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Hi anyone tried this agency before? https://www.jam-2014.com/cast/

Looks like a good lineup of guys 😳

Oh ya I have, on a previous trip. It's the same as the others. Ryohei is as cute as he looks in his pics.

Filipino men are cut, poorly.
Thai men are uncut, usually.

Filipino men are on average, thicker and shorter in penis size.
Thai men are on average, thinner and longer in penis size.

Filipino men tend to have a bit of chubbiness, even when fit.
Thai men then to be thinner, even when fit.

Filipino men don't have as many tattoos.
Thai men typically have a few.

Filipino men will manipulate and lie to you, but they believe they are being honest. Delusion.
Thai men will manipulate and lie to you, but they are well aware of what they are doing. Tactic.

Filipino men are ashamed to be filipino.
Thai men are proud to be thai.

Filipino men fall in love before you even meet them.
Thai men fall in love after you fuck them.

Filipino men will rarely ask for money, being around a white person is enough for them because they value whiteness and mediocrity over anything else. Thanks colonization.
Thai men don't see white people as anything other than what they are, tourists.

Filipino men will fight tooth and nail to convince you that PH is the best country on the planet, all the while claiming to be "mixed."
Thai men don't give a shit what you think, Thailand is already great.
Filipino men will stretch the truth on everything, and romanticize even the most trivial things.
Thai men don't care to impress you, they are more curious.

I could go on for years. They are nothing alike.

I can confirm that Chillax massage, Relax and 9-teen boy all got Line accounts where you can make reservations if you like and see pictures. Reservations are not needed for those shops however. 

Perhaps you should try to put together your own report before making such uncharitable, to put it mildly , comment.
Sure , reports are of varied quality but also readers expectation may be different, some may be looking for juicy details, others for practical leads about accommodation, where to go, to eat or how organize their vacation day.  Some like short , up to a point stories , other may be looking for longer narratives but one thing is sure : we should be grateful that members are taking their time and effort to put something together for us.
Specially hats off for those who take chunk from their vacation time to update us on their adventures in almost real time.
Tedious is process of writing report  , not easily avoidable treat, even if doubtful  of reading it.
 fully agree with this part though

Sound something different compared to June, is that Big Cock show they completed naked or with underwear? 
If you mind to share the number of Mr. Cutesmile to catch a look next visit.

I have put up a new map at https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2022/08/01/memory-lane-and-a-new-silom-surawong-map-july-2022/  You will need to scroll down to the bottom of the post to see it. Hope it's useful to you.

I think a discussion about MB rates must be a sharing of experiences. To give others (specially newbies) and idea on what to expect. We don't have to judge each other on what we pay a MB.
Some of us might have a bit more to spent than others. Why would that not be oke? Good for the MB! 
But in general I myself find I very useful to have an idea of the "going rates". General difference between Pattaya and Bangkok. And between different bars (for example Moonlight and Jupiter vs DreamBoy). 
But in the end its all up to you and the MB on what rate you agree on. And also totally up to you to maybe add some extra tip for outstanding service and performance on top of the agreed rate... 

Just to piggy back on the power bank. I believe Bangkok airports is one of the rare airport (or maybe China, I can’t remember now that China borders are practically cut off from the rest of the world) that have a strict regulation on power bank as a carry on. I have been through on a number of airport security and the security handling agents do not really bother on power banks that are hand carried. However in Bangkok through my limited experience the security handling agents would inspect them to ensure that they are not over 32,000mAh. So do ensure that the battery specification are labeled or risk getting them confiscated.  

Day 6.75: If you Think of Happiness, Think of Tawan

The title is the tagline that has permeated my brain ever since I first heard it in 2014. It is also the prominent tagline in one of the last fliers I’ve seen from a Bangkok boy bar back in 2019:

Having physical fliers nowadays seems pretty quaint in today’s all digital world. Kind of like those business cards that I’ve had printed whenever I go to work conferences or work travel. Nowadays it’s just “add me on LinkedIn,” and coupled with the phone app, I must admit, is a way more efficient way to send your contacts to another professional. The analog to boy bars and fliers is the social media presence. Moonlight is the king of this, doing regular Facebook lives to give us an almost daily reminder of its existence. Fliers are nice to hold in your hand but to also ultimately throw away with the rest of your airline boarding passes (another example of something going digital) after your trip. Social media notifications however, are eternally pushy, to the point that one gets numb to their existence.
I can say that Tawan as a Boy Bar falls into this “pretty quaint” category in the grand scheme of boy bars in Bangkok. Yes, it has tried to modernize a bit, as evidenced with its growing social media presence, since everyone is doing it. And they were giving out Tawan-branded alcohol gel to sanitize your hands. But generally Tawan has stayed true to what it has always been. Still the same muscular guys who some have probably been there 10+ years (and calling it a BOY bar is a misnomer). Still the same tired gogo numbers. Still the same chuck wow act that admittedly has the wow factor for newcomers, but as a veteran myself, find the tips pushing a little grating. Indeed, Tawan was showing its age even when I first started visiting 8 years ago. Going to it nowadays is like getting into a time machine, harkening back to a Bangkok that was grittier, dirtier, and maybe more fun(?), instead of the Disney-fied tourist paradise it is now.
But even if you are not attracted to Tawan’s brand of boys - the rugged older muscular daddy types with the occasional pumped up younger pups - you have to admire its stubbornness to keep true to its identity, despite the success of the more recent crop of flashier, more popular, and better-attended bars that cater to the lowest common denominator: to try to appeal to everyone by sacrificing individuality. It’s like what gentrification has done to the character of our urban spaces, or former gayborhoods paving the way to kids in strollers instead of gays in tutus, Tawan still clings to its identity – even if it is to a smaller audience. Count me in as a fan, even after all this years.
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It is now 11:20 PM, and I head back to Tawan to hang out there while Tiago delivers my luggage back to the house. I figure he’ll at least be gone 30 minutes, accounting for the round trip back to here, so it’ll give me time to get to know the men of Tawan. Upon entering, the last of the numbers was ending, and at this point, the boys were milling around the room, and the stage, trying to get a sale. I head over to my old seat, and order a new drink. Rum coke as usual – and boy was it really strong. They know how to dose their drinks!
I survey the landscape and I see probably about 10 boys still around, with about 5 I can see having fun with. At this point I wasn’t necessarily looking for a bottom, just someone who I can do a “muscle worship” session, like with some nice foreplay, and maybe someone to top me. I’m not sure Tiago will be up for anyone here, because I know what he likes, and he is not a mega slut like I am (even accounting for his Brazilian-ness). There are a million other bottoms out there in the boy bar landscape. I’m here for the muscle.

Pretty soon, one of the muscular hunks sits beside me (let’s call him 1). I am guessing he is early 30s. Very very muscular, as in like one of the guys in the photo above. He had a nice face, classic asian features. He extends a hand to shake mine. He asks for my name, and then asks where I am from (I get “but you are Asian” reaction, maybe it’s just easier to say I am from some generic Asian place), and the other stock questions. He didn’t ask for a drink or anything, but he did take my hand to guide it to his groin. He was direct, which bodes well for me. I take liberty to squeeze the muscles, and he gives me a light massage on my neck and shoulders.
Another equally muscular man heads over to me (let’s call him 2), and then sits on my other free side, opposite the guy who is massaging me. He is handsome, muscular cut, probably 4% body fat, and very strong thighs and nice abs. He tells me he has seen me before (no doubt), and asks me if I was well and all that. The massaging guy interjects something in Thai to the guy, and it seems there was a little argument going. They settle down and now the other guy is massaging me. I’m getting the treatment from both guys. They are angling for tips, which is fine, that’s why I’m here.
Now 2 becomes even more direct. He puts his hand in my shorts, and expertly massages my groin until I am at attention. Again, very direct and showing really good signs here. I am glad I am semi-secluded by the stage from other customers, otherwise I’d be a little bit modest. 2 then puts his hand in my shorts and massges my cock. Wow, is this normal here? 2 then lifts up my shirt to suck on one of my nipples. Darn, this is really direct and, sudden. LOL. Not that I am not enjoying. I am also glad that I’ve had two of the strong rum cokes to make me a little bit less inhibited. 
So before things got out of hand, I ask 2 how much for short time. He stops the sucking of the nipples and the hand job to think about it, and quotes 3000, but with a sour face. That was odd. And I am not beyond paying 3000 if the sex was good, but at the time, found the price a little bit steep. 1 was just staring into space, probably incensed that he was customer-blocked by 2. The captain goes to me and asks me if I wanted to off both guys. I hesitated, not sure about all this. The captain then says that they have a room upstairs if I wanted to do the deed here. That was interesting, though I don’t think the two I have are into that idea.
I get a text from Tiago, saying he is ready to come back. Oh that’s right Tiago is with me still lol. I get a Grabtaxi for him and send him a screenshot of the Grabtaxi detail so he knows which taxi to take.  I seriously haven’t thought about the logistics of me doing a short time session without Tiago, but now I will need to think about with these two musclemen beside me.  Though I was eager to open my luggage at home and check if my stuff was still in there, since Bangkok Airways opened it.  
When the captain leaves, 2 asks me when I will leave Thailand. I tell him three days from now. I then ask him if he does home visits. 2 says yes, and asks me when and where I wanted it to do it with him. I think about it and say before dinner tomorrow, around 5 pm. That’ll give Tiago and I time to do our errands in the day, and then sex with 2, and then dinner. 2 then wakes 1 up from his reverie, and then utters a few sentences in Thai, and 1 seems to agree with 1. 2 then talks in English to me, saying that 1 can also come, and it will be 2000 each. A threesome with Tawan hunks? That was new. I immediately say yes, and upon exchanging Line, I set a date for them.
After more strokes from 2 (I am close to cumming) and some massages from 1, I get a text from Tiago. He said he just got dropped off Soi Than Tawan and is heading back to Tawan. Since I had a date with the two Tawan guys tomorrow, no need to have them suffer further. I take out 500 baht for each guy, and they seem pleased with the tips, and confirmed the time with me again tomorrow. Pretty soon I see Tiago emerge from the door of Tawan. 1 and 2 say their goodbyes. I'm still seated, because I still had a hard on, and waited for it to die down, though the sight of Tiago heading back to sit with me certainly didn’t help. I told Tiago what transpired, and broke the news of the 5 pm rendezvous with the Tawan guys tomorrow. He seemed unfazed by this. He told me he opened the luggage and all seemed to be in order. I was relieved.
When I have calmed down, we decide to head over to Patpong again to check out what’s up there. Upon arriving at Hot Male, the tout there welcomes us again, and we talk for a bit about the crowd he’s seen so far. He says it has been picking up, but they have a ways to go from pre-COVID days. He then asks us if we wanted to go in the club. I told him maybe not. He insisted, saying that since there is not a show anymore at 12 midnight, he is going to charge us only 250 baht each, and we can check out the boys. That was a good deal. 
So that’s what we do, another late night Hot Male visit. There was still about 5 sets of customers in the vicinity, with boys sitting with them. There was about 5 boys onstage, and they were pretty nice looking. Tiago puts his head on my shoulder, probably signaling he is ready for some cuddles. No boy was really screaming at me to be offed, though there was one delicious one that I entertained the idea of offing for a minute but ultimately I didn't invite him to sit with us. One by one, the customers leave. And before we knew it, it was 1 AM, and it was time to leave. We see the boys putting on clothes, and the staff slowly clean up the bar. We pay 250 each as promised.
As we leave Hot Male, I take a few snaps of the surrounding bars. Some closed, some abandoned. I was still looking for some kind of entertainment at this hour, but were was Screw Boy when you need it?


I ask Tiago if he wanted to go to a club, maybe to see if G.O.D. is open, I wasn’t sure. Tiago said no. He just wanted a Netflix and chill after all the luggage saga today. So that’s what we do.
For there was two muscular men to contend with tomorrow, next post…

From my limited experience with the massage scene in Bangkok and with my communication with my regular boys, some of the boys work as freelancers. They would share their photo with what they call as managers or what we commonly know as mamasan. 
 
I was initially very confuse when I noticed there were duplication of the boys images in some of the line chat group of the massage shops. But soon I was educated by one of the freelancer that he distributes his photo to the various shops. 
 
Some of them can also be found on popular apps such as Grindr so you may contact them directly.
Earlier this year due to the pandemic it is normal that all the boys ‘work from home’ and are only activated when there is a booking. There are some of the boys who also hold a full time job and will only be activated when they do have a booking.
There are some boys who are exclusive to a shop but there are quite a percentage that are also butterflies (not just us). 

From my limited experience with the massage scene in Bangkok and with my communication with my regular boys, some of the boys work as freelancers. They would share their photo with what they call as managers or what we commonly know as mamasan. 
 
I was initially very confuse when I noticed there were duplication of the boys images in some of the line chat group of the massage shops. But soon I was educated by one of the freelancer that he distributes his photo to the various shops. 
 
Some of them can also be found on popular apps such as Grindr so you may contact them directly.
Earlier this year due to the pandemic it is normal that all the boys ‘work from home’ and are only activated when there is a booking. There are some of the boys who also hold a full time job and will only be activated when they do have a booking.
There are some boys who are exclusive to a shop but there are quite a percentage that are also butterflies (not just us). 

From my limited experience with the massage scene in Bangkok and with my communication with my regular boys, some of the boys work as freelancers. They would share their photo with what they call as managers or what we commonly know as mamasan. 
 
I was initially very confuse when I noticed there were duplication of the boys images in some of the line chat group of the massage shops. But soon I was educated by one of the freelancer that he distributes his photo to the various shops. 
 
Some of them can also be found on popular apps such as Grindr so you may contact them directly.
Earlier this year due to the pandemic it is normal that all the boys ‘work from home’ and are only activated when there is a booking. There are some of the boys who also hold a full time job and will only be activated when they do have a booking.
There are some boys who are exclusive to a shop but there are quite a percentage that are also butterflies (not just us). 

That is all very well, commendable even, but as I said in an earlier post, if one is asked about the "going rate" in a visitor-oriented message board, I think it is only fair to give the "going rate" rather than the "generous guy" rate.
You can urge generosity if you want, even say the "going rate" is far too low if you like,  but I think if people make a regular habit of giving the answer that they think should be given, rather than the actual answer, to such questions, it will only cause the board to lose credibility in the long run.

right ! It was time when I was one of them , LOL
I even know somebody who offed him very recently and is extremely satisfied with experience.
Different people are looking for different things , be it muscle, bulge,  ass, face , personality, bed or massage skills  and any combination of those.
Even with our own preferences at times we can be in the mood to spice life with change. Certain KFC man likes hunks but is known to off twinks , even up to three a bed as was seen kissing with very diminutive Lao guy.
Over year I dragged few members , known twink lovers to Tawan, some run away screaming , some surprised themselves with liking the experience even if not necessarily guys on display there.
Sure Min has a point , what kind of model  chubby guy is ? ,  but  all that model game at Moonlight is just a spectacle , not a talent agency jamboree.
 

Day 5
Dum was great  and earned 500 bonus in the morning. We went to Foodland  for a breakfast, staff seeing me so often with different guys started smiling knowingly and that grin will not leave their faces for next 2 weeks.
After that I went for a stroll to Lumpini park and from there by elevated walkway over canal to Benakiti park still under construction. At one time in future it will be proper park, now is lacking shade here and there but I liked  lake in the middle and running track around it. Easy to get to by public transport as it’s close to Queen Sirikit MRT station and it’s how I returned to Raya to pack and move to Baan Silom in soi 3.
Room was not ready so I left my suitcase and went again , now having proper location , to see business of former model X I met few times in Dec and have strong hope to be able to repeat feast this trip. It was quite a trip all the way to Samut Prakan, first by BTS to Samrong and then by taxi to the mall where his  business is located. He saw me from the distance , warm embraces , treated  me with his  product, in fact let me prepare it by myself behind the counter under his watchful eye.
I don’t remember who was first to suggest it but we agreed to meet in my room in the evening after shop will close as we need to discuss receipts he is using.
I mentioned before   one of our member is recommending certain masseur he managed to find when he was in BKK earlier and since I trust his judgement I gave it serious consideration , contacted guy in question who said will be free today but price he quoted me, 4000 for 2 hr massage in house freeze me. But member  told me he is worth it with exclamation mark so what choice I had. Asked guy , Phakin is his name to come .
I can see screams from economizing readers about that racket but if I trust somebody , I do. And yes , as promised it was worth it. Massage was very thorough and professional, at the same time entertaining as he turned out to be talkative with good English and  with personality comparable to that of certain Z , star of my 2019 trips some of my readers may recall and great sense of humor ‘if somebody fucked me I land in hospital sure”. Not only skills are great  but he is quite handsome and very, very well furnished. So after massage was over we had our share of fun or at least certainly I had.
I’m glad my cheap side did not prevail because by economizing I’d be losing chance of one of most memorable massage sessions in my 22 trips. Sorry guys I raised your blood pressure for paying that much for  massage  but believe me , I know what it means money well spent.
After he left I went to soi 4 to treat myself with another schnitzel at G’Bangkok. From there to Hot Male downstairs where paulsf was already there and reader who just arrived in Bangkok today after 2 years covid hiatus showed soon  .We had lots to catch up and we did although I was kind of distracted by one of their host , diminutive Laotian who seem to like me indeed. Surely he got  a drink and  200 inside of his jeans when I went back to hotel around 10 pm   because X lined me that he closed shop and is on his way.
Another case when I was glad to forget about economy since he  charges as guy of his built and charm , whatever it means , should. Absolute gem as far as I’m concerned, talkative , easy going and outside of his few limits, very social so to speak. One of those who on the spot understand what customers likes and what makes him hot. It was past 2 am. when he left so our short time was not that short.
Well heated I decided that spending rest of the night alone would be mistake I fired Grindr and found somebody in vicinity who agreed to share my bed till morning for 1500, yes,  just to share by bed.
It turned to be funny story which I already reported here :
https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/37804-my-funny-apps-story-from-last-night/
And here’s just copy and paste of what I wrote then:
Last night at 2 am  or so after my companion left I decided that is too scary to sleep alone and I need somebody if only to warm the bed and embrace me in my sleep, in short, no particular requirement and even brother of Hunchback  of Notre Dame will do. 
So fired Grindr and it was somebody shown at 58 meters away, still online. Actually nice, good looking and at 178  not too short so I sent a message, answer come right away agreeing to complete the night from now till whenever. I gave location and stated that I will be waiting in front of hotel.
And so I went downstairs looking right and left to a completely deserted soi for somebody to show but it was still empty. In about 5 minutes somebody appeared emerging from  my hotel. That was a guy actually better looking than  on an app. Turned out that he is in the same hotel. So via 7/11 we returned there, in elevator it  turned we are staying on the same floor and when  I asked what room you are staying, it was revealed that it was one opposite of mine with our heads leaning at the same wall, just from other side.
So distance of 58 meters really was more like 28 centimeters. Who would think I was so well positioned? 
And good news is, I wasn't asked for taxi money!!! 
Easy money for him as I really wanted just somebody to embrace and pleasure for me as he was better looking and gave better feel than I expected based on Grindr pics. To complete day 5 , in the morning I invited him for breakfast triggering another round of knowing  smiles by stuff at Foodland