Gaybutton

Not one of the internet heroes showed up. I was there, just as I said I would be. I also intentionally said nothing about what my intentions were if anyone actually did have the guts to show. I knew none would. I knew it before you knew it. I see a set of posts now full of put downs, insults and assumptions. If any of you did show up, you know what would have happened? I would have asked you to sit down. I would have bought the first drink. And I would have listened to you tell me what your problems with me are. I would not have gotten angry, would not have lost my temper, would not have had a heated argument, or anything else ridiculous. I would have listened and talked about it - you know, like adults do, and maybe paid attention to your point of view. But noooooo. You see the same posts above that I'm seeing. Nothing but more insult and put down attempts - coming from people who think like a 14 year old. That's why there is no credibility to any of them and why I couldn't care less what any of the trolls think.

If you've got the guts, I'll be there.

Am I supposed to be interested in your 'advice'?

I'm sorry to see the Prozac has failed to help you yet. Don't worry. Given enough time, eventually maybe it will. I'll be at Elephant Plaza Monday night. Drop by, identify yourself, and make some of your comments face-to-face instead of hiding behind internet anonymity like a true coward.

If you're looking for something formal, there are two expats clubs in Pattaya: Pattaya City Expats Club: http://www.pattayacityexpatsclub.com Pattaya Expats Club: http://www.pattayaexpatsclub.info Neither is necessarily gay, but many gays belong to both. If you're looking for a group of gays that are not really a club, but get together consistently - virtually nightly, go to the Elephant Plaza bar in Sunee Plaza around 8:30pm. Ask for Bud. All the boys know Bud. It's a small group, but very friendly and you'll get the best advice from that group. I'm part of it, but I'm not there very often. If I'm there, it is most likely going to be a Monday or Tuesday evening. They have a meatloaf dinner there every Thursday, usually attended by 14-20 gay expats. You will be perfectly welcome. In my opinion, in Pattaya that's the best place to start and the best and most knowledgeable people to start with. If you want to have a look at my board, see: http://www.gaybuttonthai.com I would suggest starting by renting a condo rather than a house. Plenty of condos for rent are available in the city, where you're most likely to want to be to get started. Condos are usually available long term or monthly. Once you get established, get to know the area, and get to know where you want to be, get to know people, and get to know who to get advice from, that's when to start looking for a house.

Have you thought of getting psychiatric help? Your posts make it obvious you're in desperate need of it.

For those interested in buying such attire, here is a copy of a post I made on the Sawatdee board in January, 2015: __________________________ I know of a place other than Silom in Bangkok too, in the Platinum Fashion Mall, directly across from the more commonly known Pratum Market on Petchaburi Road. They have two shops in the Platinum Fashion Mall. I have their business card: Lucky Underwear - Wholesale and retail Room 1189-1190, Camden10, 4th floor Room 873, Nathan10, 3rd Floor Mobile: 089 822 3355 Shop: 02 121 9559 A young gentleman took me there when he wanted a few items for himself. They have a good, inexpensive selection and the quality is good. Also ask to see some items that are not on display. They have plenty. They'll bring out bags filled with all kinds of variations. I definitely enjoyed the young gentleman's 'fashion show' a little later . . . I also bought several items to bring back to Pattaya. You might be surprised at how many boys love wearing them and providing their own 'fashion show' for you, especially if you let them keep their favorite one for themselves. The shopping mall is huge, but with the above information it should be relatively easy to find the shops. If you can't find them, just show the room number and section name (Camden10) at another shop. They'll direct you. If that doesn't work, call them. Tell them you're at the escalator. They'll send somebody over to take you to the shop. When I was there, a couple of the sales girls spoke fairly decent English, certainly enough for you to easily communicate just what you're looking for. There are no such shops in the Pratum Market.

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I know a solution to that. Drink less. I'm not much of a drinker either, but you can always stick to soft drinks or fruit juices rather than alcoholic drinks.

Me too. Maybe the non-slutty types are the best kind, but when I'm going out for 'fun,' I'm looking for the worst kind.

And inappropriate for any generation. If anyone wants to see public fucking, look for a pair of soi dogs.

The Malaysia Hotel is a gay friendly hotel and quite popular with gay farang. As for public kissing, there's kissing and there's kissing. A quick kiss when people greet or depart is one thing, but if people are publicly making out, maybe I'm a prude but that's where I draw the line. That goes for heterosexual couples too. If you're staying at a hotel, at least have the courtesy to wait until you're in the privacy of your room. If you want others to watch you having sex, sell tickets . . .

Not really. You're here to have a good time. Try them all. Unfortunately, in Sunee Plaza there aren't that many left to try, but I think you'll find what you're looking for just fine. Like I said, your problem won't be finding them. Your problem will be deciding which one.

The least of your problems will be finding femboys. Plenty in the beer bars and go-go bars and plenty on Planet Romeo. Your problem won't be finding femboys. Your problem will be deciding which ones you want to meet.

That ship is still in the port. You will find plenty of femboys in Sunee Plaza. Plenty in Jomtien Complex too.

Are we all supposed to know who sukchai or bonny is? I have no idea. In any case, I would never post someone's telephone number on a message board. If he has a profile on Planet Romeo or any other gay hook-up site, no problem about posting the profile name or profile number. If he is working at a massage, no problem about posting the name and telephone number of the massage. But posting his personal telephone number? Unless he posts it himself, that's a no no.

Where did you get the idea that everyone is capable of defending themselves? Not everyone is. And why should anyone have to? Name calling? Put downs? Insults? Lies? Personal attacks? Coming from some idiot with the mind of a 12 year old - and it goes on and on and on? If that's your idea of appropriate "enlivened discussions," especially on a message board devoted to discussion about Thailand and its gay life, then your opinion is a little different from mine.

"Enlivened discussions." Nice euphemism. I suppose discussions are not lively enough for some unless insults and personal attacks are being hurled. I'm sure many greatly enjoy that - right until the attacks are directed at them.

I can only repeat what I said in my last post. How much it costs is not the issue.

That, to me anyway, is not the issue. The issue is whether the boy wants to take English lessons or the farang is pressuring him into it - even if it was free.

Have you thought this through? I hope you paid attention to your own words. "if the boy does this for him." For him. That's just the point I've been trying to make. Is the boy going to do this for the farang or for himself? If it's not because he wants to take these lessons, how much do you and your friend think the boy will be thrilled with the idea of having to take classes during the day and then go to work at night? Does the boy want to do this or is your friend going to force it on him? If the boy is going to take these lessons to please your friend, how about your friend offering to also cover the money the boy makes by working at night so he at least won't have to work at night on top of these classes during the day? Is your friend going to take Thai lessons?

The Thai boy has a farang boyfriend. The farang is so controlling that he only lets the boy go anywhere by himself or with friends if the boy uses his smartphone, takes photos of where he is and who he's with, and immediately sends the photos back to the farang's smartphone. He's supposed to be a boyfriend, not a slave, and he expects the farang to trust him, which the farang obviously does not. The boy is getting sick and tired of that.

I don't think so. If it were me, I would not only remove the posts, but I would get rid of anyone posting those. As a board owner, the last thing I need is someone I have to monitor to keep him from violating the rules and posting offensive troll posts. What on earth would I, Scooby, or any other board owner need with people like that?

We're getting a little off topic here, but I agree with Michael's post above. I know one Thai boy who told me that on the rare occasions when farang he's with actually lets him go out on his own, he insists that he take photos of where he is and who he's with and send them back immediately. Why do I have a feeling that relationship is doomed? On the other hand, many years ago I was in a relationship with a Thai boy who was so insecure and so jealous that it caused major problems if I so much as glanced in the direction of another boy - and I'm not exaggerating. At first that was flattering, but believe me, that gets old fast. It didn't take long for that relationship to go south. Michael, you might remember that. We had an incident at one of your parties. My crime was asking one of the boys where the bathroom is. Kaboom!

Yes, of course. That's not the problem. Finding the right Thai boy in the first place - that's the problem.