Jimbillp

Just don’t order pizza if you are hungry! Tbf you will be warned
lucky I was with a kind sole who shared some of their chicken and cashews

Here in Da Nang - the beach is divided into many zones, where us swimmers are allowed to swim - where the area is indicated with;
Yellow Flag - moderate surf and/or currents, Red Flag - stronger currents and waves are present, Double Red Flags - water is closed to the public.  
Our gayguides beach, in my opinion, is currently unsafe to swim in, and in my opinion is in a state of Red Flag.  Consequently, I will not enter these dangerous waters until the gayguides lifeguards (i.e., the gayguide membership) do the necessary to make it safe again to swim in our gayguides beach.
 
Case in point:

 

The conclusion is there is a right C U Next Tuesday pompously dominating this thread.  
can you imagine being stuck with them in person
what a boring arse
Hopefully soon to withdraw again with a hissy fit

@PeterRS 
I had been holding my tongue in the hope that this unpleasant and pointless thread would be deleted or drop from sight. However as you seem set on perpetuating it….
It is hard to believe that you can be so obtuse. You seem unable to understand the hints that others have dropped on this thread and others in what seems much like a consensus, so I’ll give you my opinion in a more direct way.
Your comments about other active posters and their posting styles, eg this thread, are petty, snide and vindictive and have diminished this forum and discouraged interesting participants from contributing.
Your posts are too often full of vainglorious condescension, seem to be ubiquitous and are swamping the board. You have no humility in your posting and can never accept that anyone else has a valid perspective. It’s not a competition, it’s a conversation.
Sooner or later I expect you will become terminally offended again, throw another hissy fit and storm out slamming the door behind you. You will leave behind a board diminished not by your absence but by the absence of those you have discouraged from participating on this forum.
 
PS. “The Dangers of Assumptions” is a deeply pretentious title to a thread that was created solely to stick the knife into a regular, valued and informative poster. 
 

The Jupiter show is by the best and most polished performance of all the bars.  The place has a lot of energy and has the added attraction of being good people watching. On Saturday night it was packed.  You feel they are making a show and want to entertain. The show does also have genuine tease/naughtiness. 
Unlike moonlight where the feeling of lethargy now has a firm hold…..
There are a lot of ladies in the audience too but in their flirtatious interactions the dancers would engage with male and female audience members.   You do see more women in the front seats I guess having booked/bought bottles and that does give them a greater role in the interactions.
One number had a dancer lay back across a sofa and have sweets placed across his almost naked body - only underwear worn. Audience members were invited on stage to eat the sweets directly and it was a mix of men and women participating.
Its also good that the second drink price falls to 250.  Not exactly cheap. But far better than any equivalent. 
(tip for best viewing, get as far up the wings toward the front of the stage as possible, esp on the door side.  You are a lot closer to the show than being behind the stage and get far more glimpses, esp in the towel routine!)

The Jupiter show is by the best and most polished performance of all the bars.  The place has a lot of energy and has the added attraction of being good people watching. On Saturday night it was packed.  You feel they are making a show and want to entertain. The show does also have genuine tease/naughtiness. 
Unlike moonlight where the feeling of lethargy now has a firm hold…..
There are a lot of ladies in the audience too but in their flirtatious interactions the dancers would engage with male and female audience members.   You do see more women in the front seats I guess having booked/bought bottles and that does give them a greater role in the interactions.
One number had a dancer lay back across a sofa and have sweets placed across his almost naked body - only underwear worn. Audience members were invited on stage to eat the sweets directly and it was a mix of men and women participating.
Its also good that the second drink price falls to 250.  Not exactly cheap. But far better than any equivalent. 
(tip for best viewing, get as far up the wings toward the front of the stage as possible, esp on the door side.  You are a lot closer to the show than being behind the stage and get far more glimpses, esp in the towel routine!)

It is a much better internal space, and location if they can make it work.  They had glitches but wasn’t bad for opening night.  They do need to think about a few things and refresh.  Second drink at 500 is too steep. 
it’s also made the road outside even more congested.  Four sets of barkers almost on top of each other, but that critical mass can help all too.  

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

It was meant to be picture of outside of bar with lights on. But hasn’t uploaded correctly

It is a much better internal space, and location if they can make it work.  They had glitches but wasn’t bad for opening night.  They do need to think about a few things and refresh.  Second drink at 500 is too steep. 
it’s also made the road outside even more congested.  Four sets of barkers almost on top of each other, but that critical mass can help all too.  

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

I thought worth a new title as this place bound to be much talked about.
At behest of Vinapu I attended opening night of new bar Atlas.  It is opposite Hot Male on site of previous Sol and Dreamboys.
In summary it is Tawan moved to a bigger and better venue.  Focus on muscle and seemed to be largely drawn from previous staff and performers at forementioned.
Show had same ingredients as I recall from Tawan
- Bodybuilding displays 
- then ladyboy singers, aiming for comedy
- Then the muscle show and as explicit as you see these days with blow jobs and one twink being fucked and toward end the tip for cum show.
- also the big cock and floor boy rotations
Mix of boys -   Some genuinely good muscle, some a bit hefty, odd twink, oldish on whole and same approach of being very interactive with audience  - Joining for drinks and circulating for big cock show.
it helped there were some guests, including Vinapu’s friend, who opened bottles and were tipping - also a very generous Chinese man giving red notes infinitum and cans of soft drink. This creates ambiance and reduces the sense of pressure on others   
Audience maybe 40 patrons over evening. Very, very few women.  
if you liked Tawan, you will like this place   Question is can they rebuild that ‘offer’ and will they see inevitable closure of ‘the one’ which replaced old Tawan.

Banana bar lively last night.  It does offer a mix of all the aspects of the bar ‘entertainment’  with some decent energy and humour
ladyboy divas singing and dancing
showboys singing and dancing, great choreography
gogos
big cock show and performances
floor boys
But the most fun is the people watching.  Huge turnover given location.  From the clearly shocked tourists getting more than they bargained for!, to the Asian equivalent of the large hen nights.  Perhaps 50% female last night.
one boy, no 56, got called down to sit with European couple and was tasked with fingering her while her man did similar. It was quite the performance. 
 
drink is 380 baht which is fine if you reconcile it as a price including the entertainment/shows

Banana bar lively last night.  It does offer a mix of all the aspects of the bar ‘entertainment’  with some decent energy and humour
ladyboy divas singing and dancing
showboys singing and dancing, great choreography
gogos
big cock show and performances
floor boys
But the most fun is the people watching.  Huge turnover given location.  From the clearly shocked tourists getting more than they bargained for!, to the Asian equivalent of the large hen nights.  Perhaps 50% female last night.
one boy, no 56, got called down to sit with European couple and was tasked with fingering her while her man did similar. It was quite the performance. 
 
drink is 380 baht which is fine if you reconcile it as a price including the entertainment/shows

Duty calls. I shall drag myself there and report for you….

Banana bar lively last night.  It does offer a mix of all the aspects of the bar ‘entertainment’  with some decent energy and humour
ladyboy divas singing and dancing
showboys singing and dancing, great choreography
gogos
big cock show and performances
floor boys
But the most fun is the people watching.  Huge turnover given location.  From the clearly shocked tourists getting more than they bargained for!, to the Asian equivalent of the large hen nights.  Perhaps 50% female last night.
one boy, no 56, got called down to sit with European couple and was tasked with fingering her while her man did similar. It was quite the performance. 
 
drink is 380 baht which is fine if you reconcile it as a price including the entertainment/shows