics by finding what I like and deliver with gusto leaving me smiling despite all that money "wasted" on them.

clearly our definitions of ' masculine ' are very different. I don't consider having a dick as only requirement to be classed as "masculine"