vinapu

Unfortunately is the word. 300 million strong country can't find other suitable candidates for highest position than son and brother of one president and wife of another. An than we will hear sanctimonious admonitions about other dynastic countries from US politicians and media. both Koreas, Cuba, Argentina, Philippines, Syria, Congo,Kenya, Equatorial Guinea and now USA, what a marvelous congregation !

this short spectacle is at 9.p.m. on the dot although on one night when I was there in May for some reason it did not happen, I was waiting in vain in meantime entertained by cruising Oskar's waiter

I'm not surprised, already stated before that I consider their show the best of all I saw in BKK and PTY and I'm not saying that because my 'boyfriend' from last trip is from there. Also boys line up was second best after Tawan for bars I visited in May but fact is I did not visit that many this time

Keep in mind I took boy to Nantra so he did not have any incentive to confabulate about Sunflower but of course he could just pretend he knows while he did not have a clue.

I found most intense selection process at SENSO since lobby is small and boys are literally 2 meters from your face , all hunks , massage always very good there, I was never disappointed

they were teasing you by suggesting you chicken out. Relax and as biguyby suggested , just go, once inside you will not chicken out, you may be overwhelmed at first but curiosity and excitement will take over, guaranteed. If you are after water, Waternest and Shape spa in Thonburi are your best bets. For sauna reviews read Christian blog, address under his post, you will learn plenty about Thailand as well. Forky is right - pick up boy who seem to be interested in you / smiles /.

I'm shocked

I can relate to OP being nervous since I still remember my heart pumping when climbing stairs back in 2001 to my first massage place visited-HIS in the same plaza where ARENA is now. Even now, after 11 trips when entering those places I feel some tingling under the collar. My advice to nervous newbies to BKK male massages will be: - go by BTS to Sala Daeng station and walk length of the right side Silom from beginning at intersection to soi 6, many massage places with boys outside - turn right and walk through soi 6 , still few more massage places as you are walking with even more boys to Suriwong - after 3 minutes you will hit another busy street -Suriwong, turn right, don't cross the street yet - walk along and you will see even more places with boys outside -when you pass Patpong and Patpong 2 on your right start paying attention to the opposite side of Suriwiong , soon you will see sign HOT MALE, BOYS BANGKOK etc , this is famous soi Twilight - cross the street making sure you are not hit by car, remember Thailand drives on the left -enter soi , few meters into soi you will see on your left MAXI restaurant and on your right and across restaurant Bangkok Massage with quite a few boys sitting outside, count your blessings because they will not pay any attention to you, being consumed by watching porn or whatever on their smartphones - have a seat, order drink but not a meal and get adjusted to the sight of massage boys thinking intensively which one you like the best, - even if you don't pick up anybody this gives you necessary nerves calming exercise - if you walk too fast you may stop at another restaurant - Dick's on your right , right after seeing another set of boys sitting at front of Bonny's massage, you may repeat exercise but vantage point is not as good since you will have your drink sitting beside boys , not across the soi from them. Now you should be brave enough to try either one of places you just saw or ones you plan to visit. Both places are not intimidating because technically you are in restaurant not at their place. Having to choose your first boy from the offer can be intimidating as well so if you still scared / nervous my advice would be to try Waternest, Jey Spa or S52 since there you are picking up boys from either smartphone or picture book. Second choice could be Hero, Prince or VClub because boys there are behind the glass wall so not in your face so you will feel a little more secured. You will not see nudity anywhere until you will be in the massage room with the boy who may be naked from the start or may start shedding his clothes gradually. In both places in soi Twilight and at Hero and Prince boys will shower with you so you will have nudity right away which may be good or not good thing depending how nervous still you are. My advice to my friend who will be nervous newbie will be to skip all the above and head straight to Banana Club and ask Kevin, very pleasant and informative owner for Tao. He is well mannered soft spoken gay man with superb massage skills, trained at Wat Po , it shows and feels I haste to add. Can't imagine anybody not being at ease in his presence. Banana Club boys are showering with you as well at both ends of session. Gee, getting hot in here.

1. We had breakfasts somewhere else, usually at Foodland Patpong , so really I did not notice that cafe and can't comment. 2. sign is there but boy from Super A I offed to Nantra Silom told me that there are no problems with visitors at Sunflower and being from bar located 20 meters from hotel I guess he is in good position to know. Room I rented was for use of my quasi boyfriend I brought from Pattaya , I was at Nantra around the corner, I had room fro 4 nights but he slept there only two (alone I hope). 3. I went there couple times to grab him at various times including in the dead of first night and had no problem entering, reception was manned / actually girled that night / 4. no idea as we vacated room after breakfast but they seem to be nice there so I guess with smile you can negotiate later checkout. They even remember to return my 500 key deposit I forgot about and had she not returned it to me I wouldn't recall it likely although chances are my boy would. Hope it helped vinapu

If you are in BKK just go to Tawan and throw your net. If not, just wait impatiently like all of us do when we have trip approaching. Keep in mind recommendations are precious but we need to check by ourselves, sometimes recommended boys are not to our liking, sometimes other way around, boy who we are warned about is becoming our little treasure . I call it joy of discovery. I even had a case described in Nov 2014 trip report when on one night boy was wild tiger and on next became sleepy kitten - I liked both incarnations equally.

I don't know your system but usually I ask boy how much he wants before off so no haggling in the morning , sometimes bit haggling in the bar if boy is clearly too greedy, I don't blame them for trying. Sometimes boy is asking in the bar how much I give them. I like to settle money and time maters / I off long time almost exclusively / up front so no surprises later. Some people just paying what they consider going rate and throw a bit more or not if boy asks for taxi money /for me this is kiss of death as long as that boy is concerned although at times I give them 100 for taxi but not because they ask but because I liked experience/ Surprisingly perhaps I was drawn to # 14 by his hairstyle but liked his personality and huggable body /with 3 offs it goes without saying / , he is one of smaller boys in Tawan

Thanks for warning, your opinion reflects most comments on another forum

3000, this is max I'm paying for long time spoiling market for others I guess

now we are waiting for yours

do you mean you occasionally see boys in business who are approaching sixties ? There are some here and there who may be in forties but I never saw anybody THAT experienced

Tawan, no mamasans to speak of, boys are friendly and very open minded. But if you are into twinks this is no place for you.

Me neither but boys drag me over there

YES, that's it,

thank you ! If it's any consolation I can tell you that I bought ticket for last trip at end of January but literally till evening of day of departure at end of May I was not sure I will be able to use it due to some family circumstances so I was living 4 month in suspension, an alternative was kind of pleasant too but nothing beats vacation in LOS.

didn't I post 3 or 4 pictures from Tropical gardens?

It's actually 2 weeks already. Before Thai economy can count on me I need to start counting on my own economy LOL I usually don't make plans for trips , just wait for moment of enlightenment and then act very fast to finalize.

Happy birthday koko !

Thank you biguyby. I'm sad I completed my report and now only can think about next trip for which I don't have any plans yet. I liked our bar tour as well spoiled only by way too loud music at XBoys and awfully silicon deformed cock of one of performers there. I too hope for future meetings. Bar tours and exchanging views about boys on stage is always highlight on my trips. But now I'm back to slavery only consolation being fact I hate summer vacations so it's easier to toil.

I'm not that stingy, budget was busted few days earlier / on Tuesday , I departed Saturday / . I usually leave empty pocketed when I travel either by spending last penny, putting leftovers in charities collection bins in airport which I consider great idea as for most people foreign money is useless in their home countries or by giving it to some random person like this lime

I don't remember name, boy from Super A lead us there since he knew location so I followed him as a sheep not paying attention as I'm not big on steaks. It was roughly across Silom soi 6 on Convent side of Silom, building is called CP tower or something like that and restaurant is on 2nd floor. It was some renovation done on first floor , you need to climb some stairs for 1 st floor , is not on street level exactly