musgrave
Members
-
Joined
-
Last visited
Reputation Activity
-
musgrave got a reaction from Department_Of_Agriculture in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave got a reaction from FunFifties in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesA little off topic but too late after i arrived here years ago I read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather - fiction exploring the bar scene and forming relationships in Thailand - for me it was a sobering read amd wished i'd read it before i arrived
-
musgrave got a reaction from aaroninatl in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesA little off topic but too late after i arrived here years ago I read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather - fiction exploring the bar scene and forming relationships in Thailand - for me it was a sobering read amd wished i'd read it before i arrived
-
musgrave got a reaction from mauRICE in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesA little off topic but too late after i arrived here years ago I read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather - fiction exploring the bar scene and forming relationships in Thailand - for me it was a sobering read amd wished i'd read it before i arrived
-
musgrave reacted to jason1975 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesI believe someone on the forum has written about the host bars. The rich customers who go to host bars are not there to off the guys but to flaunt their wealth. Their happy ending comes when they succeed in showing off to the other customers that they can buy the most drinks.
-
musgrave got a reaction from daydreamer in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave got a reaction from llz in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave got a reaction from vinapu in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave reacted to bkkmfj2648 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesAnd it is what you wrote above that is killing off the gay bar scene. With the current trajectory of apps over real life encounters - soon we will all become "prisoners" of the apps - with no access to alternate venues to entertain ourselves. I hope that I die before that type of gay world takes over.
The gay hinterland economic centers of Thailand; Chiang Mai, Koh Samui, Phuket (Patong), Hua Hin, Hat Yai, and Pattaya, etc. are now much smaller than they were years ago - as there are now less venues on offer. Yet, we have potential new retirees who come to visit Thailand and visit these gay hinterland economic centers and leave with a sense of disappointment - as they are no match to the allure of the big city Bangkok with its very vibrant gay economic areas. Consequently, I would argue that most potential new retirees settle in Bangkok, instead of the many other nice places that exist in Thailand due to a lack of vibrant gay life out in the Thai hinterland.
-
musgrave got a reaction from 10tazione in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave reacted to a-447 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesSeems counterproductive.
Hopping into bed with a guy who is drunk - or on drugs- does not guarantee a happy ending!
I'd rather give the bar the drink money in cash and take the guy home sober.
-
musgrave got a reaction from aaroninatl in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesProbably unnecessary but always wise to acquaint yourself with bar/menu prices - several venues in CM charge per hour sitting with bar company on top of drink charges - some host bars conduct an auction for boys with the customer offering the most drinks for the fancied boy being successful
-
musgrave got a reaction from bkkmfj2648 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesProbably unnecessary but always wise to acquaint yourself with bar/menu prices - several venues in CM charge per hour sitting with bar company on top of drink charges - some host bars conduct an auction for boys with the customer offering the most drinks for the fancied boy being successful
-
musgrave got a reaction from pylonguy71 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave got a reaction from bkkmfj2648 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave got a reaction from hank75 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave reacted to a-447 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesI read this report and immediately fell into a deep depression.
At first, I was hoping you were right when you put your experience down to it being low season. But then I read Hank's follow-up and suddenly lost the will to live!
It appears AA has gone the way of the other gay bars in CM - is on its way out.
It's been a few years since my last visit, but every visit there used to be one of the highlights of my trips to a Thailand. The bar was always full - usually just local customers who would open a bottle of whisky, call over a couple of guys and party all night.
The Shan guys were hot - handsome, swimmers' bodies and, as they were from Myanmar, hung like donkies. I've always thought there is something in the water in Myanmar, Laos and Isaan!
There were 3 bowls containing condoms of different sizes on the bar counter - 52, 54 and 56. Most of the guys went for size 56!
The show was exciting. One of my regulars - Korn - did the Spiderman act with his massive member on full display as he moved from pole to pole around the bar. Another favourite -Mai, who now runs the Orion Bar - did the hula hoop act with his huge erect appendage pointing to the ceiling.
The show was basically wall to wall cock, occasionally interrupted by annoying drag acts.
So, it appears that's all changed.
Maybe you are right- massages are now the way to go in CM.
-
musgrave got a reaction from a-447 in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave got a reaction from aaroninatl in Chiang Mai Off Season September 2026 UpdatesOrion Bar in the night market area and Connections Bar in the Chang Klan area.are the main gay bars - generally frequented by tai yai lads some of whom are offable. Friday and Saturday are a little busier but it is low season. Both bars have Facebook pages. An alternative to AA is New Circle Club also on Facebook and located in the same area as AA. A short walk from AA is a small venue frequented by lads which was discussed in the CM forum - always found it lively.
RAM bar cabaret and Sixcret Cabaret both in night bazaar
Woody( and his partner Non) of Classic House massage do tours - a day trip to include Mon Chaem and Mae Komphong are well worth doing - trips into surrounding country side. If going to Mae Khompong a side trip to The Giant is recommended. if Woody and Non are not available they can usually arrange a friend to help.out.
CM coffee and restaurant scene is vibrant - some really outstanding places . My favourite - a little out of town is Cafe Eley
Host bars are popular here generaly coming alive around 11pm.onwards. Multiple lads catering to mixed customers - Sharky Host Bar and Club, BRC karaoke and Bar, Maya Club
Phoenix night club not too far from the night market - popular
Hornet and Grinder Apps work well here
-
musgrave got a reaction from daydreamer in New open-air bar with boysIts more a smallish indoor bar with a few seats outside for smokers - bar decorated with lots of Japanese keepsakes - some regular boys but quite a few come and go so dont expect a lad on Facebook pic to be there - 180 thb for for drinking company for an hour - the hour can be loosely interpreted!!! Large Chang 95 thb - basic drinks dont expect cocktails - Food is more along the lines of snacks - fries, fried chicken skin. Bar mostly patronised by local gay folk but few times i have been everyone friendly and lads are very friendly. My first visit there i left exhausted such was the company 😃 unsure if boys are offable - got the impression private arrangement if lad is wiling - One thing i liked was fully itemised machine printed checkbin at the end of the night. Bar is located in a soi with karaoke shops and massage - 7/11 at the end of the soi - Worth a visit if in town
Soi 6 in the night bazaar very quiet now - low season - one night this week one of the bars had 3 customers and 13 boys - the Kalare night market site is closed awaiting demolition. Orion , Charm , Ram still open. Connections Bar moved to new location Chang Klan
-
musgrave reacted to Londoner in Sunee Plaza Nice BoysAgreed; this should be remembered in all our dealings with Thais on the scene. I remember being more than irritated when falang visitors were haggling over a 100 bht note.
I've seen poverty elsewhere in the world- parts of West Africa were truly shocking. However, the lives of the guys we met (and in some cases loved) were very hard. Many villages didn't have electricity twenty-five years ago- my partner did his homework by candle-light and the outside toilets were no fun. He was bitten by a snake in his family's at night and hospitalised.
I knew what to expect when I visited his parents for the first time: what I saw illustrated once again why so many young men and women from such backgrounds went to Bangkok and Pattaya. I recall telling a friend that my partner had lived the first twenty years of his life in a rural slum. I'm so pleased that he met someone who was able to help. He deserves it.
-
musgrave reacted to daydreamer in Is NatureBoy dead?Bigger than you know - me too. I also have a few photos of Bo.
As with all bars, there are sometimes a few gems. I offed a nice Thai Army boy from Super A earlier this year.
Also, you can ask the mama-san to see photos of many other boys on her phone. She told me she can call any of them, and they will come to the bar, if you don't see a boy in the bar you would like to off. She also told me she can make a booking for the following day for any of the boys in the photos on her phone. She showed me about 50 photos of different boys.
-
musgrave got a reaction from daydreamer in Is NatureBoy dead?Havent been to Super A for a few years but the oldies were still there and still not got the message that there's no need to sit in your pocket when you have selected a lad. Met my true "love" there years ago and happily kept his family farm in Isaan from going to ruin and their buffalo herd from dying out - but it was so worth it at the time - Bo - sweet memories - meet him a couple of times in recent years - works massage near Saladaeng
-
musgrave reacted to floridarob in Is NatureBoy dead?Guess he had a big club..... me too.
He's gotten a bit chunky now..... if I have time in the day when I'm in BKK, I stop for a massage with him.
I have tons of pics with him, loved his tattoos....and cute face.
-
musgrave got a reaction from Ruthrieston in Is NatureBoy dead?Havent been to Super A for a few years but the oldies were still there and still not got the message that there's no need to sit in your pocket when you have selected a lad. Met my true "love" there years ago and happily kept his family farm in Isaan from going to ruin and their buffalo herd from dying out - but it was so worth it at the time - Bo - sweet memories - meet him a couple of times in recent years - works massage near Saladaeng