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Yes if the bill includes a service charge. Just how much out that service charge ends up in your waiter's pocket - your guess is as good as mine. I think it is still called a tip because that it what it was always called and what the English word for anything else might be is irrelevant. But no matter what it is called I, for one, am not about to pay those kinds of prices. I do believe in being generous with the boys, especially since the boys are the main reason many on these boards go to Thailand in the first place. But as I said, my personal generosity is just that - generosity, not stupidity. I'm not about to have a bar dictate to me how much I am expected to give to a boy. That is between me and the boy. I also don't know why people try to justify the much higher prices in Bangkok by saying it is much more expensive for these boys to live in Bangkok. Is it? Has anyone actually investigated how much it really does cost these boys to live in Bangkok compared to Pattaya or any other Thai go-go bar city or do people simply assume that because that is what has been posted for many years on these boards? If living in Bangkok really is so much more expensive for the boys, when did that happen? It wasn't that way years ago. In any case, those of you willing to pay those prices, fine with me.

It would be if we were talking about actual tips. But these "tip for boy" - are they truly tips? I don't see it that way at all. I see it as a demand for the minimum to give a boy, whether it ought to be called a tip or called something else. Way back in yesteryear, these tips really were tips. Now we still call it tips, but that is in name only. From where I sit that's not what they are anymore. I don't think we need to bother trying to find a different word or phrase for it. We'll probably always call them tips. But I think most of us realize they are in reality demands, That can be negotiated, but since when does anyone negotiate true tips? What I give to a waiter in a restaurant - that's a tip. What I give to a delivery boy - that's a tip. What I give to a boy I've taken off - that used to be a tip. Now it is a minimum expected fee.

Yes, that would be my claim. I would not go higher than 1500 for short time and the boy would have to be quite spectacular to get me to give him that much. I realize that many going to Thailand for a 1 or 2 week holiday are willing to spend more to get what they came for, but there are limits. 1500 would be mine. That is speaking for myself. If others are willing to pay more and have different limits, that's their decision. As for me, if bars really are charging those kinds of prices and the boys want 1500+, they're going to have to offer much more and a lot better than the same as they've been offering for the last 20 years. "I never get lucky with sex. For me, a threesome is jerking off with both hands." - Rodney Dangerfield

Am I reading this correctly? They are charging 1500 just to take a boy off? And then 1500-2000 for the boy after paying that fee? In other words around 3000 baht for a short time off? And that's after paying for drinks and "drink for boy"? For me, that's not no, but hell no! The prices some of these bars, including Pattaya and Bangkok, are coming up with these days are unheard of and, in my opinion, just crazy. Maybe some people are willing to pay those kinds of prices, but not me. I'll stick with the apps.

I agree. Nothing wrong with discussing medical topics and sharing information. But there is everything wrong with someone looking for us to provide a diagnosis and recommend treatment. Like it or not, that is for a doctor, not us. I'm sorry, but I think it is wrong to consider doctors to be the last resort. For me, doctors are the first resort. If you have something wrong, go to a doctor, not a message board. If you have had bad results with one doctor, go to a different doctor. "Nuthin' goes right for me. I decided to try Viagra, but I accidentally dropped them all into the toilet. Now the lid won't stay down." - Rodney Dangerfield

I don't know what makes you so sure he is Bad Boy Billy. Monty's kitchen was common knowledge, so that doesn't prove anything. I'm not really interested in proving who a troll really is. Maybe he's Bad Boy Billy and maybe not. The point is a troll is a troll no matter who he is and if the board gets rid of him, that's good riddance. Bad Boy Billy or not, I did like some of his earlier topics and posts. But when it became as obvious as this that we're dealing with a troll, the Rubicon had been crossed.

Until yesterday I really had not yet read through all of his topics and posts. That is what finally convinced me. I tried to give the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately now I can see there is no doubt. The best way to deal with it is for everybody to refuse to respond or reply to any of his posts, no matter what he writes, and no matter how tempting it might be to write some sort of response. Trolls want to see responses to their posts. Deprive them of that and eventually they go away.

I hate to say it, folks, but someone known to us only by screen name comes to a gay Thailand message board to seek medical advice from people he has never met and wouldn't know even they were sitting next to him? Sorry, but I'm not buying it anymore. You have a medical problem? Go to a doctor. Unless I miss my guess, none of us on this board are medical doctors. And if any of us were, we would know better than to dole out medical advice on a message board to some guy who has not even gone for a proper diagnosis to a medical doctor. Besides, all these diseases? I'm no longer buying any of that either. If you really do have these problems, what you need is a doctor, not us. And if you really don't have these problems or are grossly exaggerating them, then you're a board troll and people would need to stop responding to any of your posts in any way, shape, or form. That's the best way to get rid of trolls - when whatever psychological need being a troll provides is suddenly no longer available. Trolls post because they want responses. When they stop getting any responses they eventually go away.

I agree. Again, I have no problem about attacking the content of posts. I too think those posts are inappropriate considering people who have had to deal with cancer - and that includes me. My suggestion to Olddaddy - don't try to defend those posts. Just stop it and move on to something else.

Gents, even if you are convinced Olddaddy is a troll, I hope posts on this board will not digress into personal attacks. I have always been opposed to personal attacks. Let Trump be the personal attacker - I hope nobody here wants to take a lesson from him. Your decision of course, but in my opinion personal attacks demean a board. There are many ways to get rid of trolls without resorting to those tactics.

I'm not ready to classify him as a troll just yet. Even if he is a troll, at least he brings up interesting issues (at least I find them interesting) - most of the time. I'll grant, though, that he does seem like the type who likes to post for no reason other than just to "hear himself talk".

Whatever it turns out to be, let's hope it is not something serious and that you caught it in time. If I were you I would not go to a GP. I hope you have sense enough to see a good nephrologist at a good hospital. I would not play around with something that might be serious.

I forgot. Usually that is my first stop. I meant after that . . .

I doubt anyone who ever met me would classify me as an introvert, but when I go out to the bars (which is very rare these days) sorry, but I ain't there to socialize with farang - unless I went with friends. I've had had nice conversations with farang in the bars when the moment was right, but it just happened. I wasn't looking for that. I'll let you gents guess for yourselves what I was looking for . . .

I doubt that, although there is still no shortage of corruption. But even if that is true, apparently they're not paying enough to the right people because these raids are happening and people, including farang, are getting arrested. That is in Pattaya. I don't know about elsewhere in Thailand. As for extending the opening hours, that is still in the proposal stage. As of the time of this post, nothing has been decided. In any case, if a bar is open during illegal hours, the customers - even farang customers - get arrested too. The police have been going around checking farang passports too. Make sure you have a good copy of the main page and latest visa page with you or good photos of those on your smartphone. I don't know the consequences if farang get caught up in any of these raids or passport checks. My guess is that's at the whim of whoever is in charge. I, for one, do not intend to find out the answer the hard way. I don't want to end up on a police or immigration shit list, no matter how minor it may be. I think the safest thing to do is, if you want to continue a good time beyond legal closing hours, take off a boy or two - or three - and continue in your hotel room or a short time room somewhere. Neither of those have closing hours - and no restrictions on what they're wearing either. Come to think of it, while it may be more expensive, that might beat hell out of sitting around in a bar in the first place . . .

Also a photocopy of your passport's main page and visa page is almost always acceptable. Of course you can carry your actual passport, but most people don't want to do that. Still, technically by law you must always have your passport on your person. I would say the risk of being checked at all as long as you are in whatever venue during legal operating hours, the odds are you won't be checked. It is your responsibility to know the legal opening and closing hours. Keep yourself within legal limits and you should be fine.

I agree. Find some other way to express your displeasure about something - and be careful how you do that too. It will especially be frowned upon if a farang says it, and any Thai who overhears it also won't appreciate it. And there have been many incidents when the "unappreciation" directed at a farang lands the farang in a hospital. In Thailand one of the worst mistakes a farang can make is getting angry and/or arguing. Neither will get you anywhere and the only outcome will be negative - for the farang. If it is something serious, call the police. They don't want any trouble harming the "good image" of Pattaya or anywhere else in Thailand. But whatever it is, get yourself out of the situation as gracefully as possible. You may not like it, but that's the way it is. Believe me, once you lose self control, now you've lost all control.

E hah! - Be very careful how you use it and who it is directed at. The recipient is unlikely to take it lightly or think it's funny. Don't confuse that with Yee haw. Yee haw means brand name Just out of curiosity, why did you want to know that one?

Do you want to know the best way to learn Thai? Listen - and listen very carefully. Forget about phrase books. And make sure to get the tones right. Often if you don't say the word with the correct tone, they don't understand what you are trying to say. The tone is just as important as the word itself.

The proposal has been withdrawn, but unless you are independently wealthy you wouldn't have been eligible anyway. The one issue that remains, and I think has a good chance of approval, is increasing the maximum time for rental contract validity from 30 years to 50 years. I think many of us who are getting on in years would prefer to rent rather than buy at this stage of the game. I know renting is my preference.

I don't think it is "officially", but more like "usually". Early February usually is, but as February wears on the number of high season tourists wears off. Just what kind of high season there will be this year remains to be seen, but for several years even before anyone ever heard of Covid, the tourist numbers dropped off to the point that I could no longer tell much difference between high season and low season. I'm keeping my fingers crossed because I believe this upcoming high season is crucial to what will become of the Thailand gay scene, especially in Pattaya. If it is a really good high season, I think we will see more go-go bars opening and reopening and more boys working in them. If the high season is a bust, then I believe the best we can hope for any time soon will be status quo. So gents, if you wish to help save Thailand's gay bar scene, during high season pack your bags and get thee to Thailand - and bring plenty of money . . .

I'd say that depends. Have you got something better to do?

I don't know about farang, but in my area along with everywhere else I've been, nearly all the Thais are still wearing masks. So am I, especially since now this new BQ.1 Omicron variant has made its way into Thailand. Only a couple cases so far, but we've all seen how that goes. Don't be surprised if a new mask mandate is imposed if it starts spreading. I don't have a problem about wearing the mask, so I'm going to wear it until the vast majority of Thais stop wearing it. Until that day comes, my mask stays on.

Anything wrong with trying to minimize the risk? Do you want to know who is most at risk? That's easy - the people who think they're least at risk. I've seen it happen much too often - people thinking with their crotch rather than their brain . . .

I have never been able to confirm this, so it is nothing more than rumor, but I heard he died several years ago. Again, I have no way to confirm that. I can only hope what I heard is not true,