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I was disappointed that we missed each other too. Maybe on your 13th trip.

I have sad tidings to bring. I went for the third time last night, accompanied by an English gent I met at Dream Boys. I told him not to hold his breath, but he agreed to come with me. There was one customer there, no lip syncers and there were two guys on stage, one being the bodybuilder and the other being the slim, ripped guy. No sign of the untoned boy. Maybe he is still with the aforementioned ASIAN gent. At least I managed to get Arthur to do a full monty on stage. I wanted to support the club and I want it to succeed, but you just don't open a bar if you don't have a full stable of guys. I don't want to put anyone off from going, but that's the reality. But, if you do go, Tae the bodybuilder will happily let you feel up his muscles.

Just to make clear, you absolutely do not have to buy drinks for anyone, apart for yourself, at the bars, unless you choose to. I have never heard of anyone skipping the massage. I had a massage at Arena today before a handjob, and I actually felt revitalized afterwards.

Vinapu, I will go there one more time and report back. They really appreciated our two attendances there. No, I didn't off Tae as I already had in mind to go to Tawan and off one of my regulars there instead, which I certainly ended up doing.

Hopefully there will be a fuller line up of boys tonight. Vinapu and I were treated like royalty and 400baht for a drink is competitive pricing. But they really must do their homework, ie, advertise on every social media site, fix up the sign and let the high volume foot traffic be totally aware of what is going on upstairs. And having boys who will draw in the customers PS Vinapu is a great guy and very generous with the boys too

No, Wild Cat was a bar for men to ogle at women, but has since closed. So White Cat, now in the same venue, needs to get its act together and at least change the signage before doing anything else.

Well, last night I decided to check out (for the second time) whether White Cat had opened. At 1045pm I decided to call it a day as there was no sign of life and the door remained closed. However, I saw a drag queen I recognized from Atlas, who exited the bar and returned within a few minutes, so I guess that it will open, but when is a mystery still to be solved.

And those of us who holiday here.

I'm disappointed that your experience at Quarter Saladaeng wasn't up to scratch. To be honest, the breakfast buffet area seems to have halved in size since I first stayed there. But it is great to have easy access to Lumpini Park. Enjoy the rest of your holiday.

Both gyms have cafe settings, but I think the Pattaya seating is better, as you can sit inside or out on the deck And if you can't see any eye candy at either gym, it's a bad day. By the way, the fees aren't cheap. More like Western prices.

Yes, both gyms have cardio equipment upstairs. If you did go to Muscle Factory Bangkok, you might consider going afterwards to Krubb sauna at Phra Khanong, one BTS station away, to unwind!

To To be honest they are both out of the way. If I'm staying in Silom I get the BTS to On Nut station and it's about a 20 minute walk from there. To get to the Pattaya gym, it's a pleasant walk from Dongtang beach along the seafront, maybe taking 25 minutes. I could use Bolt, but they are both easy walks.

It's called Muscle Factory and also has another, more modern branch in Pattaya. It is a magnet for quite a few bodybuilders who are attracted by the availability of steroids in Thailand. You can buy daily, weekly, monthly and yearly passes. Heaps of equipment. No air-conditioning, just fans, but not too much of a problem at this time of the year.

I'm attracted to masculine men. Lady boys do nothing for me

Probably GoldMember has already booked his accommodation, but I would like to share my accommodation experience. Agoda has been a lifesaver for me. When I am in Bangkok I alternate my accommodation between Silom area and On Nut, where I like to go to a famous gym there. Last year in the low season I planned my itinerary according to the prices on Agoda. When there was a special deal, I would book Quarter Silom and occasionally Tarntawan, when QS was a lot more expensive. The weekends made the prices skyrocket in Silom, so I would go back for a few days to On Nut, which is considerably cheaper. This year I did the same, even though I suspected that the time of the year might catch me out. But, no, I was shocked to discover that if I played my cards right, I could get great deals if I booked according to the prices (which could vary considerably), and used any Agoda enticements. Ok, I don't use American currency, but to put things in perspective, I got accommodation at Quarter Silom for between $US70-75 a night. Now that's not too bad, when you consider they have a gym, steam room, sauna, swimming pool, rooftop sunbathing and close proximity to the scene. You can also get a breakfast buffet for 245 baht and there is a good selection. So, if you can put up with a fairly poky room, I think it's value for money. And you never have a hassle taking a guy to your room. I always book Quarter Saladaeng at the beginning of my holiday, as it helps me to unwind after a long trip and it's close to Lumpini Park.

From the information given in this thread, I understood it would be opening on Sunday, so I went along to check it out. People must have thought who is this weirdo wandering backwards and forwards. One of the Tawan boys was negative about his boss and I know that some of the boys had already left Atlas to return to Tawan. Last year I suggested to the boss that they needed to advertise the times of the shows, etc. Anyway, the sign is up now and I guess it's just a matter of time

In the interest of doing research for this board, and completely not for any sense of self gratification on my part, I decided to amend my travel plans and report back on this auspicious occasion, ie the opening of the White Cat bar. So I arrived at Patpong at 8pm and had my usual chicken and basil rice from a stall with young ladies who are really delightful and always know what my menu choice is. And from there it was back and forth to check out the bar. There was a single chair at the bottom of the stairs, but I never saw anyone sitting on it. Sometimes the door was open and sometimes it was closed. Looking back, I guess I should have just walked up the stairs just to be nosey and try to find out what was going on. Anyway, I left at 10 30pm, but hopefully when I return to Bangkok, it will have already been officially opened. It is on the left hand side of Patpong, walking up from Silom and is discreetly located between 2 "pussy" bars. Atlas should have been a winner. From what I have heard it was mismanaged.

Thanks for the recommendation Olddaddy. It certainly has great reviews and seems good value. What I like about QS is that I get upgraded more often than not, when available, which is a real bonus.

Hey, Durian. I wonder if you gave arrived at Quarter Saladaeng yet. If you are interested, there are orchestral concerts in Lumpini Park at 530pm on Sundays. I've always enjoyed staying at QS and I hope you have an enjoyable stay.

I frequent both Pattaya and Bangkok. Pattaya is easier on the pocket in many ways, Jomtien Beach is good for the soul and, besides, my nephew married a Thai lady from Pattaya. Bangkok equally has so many advantages, but my heart is with the muscle boys, so I spend more time in Bangkok than anywhere else.

I agree with Than Tawan for a selection of muscle boys. Other forum members endorse Arena for muscle massage. I haven't been there yet, but plan to on my next visit

Whenever I have stayed at the Tarntawan, I have requested back rooms (looking towards Silom), as they are surprisingly quiet). The breakfasts weren't as good as Quarter Silom, but you can always pop over to QS or Foodland for breakfast, anyway. I haven't stayed at Surawong 56, but I used their laundry last year and the lady at reception was absolutely lovely and she couldn't have been more helpful.

Could this become a pinned post? It would be great for members planning to come next year and beyond

Thank you jimmie50 IMHO you have hit the nail on the head. From my maybe limited understanding, and having brought this up with a couple of the barboys, I imagine that most of the takings remain in management's pockets. Of course there could be an advantage to giving a sob story to a client in order to try to obtain a few more hundred baht, but I am sure that without being offed, you will not be getting a satisfactory financial reward.

If you can handle the heat, Quarter Saladaeng is certainly within walking distance of the bars. I have had very good rates there too when booking through Agoda. Quarter Silom has the advantage of being just a hop, skip and a jump away from my preferred bars, but I find the restaurant and pool areas quite sterile there and I much prefer the layout at Quarter Saladaeng. I have found their restaurant staff to be very friendly too.