vinapu

You are good guy and your forum is very informative and well maintained if a bit of heavyhandedly at times but you must have your reason for that. Your outburst here seems to be out of proportion like you have personal beef with James , OUT or both ? Those are Bangkok and Pattaya maps, not ones pointing to the only well in Sahara desert.

even faster, last Dec in the beginning of my 19 days trip I received a flyer for Fun CLub from their guy on Silom and offed boy from Zeus, several days later both places were out of business. Zeus door were left even wide open so Christian and me managed to explore vacated space when we passed by the soi. And by the way, such heated discussion about accuracy of maps in the OUT but honestly when was last time you guys need to use their map to reach place of your interest ? I had problem finding S52 spa because map on spa's own website was pointing it on wrong side of the soi / they don't have a sign at all /, mentioned it there and 1moRussian hasted with proper directions so help is always here in our hour of need.

Keep your eyes off my boy, LOL This is good that we have different tastes , keeps more boys occupied. I'm not so sure that we who prefer bigger boys are such minority. On the forum rather yes but when I looked around of who is offed and who is walking with the farang or squeezing into taxi I'm of opinion that distribution is more balanced. Sometimes are surprises - I was dining with firecat at Maxi around Christmas and with our opposite preferences we agreed immediately of who is most attractive of Bangkok Massage boys. As for complains about unattractive boys, pricey drinks and offs, noise and smoke they seem to be immortal but this is not to say they are not warranted, depending of one's point of view and depth of pocket. Times are changing and so do we. I noticed with age I'm less tolerant of noise but more of smoke. Boys may be unappealing but one attractive is enough for bar to shine for me. As for prices I never complained since for me vacations are to spent and rest of year to penny pinch but recent increases surprised me to discover that I have my internal limit and while can tolerate drink price up to 400 / beer at 7/11 times 10/ everything above I may consider out of my range. The same goes with off fees and tips, there's mental limit above which I would not go unless boy would be tested superstar. So while I'm not in complainer camp / yet? / I say I have some understanding why some are.

Gee, what a storm ! Did heat wave already arrived ? You have very engaged readers James. Nothing wrong in asking readers to point some inaccuracies. It's not that OUT maps are pointing Hero to soi Convent and placing Senso in front of Ari BTS. As for professionalism or lack of it comments, don't you guys remember that Titanic was built by professionals ?

another trip reports are coming we hope

Resurrecting this old thread as I found it interesting to find that all this doom and gloom prophesies about bars we read in forums are as old as bars itself it sems. Those were days when we thought 250 / drink was expensive, now Dreamboys and Tawan are charging 400 and there are still takers

I could access it no problem by clicking the link above so may be site is blocked in Thailand?

we are waiting for next report

not to mention shampoo !

I don't think too many readers would be upset with your post, after all why? It looks we have a bit cheaper with exception of Dreamboys BKK possibly

so we need to wait until they put proper sign

enjoy your trip, did you find the elusive Body Club?

update part 12 removed from the website, my suspicion is too much of cock visible in few scenes

no need to wait until tomorrow, Nana or Asok BTS for Hero is only few stations away from Bang Chak for alleged new Body Club location

actually I personally like an idea of infiltration and wouldn't mind to read insider report from girl bar with prices of drinks, off fees, tips expected just for sake of science and comparison. Probably can be found on some forum on internet but I'm too lazy to search

I'm waiting impatiently for news about it since I couldn't find it last month. If you will you have my permission to call me names right here.

you traitor ! LOL

Actually I think you are speaking from "in the know" person's point of view. If one is newcomer and is not particularly sharp observer not looking for night's company may actually pass Silom on both sides without seeing any prostitute soliciting and if will not go deeper in Patpong sois person won't be suspecting of what's going on. The same goes with Sukhumvit and Nana Plaza and soi Cowboy although one can spot working lady here and there along Sukhumvit between Nana and Asok stations. This is beauty of Thai night life, it's there but not in your eye. I recall at least 2 situations when I was asked on Silom where Patpong is and those people weren't blind.

Their very actions are certifying that they don't consider her dead animal, it's not vendetta rather attempt to neutralize her and her brother by creating 'legal' frame to prevent her from running for the office for a while.

Zeus went out of business right after Christmas 2014, Christian PFC and me inspected empty premises on the day of closing. Word from soi boys was that boys from Zeus were transferred to X-Boys Resurrecting this old thread only because I noticed recently few readers looking into it

You may be on something, after all very few professionals predicted collapse of Lehman Brothers but I know pretty unsophisticated financially truck driver who sold very well his rental property just before of crash on gut feeling that mortgages are given too freely to all and sundry and this is not a good thing .

You summed it very neatly.I like this very civilized discussion above. Calling rice pledging scheme socialist is not excessive, after all Obamacare was called socialist scheme by some and there are Americans who are calling Canada communist country because of her universal health care system. Communists were no better by calling capitalistic even most minor private enterprise. So labels are misleading at time. One bad rice harvest in some big producer country may turn now wasteful rice pledging scheme into very far sighted policy. Some may recall similar situation in the coffee market sometime in 90-ties. Bad harvest in South America was mitigated by good one in Africa and Vietnam or other way around.

staying home she is thorn in old establishment asses, going away she would risk of being forgotten, she is probably following a lesson of Lady Aung in Myanmar

I fairness to the boys I must say that it's very long time since boy planted himself beside me uninvited and even then he asked if he can sit with me before sat down. mamasans are different story but it's their job I guess to intimidate us to off their boys. Tawan is an exception as their modus operandi is that boys are circulating freely and often they are approaching patrons but in my limited experience they never ask for drink or off leaving that move to clients.

hope you are right, unwillingly perhaps they are creating martyr