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That's always the case of successful time together although on vacation sometimes we need to make hard choice - do something we travelled there for or , for sake of peace, compromise and look for something we both enjoy at expense of our own pleasure only. In Bangkok I can skip Grand Palace or Mahanakhon if that doesn't suit my companion but not nightly visit to some bar.

let him have it. With USA and China involved in talks things should quiet down soon.

those two ships so far did not sail off at all so he must wait patiently. If he gets Nobel Prize for that , I hope it won't be shared with Putin and Netanyahu,

good for both of you. 24000 is quite a sum. It's good to show a man a good time but even better if he will try to do the same. Hope that was your case. On margins of your comment I have one unrelated: it's consider common wisdom not to drag gogo boy to another go-go bar as he may not like an idea to remind him how he looks while on the stage. On my last trip month ago I had no less that three different boys who actually suggested they want to go to bar to see the show and based on reaction , enjoyed it

I adhere to this advice and what I noticed is that while compensation part seems to be adhered to, when comes to living arrangements , not quite , even if it was clearly settled. I always make disclaimer that if I bring another boy for that time I like to be left alone and undisturbed and room vacated until alarm is called off. Still had cases , I recall at least two, one of them quite recent , when it created offence and even triggered penalty from boy in form of sleeping dressed that night ( guest came during day).

reminds me two customers in my working days, both plumbers. One was accepting only big , substantial jobs and was mentally and financially prepared to wait for next opportunity. He wouldn't want to come just to install new faucet. Another one was opposite, wanted only fast and easy jobs gladly installing new toilet but forget about him to agree to change piping in whole building. First was doing better financially , another one had more of free time on his hands. Both were happy

I agree but as we see from quoted example of boy offering to take cut of 50% of his fee, there's a lot of room for negotiation.

if we genuinely like guy and feel good ii his company, I'd say why not ? Of course we need to looks for signs of boredom and complacency but so called quasi boyfriend experience can be quite pleasant if both sides are working on it. Boy hopping may bring new discoveries but also disappointments and misspent money. Ideal situation is to have stable of regulars to return to plus occasional, say every 2-4 days foray for new unknown. In any case of repeat we must be careful to avoid situation when boy is trying to take ownership of us by trying to modify our agenda of " I want go to Asiatique" or "I want eat Japanese food" type or starts to create additional financial requests. If we notice it , in my opinion and I'm not born yesterday is to react immediately either by voicing displeasure or cutting him off. sometimes it may be hard but when we avoid it , soon enough we will be reminded why it was mistake as new requests will arrive and smartphone will take precedence over our good time like in case of OP

I'm not keen on dining with guys who died , alive and kicking forum members are making much better company

that's close to ideal situation as we all know' man who dies rich, dies disgraced"

I'd opt for ichigo, reader and bkkmfj

answer is yes

and sampling him already I will say 'rightly so"

It was. I believe everybody visiting Pattaya w should try Boys Nighclub at least once

not just you , rest assured

while there's something in what you said above I'd say it's for boy to assess if such offer makes or doesn't make sense for him. 2500 a day for a week is 17500. I'm not sure how many guys pull that much ., specially now in the low season. Some do , plenty don't I'd venture, so given that option they may go for it with smile, specially considering that all other expenses , mainly food, will be paid as well. Truth is , only boy really knows his financial situation and ,so to speak, his price . On the same token only we know how much it makes sense for us to pay- one night it may be 10000 for dream boy we finally nailed, other night we may stand firm at , say 3000 for overnight knowing that if that boy doesn't accept there are two in our Line list who will.

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that I'd never suggest even to my worst enemy

I was happy with Maii, Noom and Ball there and for next time I have my sights on Vee but I suspect one can't go wrong here. Of course Marc308 is right , tastes vary widely

32 dead as result of border dispute which could be solved by tossing a coin. Must be some serious money involved in it somewhere.

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No , absolutely you were not cheapskate. While those days quite a few boys may ask 4000 or 5000 for overnight, certainly that should not be a case when boy is staying with you for several days for two reasons : a/ you are fully entitled to substantial volume discount as boy secures income for that same period b/if boy stay with you , not only you will pay off fee but for his meals and entertainment. You both go to the bar - you pay yours and his drink so 500 becomes 1000 etc. while 2500 / day may be on lower side is still very reasonable and I'd say 3000 is absolute maximum. fact that you paid him 5000 to avoid scene is OK but after that you made two serious mistakes - buying his meal and paying for his barber. Nothing wrong with that in general but not after you have feeling you already overpaid him for your overnight session. Good to hear you regained your sense and refused taxi money, I would be using plain language " I already gave you enough ( or plenty ) " - this is what I say when they ask for taxi money. That part of your report "He then wants to rest back my hotel because he was tired and upon arriving to my room, he flops on the couch fully dressed facing away from me and starts to watch tik tok videos on his phone and then falls asleep." should be warning signal for you. If you , God Almighty forbids , go with your plan , expect more of that day after day to a point that you will wonder who really is in charge of your space and time. It's different story to take boy for a trip when both of you are travelling which is different dynamics than host and overstaying welcome guest Do you really want to play host to somebody who treats you that way and gets paid for that ? four advices from me since you asked although I have my doubts you had me in mind when you said 'learned forum members" : A/ if sex is great engage him for overnights or short times as often as you wish, pay him and send him home after each session but forget about having him as permanent resident as fast it will become taking toll on you and your vacation time due to need to entertain him and bar with his antics B/ invite him ( or any other boy you meet) for a meal and pay for his taxi but ONLY if you feel like , not because he asks. Otherwise taxi money of 100 today will become 300 by next Wednesday etc. C/ do not be concerned about him losing face with his friends. You are on vacations , not on boys therapeutic session. It's for him to navigate that with his friends D/ you may want to read my last trip report as I put myself in the same situation for a week month ago. Difference was that my boy was well rehearsed before and did not put any direct financial requests. Still it was tiring to have somebody in the room constantly or asking him to leave when I wanted to have some time for myself (and perhaps other guest) . And of course all those expenses added up

former Nice Boys bar which was in Sunee Plaza from time immemorial. Sleazy place in good sense of it

not only age and health weights, sometimes simple changing priorities. I know somebody very well travelled for most of his life, now in his mid 70-ties. All of the sudden he stopped few years ago. We were concerned that it may be illness but were breve enough to ask him outright what's going on. And answer was both shocking and simple : ' nothing wrong with me but I noticed that long distance travel doesn't interest me w anymore". I can partially relate to that myself , for now only in flights part. For last few years I prefer taking few flights with more connection then sitting in the sliver tube for dozen hours or more, even if whole trip takes much longer , costs more and may require overnight stopover somewhere

certainly you wanted to say "same day or day before "