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I was asked about whether guys are available... Not that I am aware of. The gay scene has declined a lot over the last 10 years. There used to be 2-3 gay male brothels in the city centre, guys for hire on the Sea Point beach promenade at night, several gay bars and coffee shops in the CBD as well as gay guys advertising massage services in the classified section of the local paper. And historically there was lot of cruising activity in the major gay gym (Virgin Active in Green Point), more take-away than consume-on-the-premises. The notorious highlight was one year when a vacationing American porn star after his work out put on a show in the steam-room as he auto-fellated. There was quite a line of guys trying to get into the steam-room. When I first visited and was single, I met a male model in a bar. He stayed over at my hotel for breakfast and all it cost me was 2 beers in a bar. I’d meet guys at the beach or the gym and get sucked off for free. Sometimes a guy might need to be invited for lunch first and that might cost $15. One time, I met a visiting Brazilian model who was very handsome and in Cape Town for work but very lonely; that cost me a seafood dinner and 2 bottles of wine - turned out to be a great investment of maybe $70. I’d say then that it was most unusual to be asked for cash; the invitation for a drink or a meal made it less transactional. Like everywhere, I guess the action has moved online to the apps. There is still a gay bar (now billed as the only openly gay bar in Africa) and a gay cafe. There’s also a gay sauna in the city centre. There’s also gay nudism and cruising at Sandy Bay, a beach south of Llandudno, about 20kms south from the city (but NB men have been robbed there). I am talking here of athletic or muscled young white guys that I met. In the past, I was propositioned by some black guys, whom I suspected were G4P, but I’ve no idea what they did or what they charged. I’m told there is a whole scene of Cape Coloured guys - don’t criticise me, that’s the term they use about themselves; they are mixed race - involved in male prostitution and servicing black men at the main railway station (a very high crime risk zone). Also, some educated Cape Coloured guys studying at university discreetly seek ‘sugar daddies’ in the bars and clubs to finance their studies. I thought I’d post this in the Africa section too in case anyone searches in future.

As I wrote earlier, in Spain ‘morbo’ refers to kinky sex. It’s an over-used term and can mean many things, like describing a man as ‘hot’. One man’s kink can be vanilla to another man.

Yes @Craftybutcher I’ve known this to happen before. The romance I know of was a middle-aged closeted ex-Army officer going on holiday to Brazil...and coming back to the UK with a slim young 21year old as his live-in boyfriend. The problems emerged later. The boyfriend couldn’t work legally and as he came from a poor background, he delighted in the ready availability of fresh food, unlimited baked goods and desserts. The slim 21year old soon morphed into a very fat 25year old and the middle-aged guy was less and less enamoured of his boyfriend’s rapidly expanding waistline.

Perhaps Rodolfo could solve the problem of overcrowding by simply restricting entry to two groups: fit-bodied garotos aged 18+ and only foreign clients aged 55+. It seems an easier solution to me ;-)

I hope others can help you @adamdub I was in Maui on vacation a few years ago. I thought it was a very beautiful place where you can access the wilderness easily and there are some terrific hikes. I strongly suggest that if you will be looking for company, you should take a companion with you. There are some nice beaches but we didn’t find any “bars or hotspots”, but to be fair we weren’t looking for such. We did stumble on a very nice gay-friendly place off the Hana highway, and the locals we met and talked to had a ‘live and let live’ attitude. That said, I doubt that a gay singleton would have a wild social time unless you happen to encounter another gay singleton on vacation.

Nice cathedral. Very good restaurants. For other pleasures, you may have to travel. Düsseldorf is only 23 minutes away by express train, and it has CityBoys which terms itself a “House of Boys”.

I don’t know about Colombia but I do know that in Spain, ‘morbo’ is used to refer to kinky sex. Of course, exactly what is kinky has to be defined.

London and Zurich may be equally popular.

Hello BB aka @pd1jap I can’t help with current guys, but I do know Buenos Aires well from having spent a year there. Assuming you can speak Spanish well, it’s easy to meet guys (working and non-working). Argentines do set great store on being in-shape (tho this may be less important to a rentboy) and being well-dressed in public. You can see a selection of working guys on various sites (eg soytuyo) but be aware the photos may be old. There are numerous ‘telos’, hotels with decent facilities that rent rooms by the hour, in Recoleta. There is a lot of info on Argentina in various threads on this site. Please be aware of the high level of street crime and robbery, and be savvy about carrying/wearing valuables and using public transport. You state you will be ‘staying in Palermo’ but you will need to be much more specific in making arrangements. There are several neighbourhoods named Palermo. There is Palermo Chico, which is a district of rich families generally. And there are Palermo Soho and Palermo Hollywood which are middle-class areas (some fancy parts and some newly-gentrified) with various restaurants and many boutiques.

No offence @NoGagSuckerSF but why include this in a thread about the relocation of Lagoa? You’re likely to get more responses if you put your enquiry in a separate thread.

Interesting thread @BlkSuperman I really enjoyed 3somes and 4gies when single. I favour every couple openly discussing their sexual needs and desires. If something works for that couple, so be it. The opinions of others are simply irrelevant. But in a relationship, I’m monogamous - OK I’m a serial monogamist. It suits my partner and me.

It’s fair - and I’d guess, usual - to ask about bottom/top/versatile. The rest seems inappropriate to me @Kieran. You would ordinarily ask about these matters in private with the guy you’ve chosen. No manager can know exactly what each guy will do or not do in private. My ‘take’ on your report is that perhaps the manager thought you were a guy who just wanted to talk about sex, look at the guys and then possibly not hire, ie a time-waster. It would explain the unusual request for money upfront. I’m glad the money was readily returned to you before you left.

You’re not alone @RA1 I am very particular about “who I ride on” but that’s me, I’m a demanding top with a dominant streak. Also I am very fussy about which airlines I use. Safety records do differ.

Hallelujah! True and I so agree @SolaceSoul There seems to be a surprising number of young men who value and want a mature companion.

Very true @SolaceSoul Perhaps I should have said “claim to be 25-35”. I have known personally 2 such men aged 42/45 yet claiming to be a decade younger. They worked relentlessly to maintain superb physiques. Each man had mental health issues as they aged and, unlike Cher, they could not “turn back time”.

You describe it well @Riobard but then I have always thought that Circuit parties are for fit, muscled guys in the 25-35 age range to meet each other. Mykonos has always attracted that crowd and being much older, I wasn’t bothered. Interestingly enough I met there some good looking younger men (21-30) who were very dismissive of the gay steroidal overbuilt crowd (their terms).

I’m glad you had a great time @Badboy81 I’d just add to your comment on the prices on the island that it is VERY expensive, more costly than even in prime spots in the South of France. I agree that the island is extremely gay-friendly, but it’s no longer primarily a gay resort. It is nowadays just as popular with a straight crowd, so a lot of the male eye-candy is heterosexual. I only went once and that was with an attractive younger companion; my impression was that the buff men were interested in other buff men; and there were very few working guys - I chatted to one (a fit young Brazilian) who was there as a vacation-rental by an older man.

I remember Rodi Bar from years ago. I was taken there by an older local; it was cheap but not the greatest food (by foreign standards). I was told then that it was so popular with old regulars that you had to reserve or be prepared to eat dinner early. Thank you for your reports @Latbear4blk May I also ask what time are locals generally eating lunch and dinner in the week? When I was last there, I used to go for lunch at 1.30pm and dinner at 9.30pm (and 10.30pm or later at the weekend) but I noticed (and waiters confirmed) that locals were eating dinner earlier due to the increased “insecurity”, as crime was referred to, late at night.

Interesting thread @RockHardNYC. I knew nothing of this and having some idle moments, I followed the link and read your comments. When I read of very minor celebrities like these 3 squabbling and feuding, I always wonder why they bother. Have they not learned that the rest of the world has no interest in what they say and think? As it relates to President Trump, it seems to me, as a foreigner, that he simply thrives on the attention and controversy. I confess that it may be evil of me but I enjoyed your description of Cohen - “I never liked Andy Cohen because he's a cheap gay man. Self-centered, too. I view him as money-sucking TV scum.” So much so that I was tempted to ask you to say what you really think of him!

Yes. Many guys advertise there. It certainly helps to speak Spanish in making arrangements.

I’d very much like to hear your views on Km Zero after your visit Friday night, @Latbear4blk Km Zero is a famous and long-established bar/club. I never visited as I was told some years back that it’s in a difficult location and the crowd is highly variable. I’ll be very interested to learn about the current mix of people who go there.

Great reports @Latbear4blk Thank you!

Of the friends and others I know (aged 21-50) in Barcelona, almost no-one visits the saunas. I’ve heard of a couple of saunas being places where young bottoms go to meet older bears. But if you’re here during the Circuit Festival, I think you’ll find it difficult to find a venue where there is NO sex taking place - even the daytime party at the water park is famed for the amount of sex occurring in the open.

IME Yes, there are many such twinks. There is great inequality in incomes and wealth in Argentina. Alongside the economic difficulties of recent years, with severe currency weakness, there has been rampant inflation. (I see the current rate of consumer price inflation of 57% annually is expected to fall to 37% by year-end). The result of all this economic upheaval is that many are not particularly well-fed, so many young men are slender or thin and not particularly tall. Inevitably in Buenos Aires I found that I stood out as tall despite only being 6ft in height. I always enjoyed dating handsome young men who had fit, nicely muscled bodies; almost all of them came from families in the ‘high bourgeoisie’ (as it’s termed in Argentina).

Just one note of caution before you go: make sure you have been properly vaccinated against measles. There is a massive outbreak in the Ukraine, with more than 100,000 cases reported since 2017. Measles is highly contagious and (although rare, at more than 1 in 1000) it can lead to fatal complications. 39 deaths have been recorded so far since the outbreak began in 2017.