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Your question was about Soi Day-Night. That is what I was addressing. None of the places you mention are on Soi Day-Night. I missed the Buffalo Bar Buckeroo2 mentioned. When I'm in the area I'll check it out. I've already posted about Chez Vickie and Le Montecristo on another thread.

I see. Then what would be a little patch just above the upper lip? A Hitler mustache?

For 4000 baht he damned well better be . . .

I never thought of that. Good point.

I agree with you.

Now the link just takes you to the Sunee Plaza site. Maybe he got the message and is re-doing his web site. I hope so.

What on earth is a lip beard? For me, that's a new term.

I haven't posted any restaurant recommendations lately, so here are a few you might want to try. In Jomtien, go to Soi 4 on Jomtien Beach Road. Up the soi,on the left, you'll spot a yellow sign with a palm tree logo. That's Canary Bay. We've become regulars there. It's open air with virtually no atmosphere, but we love the food. It's all French provincial cooking. The menu is extensive. There are actually two menus, so make sure to look at both. My friends and I have our personal favorites. Mine is their Cordon Bleu. It's the best I've had anywhere. Another is a pork in mushroom sauce dish. If you enjoy couscous, go on a Thursday. That's the day they do their couscous special and it's excellent. Fair warning, though. Don't order it unless you're very hungry. The portions are huge. The price range for most dinners is the 250-350 baht range. If you still have room for dessert, cross the soi and turn to your right. You'll find a small French bakery called Sylvain. You'll see their dessert selections in their display case. 90 baht each. We always try to have room for dessert at Sylvain when we eat at Canary Bay. Their coffee is fresh brewed too, not that instant Nescafe. They do a nice breakfast crepe there as well. Last night a friend and I were in the mood for the paella at the La Plancha restaurant. It's a good thing he called first because it turns out that the La Plancha has closed. The owner has merged with the Le Montecristo restaurant on Soi Day-Night 2. Le Montecristo is the restaurant in the old Flamingo Hotel. We went in to discover a very pleasant atmosphere and there was the owner of the closed La Plancha. They gave us a welcome drink. My friend ordered the paella, still 320 baht. It's just the same as it was at La Plancha, although the portion appeared to be a little bit smaller. I changed my mind as soon as I saw their set menu offer. I decided to give that a try instead. For 390 baht it included a very tasty voule vent starter, followed by an excellent seafood au gratin. The dessert was a delicious coconut tart. I really enjoyed it and I thought the price was quite reasonable for what you get. My only objection is they charge 50 baht for water. Considering you can buy that same bottle of water at any 7-Eleven for 10 baht, I thought that price was much too high. After dinner we went across the street to have a look at the Chez Vickie restaurant. I was hoping it was connected with one of my favorite places to eat in Bangkok, the Vickie l'amour restaurant. The Vickie l'amour is located on Soi Ngam Duplee in Bangkok, between the Pinnacle Hotel and the Malaysia Hotel, closer to the Malaysia. Yes, Chez Vickie is the same, with the same menu offerings. The menu even is marked Vickie l'amour. They have several set menu selections as well, which I never spotted on the Vickie l'amour menu in Bangkok. Try the ham and cheese pancake starter. That's my favorite. Also, they serve Aubergine Parmiggiana, which is Eggplant Parmesan. I can never find Eggplant Parmesan in Pattaya, and that's one of my favorites. Vickie l'amour makes it just the way I like it, so I'll be in Chez Vickie very soon to give it a try. Both restaurants are closed on Tuesdays. If you want a really fantastic Eggplant Parmesan, get friendly with Tperhs. He's a fabulous cook and he makes the best I've ever had. Unfortunately, now you'll have to go to Burriram to get it.

I don't know if I feel as strongly about it as you do, but it does seem to cover little else, at that. The shows themselves were all the same old drag queen and lip sync shows. Won't any of these bars ever come up with something different? When people keep asking me why I won't go to these things, there's your answer. While I realize that many, probably the majority, love those shows, I absolutely hate them. The last thing I'm going to do is spend my money to see a show that I can't stand and would probably walk out on.

I wish you all the luck in the world. I really do, but in my opinion, quite frankly, your web site sux. Why can't you use normal photos instead of that doctored-up crap you've got posted? I can't speak for others, but I find the way you did that very annoying and absolutely ridiculous. Is that supposed to attract people to your venue? From the pictures, however, I was able to see that one of your street touts looks like that same annoying character who has been around for years. His idea of how to be a street tout includes blocking people's path and physically grabbing them and trying to hustle them into the venue. I can't be positive from the way you've got those doctored-up photos, but if that is him, if I get grabbed or manhandled by him again or if he steps out in front of me and tries to prevent me from moving, you won't find me attending your show - ever, and he may get more of a reaction than my usual advice to take his damned hands off me . . . right now! Also, don't tell me about your "International, Award winning chef." Tell me who he is and just what awards he has won instead of insulting my intelligence. Others may disagree with me, but if I were you I would change your web site concept immediately. Whoever came up with it, I think it's a lousy idea and for me it just doesn't work.

I can tell you why there has been no news about Soi Day-Night. I was just there only moments ago. There's no news because there's nothing to report about. The only gay venue left on Soi Day-Night is Office Boy, home of the former Niddy's Nook. Outside of that, on Soi Day-Night there are no gay venues at all. Soi Day-Night 2 still has the gay massage places and the Number One go-go bar. Aside from some very good restaurants on Soi Day-Night 2, that's about it, although you can find some very nice boys in that area if you are cruising in the evening.

Something was said about 42 times. Somehow it would be a little difficult to believe they thought there were 42 cases of computer theft. These people are real prizes! I don't understand how they possibly could have thought invasion of privacy in people's homes, without even letting anyone know they could or would do that, is something they thought would be acceptable, especially in an affluent school district such as that. Somebody is in for major trouble and I won't be at all surprised if many more lawsuits follow. Another scary thought . . . is this the only school district in the USA, or anywhere else for that matter, doing this? If I was a parent I would either give the computer back to the school, no matter what the school district, or would instruct my kid to put electrical tape over the camera input. If I ever discovered a school where my kid goes was pulling a stunt like this, I'd sure be in my lawyer's office double quick. I'm waiting to see if there will be some sort of explanation as to just how this kind of invasion of privacy could help them track down a stolen computer or even if it could really help at all, how that is supposed to justify invasion of privacy, especially on children in their own homes without parental knowledge or consent. What's wrong with insuring their computers against theft instead of invading privacy? Also, can you imagine if a hacker got into their system somehow and started "personal observations"? This case came up because an assistant principal had a photo that she interpreted to be the kid with drugs. Even if the kid really had drugs, how does that jive with them saying the only reason they would use the web cam is to try to track down stolen computers? That's one assistant principal I think just may be working at a Burger King pretty soon, along with whoever else was responsible. That is, of course, if they don't find themselves in jail instead. Good luck getting out of this one. They'll need it.

For me, what you say makes sense out of much of what has been going on. I've learned a great deal from your post that I neither knew nor understood before and now I can appreciate the Red-Shirt position. But there are still three things I don't understand and I would like to know your opinion: 1. If the Red-Shirt movement is not looking to return Thaksin to power, then what happens if they do indeed successfully topple the government and who do they want? 2. Why would a Supreme Court ruling against Thaksin be the catalyst that spawns a major, possibly violent, response? 3. No matter what the Red-Shirt position is, do you think what Thaksin is really after, along with the money, is returning to Thailand, regaining power, and becoming a dictator? By the way, Thai people with whom I have spoken have been saying that if there is going to be a problem in Pattaya as a result of the decision, look for it on the 27th much more than on the 26th.

I can't even imagine parents who would want a school deciding to spy on their children within their own homes. I can't even imagine that parents would want schools spying on their children at all. Even if schools spy on their children within the confines of the school via web cams, then I would think parents would at least want to be informed that was going on. I'll bet any kid who is in possession of a school-issued laptop with a web cam has already figured out how to solve that little problem with a small piece of electrical tape covering the lens.

George Orwell was right, although slightly premature. Big Brother really is watching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vza_bMuy42M Students'-eye view of Webcam spy case | For the Record Podcast - CNET News Students'-Eye View of Webcam Spy Case by Larry Magid Students at Herriton High School in Lower Merion School District near Philadelphia are given Apple MacBook laptops to use both at school and at home. Like all MacBooks, the ones issued to the students have a Webcam. And, in addition to the students' ability to use the Webcam to take pictures or video, the school district can also use it to take photographs of whomever is using the computer. In a civil complaint (PDF) filed in federal court, a student at the school, Blake Robbins, said he received a notice from an assistant principal informing him that "the school district was of the belief that minor plaintiff was engaged in improper behavior in his home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the Webcam." The district said in a statement that the "security feature was installed to help locate a laptop in the event it was reported lost, missing or stolen so that the laptop could be returned to the student." The district further explained that "upon a report of a suspected lost, stolen or missing laptop, the feature was activated by the district's security and technology departments. The tracking-security feature was limited to taking a still image of the operator and the operator's screen." The district claims it has "not used the tracking feature or Webcam for any other purpose or in any other manner whatsoever." Subsequently, district Superintendent of Schools Christopher W. McGinley sent a letter to parents saying that the security tracking feature is being disabled and that there will be "a thorough review of the existing policies for student laptop use" and a "review of security procedures to help safeguard the protection of privacy, including a review of the instances in which the security software was activated." In the mean time, the Associated Press is reporting that the FBI is investigating the district and "will explore whether Lower Merion School District officials broke any federal wiretap or computer-intrusion laws," according to an unnamed official who spoke to the AP. In an interview with CBS Evening News, plaintiff Blake Robbins said he was unaware that the camera could be activated at his house. "I thought that there was no way that they could do that at my home," Robbins said, adding that the assistant principal "thought I was selling drugs, which is completely false." On the CBS Early Show, Harriton High sophomore Savannah Williams said she keeps the laptop in her bedroom and says that its on while she is "getting changed, doing my homework, taking a shower, everything." She said she takes it into the bathroom with her to listen to music while showering. "I was shocked," she added. She said "everyone is talking about it at school...everyone was really worried about 'what are they watching me doing.'" At least one student at Harriton isn't particularly worried about the administration spying on students. In a podcast interview, 16-year-old junior Jon Brodo said "I don't think anyone knows the true story...the problem is in this case is that there are so many rumors going around." He said that he is somewhat concerned, but "I do trust that the school district knows its bounds." Brodo said that most students, however ,"it's been pretty hectic. It's the conversation of everybody. I've seen the kid (plaintiff Blake Robbins) in the hallways. The atmosphere is definitely pro the kid and antischool district." On its Web site, Lower Merion School District says that it was one of the first districts in the country to issue laptops to all high-school students. And that is an extremely laudable effort on the part of the district to bring learning into the 21st century. It's also commendable that the school put some thought into a recovery system to help locate lost and stolen laptops but it's quite unfortunate that they used a system that enables administrators to take photographs of students using the machines away from school. Of course, no judge has yet ruled on the plaintiff's claim and the school has denied that it has used the cameras for anything other than helping recover missing machines. But even if that turns to be the case, the mere fact that staff members had the ability to turn on the camera remotely is problematic. While it's fair to assume that the school could monitor what students do with district owned equipment (just as employers can with equipment used by employees even when they're away from the office), I can understand why students and their parents would be shocked to learn that officials could remotely turn on the camera. ____________________ I find this part especially interesting: "Officials of the Lower Merion School District, outside Philadelphia, acknowledged Friday that they remotely activated webcams 42 times in the past 14 months, but only to find missing laptops given to students. They insist they never did so to spy on students, as the family of 16-year-old Blake Robbins claimed in the federal lawsuit." - CBS News Did these school officials have reason to believe that this boy was in possession of a missing laptop? It seems to me that if they caught an image of the very boy to whom the computer was issued, the "trying to track down a thief" excuse isn't going to help them very much. The computer wasn't stolen and certainly the boy would have had no reason to have reported the computer stolen since he was in possession of it. Just what the USA needs . . . schools spying on the goings on in the privacy of people's homes. "Did you hear what happened in my home? In my home! In my bedroom where my wife sleeps; where my children come to play with their toys. In my home!" - Al Pacino, '"The Godfather, Part II'

I think we all caught the issue. You might as well forget it. If the guy hasn't explained it by now, and didn't even have the courtesy to write a post himself instead of getting someone else to do it for him, then you're probably never going to get an explanation. Even if he does bother posting an explanation, you won't be able to be sure you're reading the truth. Isn't the "personal reasons" excuse already enough of an insult to intelligence? I see no reason at this point to ask for more, although since the board solicited money, I can see why some might be curious as to whether any of those who contributed got any of it back. The board is gone. He didn't explain why. He probably won't explain why. And that's that.

Washington (CNN) -- Alexander Haig, the former military officer, secretary of state and adviser to presidents, has died, a Johns Hopkins Medical Center spokesman said. Haig, 85, was admitted to the Baltimore, Maryland, hospital on January 28 and died at 1:30 a.m. Saturday, hospital spokesman Gary Stephenson said. Haig was a top official in the administrations of three presidents -- Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. As Reagan's secretary of state, Haig famously (and incorrectly) declared, "As of now, I am in control here, in the White House, pending the return of the vice president," he declared shortly after President Reagan was shot on March 30, 1981. Vice President George H.W. Bush was en route from Texas after the shooting in Washington. Haig served as Nixon's deputy assistant for national security affairs beginning in 1970, then in January 1973 became vice chief of staff of the Army. "His departure from the Nixon administration proved to be short lived," the Nixon Presidential Library and Museum Web site says in a biographical note on Haig. "Four months later, on May 4, 1973, he returned to the White House as chief of staff at the request of the president to fill the vacuum created by H.R. Haldeman's resignation on April 30." Nixon's resignation came that August. Haig then became supreme allied commander over NATO forces in Europe until 1979. He left the military for the private sector, but returned to serve as Reagan's secretary of state in 1981. He resigned the following year. Haig ran an unsuccessful bid for the 1988 Republican presidential nomination. Alexander Meigs Haig Jr. was born December 2, 1924, in Bala Cynwyd, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Philadelphia. He attended the University of Notre Dame for two years before transferring to the U.S. Military Academy in 1944. After his graduation in 1947, he served in Japan. He later served on Gen. Douglas MacArthur's staff in Japan during the Korean War.

Here are a couple updates from the BANGKOK POST: _____ UDD Mass Rally Could Hit Tourism 20/02/2010 The planned mass anti-government demonstration late this month by the red-shirt people group could have negative impact on the tourism sector, Prakit Chin-amornpong, Chairman of Thai Hotels Association, said on Saturday. “Some countries, including England, Belgium, Germany, Canada, Australia and Japan had already advised their citizens to avoid traveling to rally sites for safety reason”, Mr. Prakit said. Foreign tourists, especially Chinese, might refrain from visiting Thailand as they fear the demonstration would turn to violence, he added. The chairman said the number of tourist visiting the country in January increased from the same month last year by 17.5 per cent to 1.5 million. This year would be a golden year of Thailand’s tourism sector, if there in no unrest, because the world’s economy recovering and more foreign arrivals are expected. UDD leader Jatuporn Pronphan announced on Friday that the mass rally will be held after Feb 26, the judgment day on Thaksin assets case. UDD leaders would meet to discuss exact date. ____________________ PAD Will Accept Court Ruling (** The PAD is the Yellow-Shirts - opposed to Thaksin) 20/02/2010 The People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) will accept court ruling and will not stage any rally even if the court rules not to seize assets of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his family, PAD core leader Phiphob Dhongchai insisted. “PAD will accept the court verdict and will not make any political move as it could be cited to incite violence”, Mr. Phiphob said on Saturday afternoon. He was confident that the government is capable of keeping the situation under control. However, he warned the government of the third party which wants to provoke unrest in the country. The Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions will on Feb 26 give verdict on whether to confiscate 76.6 billion baht in assets of Thaksin and his family.

The odd thing is I read an article somewhere claiming that all of this has had no particular effect on tourist numbers. Of course you never know whether they're telling the truth, but judging from the numbers of people I see, they very well may be right. Traffic in Pattaya has been much heavier than usual lately. We'll have to see what kind of effect this will have on tourism. The tourist industry has already had enough problems. Meanwhile, there still has been no effect on the exchange rates. I think if the protests escalate into violence, that's when we may see some sort of collapse in Thailand. At least this time they've waited until the major part of high season is coming to an end. One thing is for sure, even though the protests in Bangkok usually take place in areas that have no particular effect on the gay areas, I'm certainly not going to Bangkok at least until whatever occurs blows over. That's not because I would be afraid to go to Bangkok. It's because I anticipate even worse traffic problems than usual and police checks on the road and within Bangkok every fourteen seconds. For the time being, I'm staying put. Throughout the coup and other protest demonstration brouhahas, in Pattaya you never would have known much of anything was going on. Even when the Red-Shirts disrupted that meeting in Pattaya, unless you were within that area and the surrounding vicinities, you still didn't encounter much of a problem. At least I never did. But if this nonsense escalates into violence, maybe this time it will be a different story. All any of us can do is sit back and watch the show. As selfish as this might be, if whatever happens causes the exchange rate to move in our favor, I would have no objection to that aspect of the situation.

As the day, February 26, that the Thai Supreme Court will render its decision as to whether ousted Prime Minister Thaksin gets to keep his money or whether Thailand confiscates it approaches, tensions are mounting. There are more and more doom-and-gloom predictions that major Red-Shirt protests and demonstrations are to be expected if the court rules against Thaksin and possibly Yellow-Shirt protests if the court rules in his favor. Apparently it is being taken for granted that the court will rule against Thaksin because the Red-Shirts (Thaksin supporters) are already out there causing problems. Yesterday, for example, a Red-Shirt demonstration forced the Bangkok Bank's main headquarters in Bangkok to close at about noon. (If you hold a Bangkok Bank account or plan to use a Bangkok Bank branch or ATM, no need to worry. All the branches, ATMs, and online banking remained open and operating normally.) Several countries are issuing travel warnings, including Australia, the USA, and the UK, advising foreigners to keep clear of any protests and saying the protests may turn violent. The following appears in the BANGKOK POST: _____ Foreigners Told to Keep Clear Published: 20/02/2010 The United States, Britain and Australia have issued new travel advisories warning their citizens about the risk of civil unrest as the Feb 26 verdict in Thaksin's 76 billion baht assets case nears. The warnings issued yesterday followed a mass rally by the anti-government United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship outside Bangkok Bank on Silom Road, which forced the country's largest commercial bank headquarters to close from midday. Political tensions are growing in the run-up to the so-called "judgement day" on Feb 26, when the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Office will deliver its verdict on whether to seize ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's 76 billion baht of frozen assets. Thaksin is accused of acquiring "unusual wealth" through the abuse of power when he was prime minister. It is likely that political demonstrations may take place leading up to, on, or after Feb 26, the US embassy said. "We wish to remind US citizens that even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and possibly escalate into violence," it said. US citizens are urged to avoid demonstrations and to exercise caution within the vicinity of any demonstrations. The British embassy said the political situation in Thailand is tense and uncertain. British citizens should exercise great caution throughout Thailand and avoid demonstrations or large gatherings that might turn violent. "The court decision is a potential flashpoint. If, as quite possible, anti-government protests turn violent, British citizens should stay indoors and monitor the media," it said. The Australian embassy advised its citizens to exercise a "high degree" of caution because of the current political instability and expected demonstrations. "Follow any instructions issued by local authorities," the embassy said. Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday said Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya is regularly updating other countries about the local political and security situation. "I want every party to help the country move forward because several things have been on a positive trend, particularly the economy," said Mr Abhisit. ____________________ And this, from THE NATION: _____ Protest Forces Bangkok Bank to Shut HQ By PRAVIT ROJANAPHRUK THE NATION February 20, 2010 Violence was lurking just beneath the surface at yesterday's red-shirt rally by the Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship (DAAD) in front of Bangkok Bank's headquarters on Silom Road. Shortly after 2pm, a group of 100 red shirts and security personnel ran towards the Silom-Narathiwat intersection, apparently chasing some people. Some onlookers said a yellow-shirt People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) member attacked a red car and ran away. Another said a group of PAD supporters attacked a red-shirted man. But nobody, police included, seemed to know for certain. The anger and hatred for the PAD and the old elite was very visible. One man, wearing a red necktie abusively ranted against the yellow shirts and Privy Council president General Prem Tinsulanonda, with words too rude to be published. By the same token, the PAD also cannot stand the red shirts. A columnist at ASTV-Manager Daily newspaper, under the pen-name "krong leb", wrote in yesterday's edition that people in the Silom area and elsewhere should chase away the red-shirt demonstrators with water. "May I advise [readers] to use peaceful methods. Those in high-rise buildings or on pedestrian bridges should simply splash water on those who are causing trouble to the nation without having to curse them." Water, by the way, is often used by Thais to splash against felines or canines caught in a vicious fight. Bangkok Bank was targeted by the protesters yesterday for its supposed link with Prem, against whom the red shirts have a major grouse. Prem is honorary chairman of the advisory board of this old and influential bank. Red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn told the 2,000 or so red-shirt demonstrators in front of the bank yesterday afternoon that Prem, being the chief adviser of HM the King, should resign from all posts in various companies such as the bank and the CP group. He said these are profit-maximising corporations that looked after their own good and ran counter to the spirit of the privy council. "All they do is profit maximisation and how can you just sit there?" Weng told the crowd through the loudspeaker. Senior Bangkok Bank executives have also been accused of encroaching on forest-reserve land in Khao Soi Dao forest in Chanthaburi province that is now a golf course. Even magazines like Thailand Tatler flaunt the special relationship between Prem and the bank's owner. In its latest list of 500 famous hi-so people, Prem is listed as enjoying "the backing of his friends, including [bangkok Bank] banker Chatri Sophonpanich". The bank, along with at least three other banks in the Silom Road strip from Soi Convent to the Narathiwat-Silom intersection were shut along with other businesses. However, one Bangkok Bank staffer, by the name of Vorajit, did not appear disturbed by the rally. He stood in front of the main entrance to the bank, heavily guarded by police officers and security guards, to chat with his colleagues while observing the protest. "They don't really threaten us. They're just on stage," Vorajit said. "I'm not afraid. They're not really pressuring us. It's more like a show of force for them." With nearly 3,000 demonstrators gathering by late afternoon, the show of force was not that impressive, but the hatred and risk of violence is there, lurking just beneath the surface as the crowd and its leaders gear up towards Thaksin Shinawatra's judgement day next Friday. Meanwhile, Santi Vilassakdanont, president of the Federation of Thai Industries, said he did not expect the red shirts' rally outside the bank's head office to turn violent. He viewed peaceful street protests as an indicator of Thailand's democratic progress. Thira Abhaiwongse, vice president of Bangkok Bank, insisted that the bank's management had no connections with the Khao Soi Dao golf course in Chanthaburi as alleged by the red shirts.

Not at all. It's quite a distance away. There is no effect and you will not hear construction noise.

And I thank God for it . . .

I don't. My interpretation of what he is saying is that he believes the city powers-that-be have a "this town ain't big enough for the two of us" attitude when it comes to the sex industry and the family industry. I don't see a thing in Pattaya that indicates much of an effort to attract families. To my mind, attracting families means attracting families with children. There is close to nothing in Pattaya that appears to me to be specifically geared for children or at least has children in mind as well as adults. There is Pattaya Park, one or two miniature golf places, a go-kart track, and some game rooms in a few of the shopping malls. Outside of that, I know of nothing else. Maybe some of the most expensive hotels offer babysitting or other childcare services, but I have never seen any at most of the hotels. I haven't seen lifeguards at swimming pools or on the beaches, not even at Pattaya Park. I have seen only a very few restaurants offering children's menus. The bars all over town are for children? Maybe some are for adults who behave like children, but what are parents supposed to do with their children when they want to go out for nighttime entertainment? I see no playgrounds. I see no kind of organized games or facilities for children who come to Pattaya with their families. I see little or nothing geared for visiting teenage children. When I was a child, my parents would sometimes entertain the kids with games such as counting the birds we see on utility pole wires. In Pattaya they can play "Count the Prostitutes." If they're around Walking Street or Beach Road at night, the kids will certainly be able to improve their math skills. When I was a kid I would play "Spot the Spy" at airports. In Pattaya the kids can play "Spot the Pickpockets" on the baht buses. So, where does "family oriented" fit into any aspect of Pattaya? Bar crackdowns translates into the city trying to make Pattaya more attractive to families? I don't see it, myself.

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