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I had a non-Turkey Thanksgiving celebration with Reader in 2019. I departed the next morning intent on returning in April. And 1257 days after that meal I’ve retuned to a familiar but slightly different world. It’s not as different as when I did a return in 2012 after a more than a decade disappearance. I landed at Swampy at 4:58 AM. After walking a mile or so from the gate, I cleared immigration in about three minutes. I didn’t have to resort to the special one for diplomats, monks, and the aging. My suitcase was the actual last bag off the plane so that added an increasingly stressful moment to what had been n easy but long journey. As I needed to add a visit to Beijing to this trip, my routing from California to Bangkok took me east via Zurich and on to Thailand. So I was in an aisle seat on a 777-ER on United and then on Thai from Zurich. Total time in the air 21 hours with a two hour Swiss layover. So bag on trolley I walked out into the terminal, after noting the increased number of communications services that has moved into the arrivals area. They outnumber the money changers. And there were even more of them in the public areas. I checked with the limo service to see what one would cost and 1700 THB was quoted. I continued to the taxi rank. (VInapu, I couldn’t use the rail line as my suitcase is one of the big ones - needed for brining tea to China). Once in the taxi, the driver started negotiations. We settled on 600 THB which covered the tolls. Following reports, comments, and gossip on the Forum I booked Quarter Silom, paying for my room from the night before my arrival so I could check in when I arrived. The driver after making a U-turn in a pedestrian crossing on Silom entered Soi 6 even at this early in the day had two way traffic which blocked our progress. Then arrival at the hotel. Very austere and up to date looking. Check-in went smoothly, into room, moderate in size compared to The Raya. I resisted the need to sleep, took a shower, and headed down for buffet breakfast which was similar to every other one in the world. I checked email and some headlines…found too many of one and too much I didn’t want to know in the other. I decided to go for. Walking look around. I headed toward Surawong noting that this stretch of road looked remarkably cleaner than I remembered. Where are the massage parlors, Tawan is much smaller and advertising it’s Tawan BDSM location across the street. There is an upscale definitely gay friendly (note flag) coffee shop directly across from Tawan. (Coffee Grinder Silom). The 7-11 mentioned in another section of the forum has absorbed the amulet shop and the entrance to the Tarntawan Apartments. The pharmacy that was just before turning the corner is gone with contractors working. Suspect it wont be a massage venue. So many new building and/or business switches along Surawong. Still many massage parlors along the way some in what were restaurants, small businesses. Note: Checking exchange rates the shop in front of the Siam Heritage hotel was at 34.6 to the $ which was the best I’d seen.. Airport shops were at 32. At MBK it was in the 33 range. I tuned in to see if pay homage to Screwboys. Which, when I was arriving via Tokyo back in the pre-Covid days was usually the only place open when I arrived. Thought fondly of Yoyo my companion of many moments. Then to Hot Male road where the first sign of life was Vinapu’s breakfast location for sending his journeymen stamp collectors on their way. I noted that much of the space from the entry down the may is taken by Mary Jane - not sure (at this hour) what it does ( other than the Mary Jane connection) and then my eyes shook my brain awake and started to spot the number of marijuana businesses. There is one big change. Over on Silom, I saw huge construction projects and altered much of what I remembered. The Dusit Thani project which was beginning in 2019 is still underway and will further upscale the area. I guess that sums up what I was seeing an upscaling of familiar haunts. I got on the BTS and went to MBK to both check out the exchange rates (see above) and to browse. Prior to leaving home I was scrolling the forums for insights on massage spas etc. One that kept being mentioned was Kman Spa (K-Man?). So, I diverted my return to Silom to check out its location. Reader sent me a link with some location information. NOTE: the material from the spa says to get off at 2 at Saphan Kwai and enter the 2nd alley. This does not tell you that once you land of the street level turn immediately left and then walk into the alley that’s right there. I didn’t and had a long stroll until I asked google. My original intent was to just find the location so I wouldn’t waste time when I would come by after LINE-ing on who was available. However, i had spent so much time looking for K-Man, that it was now just after 12 noon and the shop was open. I went in and introduced my self to the manager. He told me who was still working there from the photo gallery that it on their blog spot, I said I’d like to set up a massage with one of my favorites from the gallery. If that worked out then maybe arrange a 4 hand massage, as the video on the web, was “intriguing” (ask “hot”). While all this is going on, boys/men are arriving. One of them from a room overlooking the lobby starts to smile (Vinapu rule V-64a) and play visual games. To cut to the chase, I decide to have a massage and not wait to hear from the “favorites”. The massager of the moment was Mr Sam who introduced himself to me as Sun. A twink from Laos. Massage room two floors up, shower down the hall. I showered and then he did, dropping his towel when he returned from the shower. Yes he could massage with some degree of excellence but neither of us waited long for what is euphemistically known as “afters”. Quite a bit of “aftering” requiring some tasty cleanup and then back to finishing the massage. What a great way to spend the lunch hour!. One thing to note: Mr Sam’s photos on the Spa’s site would not cause me to want to book him which would have been my loss. He knows his business (as we negotiated a tip for special “after” services). He began his trade at Bangkok Massage on Twilight but he doesn’t look old enough to have been there - but the highest authority (Reader) confirms. Sun and I exchanged Lines and as he is a 4 hand veteran asked him to suggest another therapist to join him in caring for me. And with that…I will conclude this installment of my report as it is already too long.

I did some duty free shopping in Zurich waiting for my flight. Seems like in room entertaining election Eve.

Just finished packing for my first cross ocean trip since December 2020. I arrive Bangkok early on the 13th. The last day of the election campaign is the 14th. Siam Roads guide, Mac, reminds me that there are no alcohol sales from the 13th until the close of the polls. Any one able to advise if the clubs will be open on the 13th and/or 14th? I'll assume massage locations recommended on the Forum will be operating. If any forum member is in town, I'll be in Bangkok from the 13th to morning of the 18th. I'll return for a week on 19 May.

The Romeo app has a reputation for money boys finding their wallet mates.

Our Board's wise stamp collector and Michelin undercover taster knows from great experience and experimentation of what he writes/speaks. Have fun gytis123, we all have had a first time in Bangkok (even vinapu). You might even write a report. Have a great time

The NEW Screwboys has only been open for a few evenings...looking at the boys pictured on FB one can sense they are reverting to the historic type of boys...slightly less twinky than Freshboys and less compact male than HotMale. I arrive two weeks from this morning and will do a personal survey.

lots of photos on Winner Boys Pattaya Facebook page.

It has been tough but thanks to your reports and Reader's eagle eye I've had a vital voyeur's insight into honing my visit. I've been in touch with Moses (SiamRoads) to have super guide Mac update me on the geographic changes when I arrive on May 14th.

Somehow it comes down to one's personality type. Some of us want everything in order when we travel. Others, like a friend in California will pack skis and a surfboard when he leaves as he can't make up his mind what he want to do. My sense is enjoy the trip. I would note - in case some rules come out of this topic...if you are arriving in the middle the night (pre-dawn) it is a good thought to book the first night if nothing else. Example, international flight arrives 5AM. Book a room for the night before so you can access the room when you get to the hotel.

I just confirmed my first visit since November 2019...not that I needed an additional incentive but Screwboys has a special place in my mind/heart/private moments.

I did go down the rabbit hole and learned that "non-straight" is actually Non who is straight. I also fond that Reader covered all this in 2022.

Being an avid reader of Reader's posts, i got caught up in this "conversation" and never having heard of 15M decided to google it. The "g" had little but did send me to Twitter where 15M Massage @boybk12345 can be found. Photos of the massage artists are included and info on gay/straight/non-straight (whatever that means) was shown. There is also a reference in some of the photos to 27M Massage (I found it when glancing at the photo of Dumbbell Gay). Don't have time right now to go down that rabbit hole.

Moonlight posted a video of an appearance at the Festival site and then an after party at the bar.

There's a fast track for arrivals and for departures. For departures follow the monks. For arrivals, there is the advice above to follow the airline uniforms, there is also a separate entrance located between the to main arrival areas near to where the visa on arrival area is prior to the immigration halls.

Remembering last stay just before Covid the back rooms especially on the lower floors were dark from minimum sun. Since then the Quarter Hotel has opened which should block out light on the upper floors. Floridarob is a long time Tarntawan-er and I respect his judgement so now I might consider a return as long as its on the front.

Friday late afternoon airport arrival. Ugh! Vinapu's info on taking the train are spot on. I've used them more than once and will again in December. The Raya is very very close to the Sala Daeng station.

All well and good to talk about Dreamboys moving...BUT any word on a return for Screwboys?

Welcome back...enjy every moment

When going to Bangkok or Pattaya, I will post my dates in the forum and ask if anyone will be in town when I am in Thailand. While the number of members I've met doesn't total near as many as @vinapu, it is enough to have made for many interactions, some looking for spies at now gone Madrid pizza. It's been fun to be with @vinapu and @spoon as they tend to look for companions slightly different than my searches.

I've changed my trip plans to align my time in Bangkok with the visits of some other forum members. I am now booked round trip on Eva with a stop on Taipel in each direction. It is the fastest way by several hours to transit the Pacific. M original booking wasn't on Eva as a 48 hour covid test was required for transit passengers. That requirement was dropped as of July 14th. I will be going economy using 84,000 miles/points for the round trip. That prices the trip at approximately $1,100 based on a value of 1.3 cents per mile/point

I am in general agreement with @macaroni21 on Lucky Boys except for the description of the leaseholder as "poor". He/she is the leaseholder for Lucky Boys and Bangkok Massage. So is the power behind Screwboys future. Hopefully both will find ways to love and breathe again. I anticipate the powers behind the powers will find a way to thrive.

The Thai version of viagra is sidegra was available at the pharmacy you ask about as well a most of the other pharmacies in the neighborhood, no prescription required. Cialis is similar is viagra so I suspect other pharmacies along Surawong will be available to assist. Sidegra comes in a tablet and a gel, one frequent correspondent on this board prefers the gel as he believes it is quicker acting.

On massages, check recommendations from @reader who is just back and is a massage connoisseur ranking with @DivineMadman and @TotallyOz

As the boys might say: same, same

I prefer the Amara and have just booked three night there in September. It's about a five minute walk from the New Twilight Male bar and five more from Moonlight, Hot Male, DreamBoys etc. The Raya once steps from Twilight is now next to a construction site. It hasn't moved just the developers have moved in on Twilight. If debating between the two, recommend a @vinapusolution...a few nights at each. My version of this is Amara to start, then Pattaya for a few nights, then back to Bangkok with a stay at the new Quarter Silom hotel.