hornyfrog

It’s going to get a bit more difficult to book an Airbnb in Brazil (especially in high-traffic / tourism areas like Rio), and even harder if you want to use the Airbnb as place to bring guests not on the reservation.
Earlier this month, in a pivotal case, the Superior Tribunal de Justiça (STJ) decided that rental of residential property in condominium buildings by Airbnb and other short-term / seasonal rentals now must require the authorization of 2/3 of the building’s condominium owners.
https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/politica/noticia/2026/05/09/stj-decide-que-aluguel-de-imovel-residencial-em-condominio-por-airbnb-depende-de-autorizacao-de-dois-tercos-dos-condominos.ghtml

The first post = infamous journalist - pornographer who also famously married a Brazilian garoto de programa. The Twitterverse and Datalounge had loads of fun with this exposé a few years ago. 

i understand why these guys let this happen to them! like everyone they want to be loved! many have never felt that emotion in their lives but...when a “relationship” starts on a cash basis, I never have seen it become love on the $/younger guys part!  The best test i still think is if you want to test if he is really in love with you then tell him:
Older guy/Client “I have lost all my money in the stock market! but at lest we still have each other!”
Garoto:  Gone like the wind! :-)

Tri did not move to take care of his aging parents! he moved to the basement of his sisters house because he was broke! because of spending everything on his Brazilian BF!
no one moves to the basement of a home in kansas City after living in SF and Rio unless they are in dire straights! just saying!

It seems  that previous link   is broken since I rented . Here’s a link for you to check. Wonderful and very touching movie.
I’ve been swamped, and I thought  I posted this in a rush, but , I didn’t!  So here is again Also, I’ve got a long report saved as a draft, but I’m not great at keeping track . I’m hoping to find time to finish it before my Montreal trip 
After I watched the movie, I came up with this crazy idea about  where the Garoto de Programa storyline came from!
So, I’m thinking that the real inspiration for this movie might be Club 117. 
Here’s how the real Club 117 compares to the movie version:
In the movie, there’s a gay club called “Gloria” located at the same Rua Cândido Mendes. I don’t believe there’s a bar like that in Gloria, and even less likely, a bar with GPs. Additionally, the owner, a transgender woman, is called Monica instead of Monik, just like the owner of Club 117 isn’t crazy!  

I own an Airbnb apartment in Ipanema, so I will give the perspective of a local / investor — who is also quite familiar with why most traveling men who post at these message boards choose Rio.
In my neighborhood of Ipanema, as well as in Leblon and some grander parts of Copacabana (the big touristy areas), there have been some high-profile incidences involving Airbnbs / short-term rentals with some very bad actors — and a few of them ended up deadly, but most of them were violent robberies or home invasions. These have placed the other residents of the buildings in greater harm and risk, and it’s just another reason for those who hate the existence of short-term rentals to get city government involved. As a result, there is proposed city regulation on the table, and many of the condominium associations (they have group meetings) decided to be proactive and self-regulate, hoping to stem any potential laws restricting short-term rentals. Many buildings in the area, mine included, decided that they will place greater restrictions on short-term rentals — one of them being that only those who are registered as the Airbnb guests can have access to the building and apartment. Others have voted against allowing any short-term rentals at all. I would estimate that, in my area alone, in the past 2 years, over half of the buildings either added the no-guest policy for short-termers or banned short-term rentals altogether.
So, my advice is first, to carefully read the house rules of the listing before booking. If a listing does not allow guests, then the host needs either to place that in the rules in advance, or directly after booking, send you a message with any restrictions. if you find an Airbnb in the area that allows you to have guests, if that’s truly important to you, then you should book it — because they are much fewer and more far between in Rio than ever before. 
I also will add that this restriction has not reduced my bookings at all — and with less added risk. So, from the perspective of a host / investor, the threat of income loss from gay and straight male tourists who prefer the company of strangers is minimal to nil. 
And as a tourist that comes and goes, you should understand there are very good reasons why these rules are in place. Even with my listing explicitly saying up front “no guests”, I still get men (because it’s always men, gay or straight!) asking me the same old “can I have a Brazilian friend up for a drink?”. The answer is always no. Look before you book! 

When a CPF number or an ID number is “sunk” (dirty) in the Brazilian banking system (overdrawn, reported or suspected fraud, sometimes even theft), any Pix with that CPF number are suspended. Any deposits into that person’s account immediately go towards paying off the debt. Brazilians who ask for this are usually in this kind of situation. It’s best not to get involved at all. But there’s always the client who wants to be seen as Santa. 
 
 

I can see why you would resent use of the word oblivious. Perhaps it wasn't the right word. After all, you admitted in your first post on this thread that you were aware of Prep but didn't take it.  So let us consider your actions.  By not taking precautions you became infected with HIV and, by your own admission, had unprotected sex with many men...who knows how many you infected.  You also claim to love Brazillian men - what is your definition of love? Mine includes to care and to protect. That includes to care about, and to protect from HIV. 
Perhaps a better word is 'selfish'. Or perhaps 'irresponsible'. Maybe 'uncaring'.  I am not trying to be harsh, just keeping it real. Your actions have consequences.

@hornyfrog thank you. I did not look at it from that perspective at all. I mean I am not going to wreck a place by throwing a wild party. Also because of this forum I have learned by others experience. Who to bring back to your hotel or Airbnb. I want this experience to continue in Brazil. As well in other countries. Also I can understand why some countries don't want American expats in there country. Some Americans can be assholes. Also anything that dilutes Brazilian culture would be horrible. Thats the special sauce. 

This is turning into a very different conversation than the OP intended, and I don’t mean to thread jack.
But Barcelona, Spain, Lisbon, Portugal and Medellin, Colombia are all going through an anti-tourism, even anti-expat wave right now. Much of it is fueled by rising housing prices and costs of living, but some is also cultural — many non-locals seemingly disrespecting or disregarding local customs, etc. I am hyper-sensitive to this in Rio and other parts of Brazil, as a gringo expat here. I have yet to experience this much here, but I think it’s important to try to prevent it as much as possible: keep prices affordable for Brazilians, speak in the language, watch out for my Europeanisms / Americanisms. And call out bad behavior by my fellow non-Brazilians whenever I can and try to be a good ambassador / steward. After all, when they are all gone, I still have to live here — the tourists don’t. 

I own an Airbnb apartment in Ipanema, so I will give the perspective of a local / investor — who is also quite familiar with why most traveling men who post at these message boards choose Rio.
In my neighborhood of Ipanema, as well as in Leblon and some grander parts of Copacabana (the big touristy areas), there have been some high-profile incidences involving Airbnbs / short-term rentals with some very bad actors — and a few of them ended up deadly, but most of them were violent robberies or home invasions. These have placed the other residents of the buildings in greater harm and risk, and it’s just another reason for those who hate the existence of short-term rentals to get city government involved. As a result, there is proposed city regulation on the table, and many of the condominium associations (they have group meetings) decided to be proactive and self-regulate, hoping to stem any potential laws restricting short-term rentals. Many buildings in the area, mine included, decided that they will place greater restrictions on short-term rentals — one of them being that only those who are registered as the Airbnb guests can have access to the building and apartment. Others have voted against allowing any short-term rentals at all. I would estimate that, in my area alone, in the past 2 years, over half of the buildings either added the no-guest policy for short-termers or banned short-term rentals altogether.
So, my advice is first, to carefully read the house rules of the listing before booking. If a listing does not allow guests, then the host needs either to place that in the rules in advance, or directly after booking, send you a message with any restrictions. if you find an Airbnb in the area that allows you to have guests, if that’s truly important to you, then you should book it — because they are much fewer and more far between in Rio than ever before. 
I also will add that this restriction has not reduced my bookings at all — and with less added risk. So, from the perspective of a host / investor, the threat of income loss from gay and straight male tourists who prefer the company of strangers is minimal to nil. 
And as a tourist that comes and goes, you should understand there are very good reasons why these rules are in place. Even with my listing explicitly saying up front “no guests”, I still get men (because it’s always men, gay or straight!) asking me the same old “can I have a Brazilian friend up for a drink?”. The answer is always no. Look before you book! 

This is turning into a very different conversation than the OP intended, and I don’t mean to thread jack.
But Barcelona, Spain, Lisbon, Portugal and Medellin, Colombia are all going through an anti-tourism, even anti-expat wave right now. Much of it is fueled by rising housing prices and costs of living, but some is also cultural — many non-locals seemingly disrespecting or disregarding local customs, etc. I am hyper-sensitive to this in Rio and other parts of Brazil, as a gringo expat here. I have yet to experience this much here, but I think it’s important to try to prevent it as much as possible: keep prices affordable for Brazilians, speak in the language, watch out for my Europeanisms / Americanisms. And call out bad behavior by my fellow non-Brazilians whenever I can and try to be a good ambassador / steward. After all, when they are all gone, I still have to live here — the tourists don’t. 

I own an Airbnb apartment in Ipanema, so I will give the perspective of a local / investor — who is also quite familiar with why most traveling men who post at these message boards choose Rio.
In my neighborhood of Ipanema, as well as in Leblon and some grander parts of Copacabana (the big touristy areas), there have been some high-profile incidences involving Airbnbs / short-term rentals with some very bad actors — and a few of them ended up deadly, but most of them were violent robberies or home invasions. These have placed the other residents of the buildings in greater harm and risk, and it’s just another reason for those who hate the existence of short-term rentals to get city government involved. As a result, there is proposed city regulation on the table, and many of the condominium associations (they have group meetings) decided to be proactive and self-regulate, hoping to stem any potential laws restricting short-term rentals. Many buildings in the area, mine included, decided that they will place greater restrictions on short-term rentals — one of them being that only those who are registered as the Airbnb guests can have access to the building and apartment. Others have voted against allowing any short-term rentals at all. I would estimate that, in my area alone, in the past 2 years, over half of the buildings either added the no-guest policy for short-termers or banned short-term rentals altogether.
So, my advice is first, to carefully read the house rules of the listing before booking. If a listing does not allow guests, then the host needs either to place that in the rules in advance, or directly after booking, send you a message with any restrictions. if you find an Airbnb in the area that allows you to have guests, if that’s truly important to you, then you should book it — because they are much fewer and more far between in Rio than ever before. 
I also will add that this restriction has not reduced my bookings at all — and with less added risk. So, from the perspective of a host / investor, the threat of income loss from gay and straight male tourists who prefer the company of strangers is minimal to nil. 
And as a tourist that comes and goes, you should understand there are very good reasons why these rules are in place. Even with my listing explicitly saying up front “no guests”, I still get men (because it’s always men, gay or straight!) asking me the same old “can I have a Brazilian friend up for a drink?”. The answer is always no. Look before you book! 

This is turning into a very different conversation than the OP intended, and I don’t mean to thread jack.
But Barcelona, Spain, Lisbon, Portugal and Medellin, Colombia are all going through an anti-tourism, even anti-expat wave right now. Much of it is fueled by rising housing prices and costs of living, but some is also cultural — many non-locals seemingly disrespecting or disregarding local customs, etc. I am hyper-sensitive to this in Rio and other parts of Brazil, as a gringo expat here. I have yet to experience this much here, but I think it’s important to try to prevent it as much as possible: keep prices affordable for Brazilians, speak in the language, watch out for my Europeanisms / Americanisms. And call out bad behavior by my fellow non-Brazilians whenever I can and try to be a good ambassador / steward. After all, when they are all gone, I still have to live here — the tourists don’t. 

Not completely sure I’m understanding you, so maybe that makes two of us! What I meant by “stem” (maybe it was not the best choice of words) was starting self-regulation at the building level so that when or if it ever comes to a vote at the prefeitura (city hall) level, additional legislation would not pass because it would be deemed unnecessary or repetitive. Condo buildings and apartment buildings have their own rules that are voted on from within (by the owners), plus there are city, state and federal laws. I can’t speak to the wishes of every building in my area, but of the ones I do know, most owners would vote to keep short-term rentals as long as it is well self-regulated. But enough bad incidents with bad actors in the toniest, priciest areas of town — especially if given lots of bad press, and even more especially if they involve foreigners / Westerners! — will drive a vote at the government level for more restrictions. Possibly even “the death penalty” for short-term rentals, like what’s going on in Barcelona (although I don’t think this will happen, as there are too many local owners here who enjoy renting their places out).
Those regulations could include or exclude room-only rentals. I doubt they would. It is likely to be an “all or nothing” thing. The buildings like mine and the others I am aware of did not exclude rooms-only. And regarding buildings with no doormen, I imagine they would still have the same regulation, but enforcement would occur at a local resident or staff level (meaning, “if you see something, say something”). I do know of one Airbnb male guest who tried to “sneak in” an unregistered pro (female) into a doorman-less building, and after she left (after the deed was done), the owner was asked to remove the guest or be fined. That was probably a very embarrassing conversation for both the Airbnb host and the guest.
 

Your use of ‘stem’ was correct, I realize once you clarified, as that would aim to prevent municipal legislation on tourist homes steamrolling over the flexibility or specificity of regulations that each building would prefer to control. Stand-alone detached house owners, I assume a very small representation, would likely not want any interference. 
From what I understand, what is common between Rio and Barcelona is consideration of affordable housing inventory for locals, though in Rio the emphasis is preventing new multiple family dwelling projects from being undermined by the tourist home economy (I assume a very small proportion of total housing is represented by upcoming projects); in Barcelona the blanket ban goal by 2028 is to increase conventional rental inventory by even a small percentage across all zones (less socioeconomically stratified compared to Rio?) while attenuating the surge of tourism that many locals resent.
It appears that condo syndicates in Rio have strong authority in terms of banning ST rentals but the general and practical rule of thumb emerging globally is that both municipalities and condo entities must align in terms of allowing same. It makes sense, as you describe, to regulate internally via building governance and reduce the need for municipalities to exercise regulations for the sake of safety and security, based on headline-grabbing incidents, that seem to punitively override the prerogative of a condo co-owner collective. They can focus on things like tourist tax collection, host permit infrastructure if applicable, and land use legality such as zoning related to defined-purpose building projects. 
Prohibiting unregistered guests is a legal no-brainer since from the point of view of the insurance integrated into bookings it is stipulated that the paying booker is liable for damages incurred even by guests “registered” on the booking. Airbnb assiduously assesses incidents on a case-by-case basis for the sake of their own insurance premium management.  Hosts that cavalierly assert the home is yours to use absolutely at your discretion have not necessarily thought it through.

I own an Airbnb apartment in Ipanema, so I will give the perspective of a local / investor — who is also quite familiar with why most traveling men who post at these message boards choose Rio.
In my neighborhood of Ipanema, as well as in Leblon and some grander parts of Copacabana (the big touristy areas), there have been some high-profile incidences involving Airbnbs / short-term rentals with some very bad actors — and a few of them ended up deadly, but most of them were violent robberies or home invasions. These have placed the other residents of the buildings in greater harm and risk, and it’s just another reason for those who hate the existence of short-term rentals to get city government involved. As a result, there is proposed city regulation on the table, and many of the condominium associations (they have group meetings) decided to be proactive and self-regulate, hoping to stem any potential laws restricting short-term rentals. Many buildings in the area, mine included, decided that they will place greater restrictions on short-term rentals — one of them being that only those who are registered as the Airbnb guests can have access to the building and apartment. Others have voted against allowing any short-term rentals at all. I would estimate that, in my area alone, in the past 2 years, over half of the buildings either added the no-guest policy for short-termers or banned short-term rentals altogether.
So, my advice is first, to carefully read the house rules of the listing before booking. If a listing does not allow guests, then the host needs either to place that in the rules in advance, or directly after booking, send you a message with any restrictions. if you find an Airbnb in the area that allows you to have guests, if that’s truly important to you, then you should book it — because they are much fewer and more far between in Rio than ever before. 
I also will add that this restriction has not reduced my bookings at all — and with less added risk. So, from the perspective of a host / investor, the threat of income loss from gay and straight male tourists who prefer the company of strangers is minimal to nil. 
And as a tourist that comes and goes, you should understand there are very good reasons why these rules are in place. Even with my listing explicitly saying up front “no guests”, I still get men (because it’s always men, gay or straight!) asking me the same old “can I have a Brazilian friend up for a drink?”. The answer is always no. Look before you book! 

I own an Airbnb apartment in Ipanema, so I will give the perspective of a local / investor — who is also quite familiar with why most traveling men who post at these message boards choose Rio.
In my neighborhood of Ipanema, as well as in Leblon and some grander parts of Copacabana (the big touristy areas), there have been some high-profile incidences involving Airbnbs / short-term rentals with some very bad actors — and a few of them ended up deadly, but most of them were violent robberies or home invasions. These have placed the other residents of the buildings in greater harm and risk, and it’s just another reason for those who hate the existence of short-term rentals to get city government involved. As a result, there is proposed city regulation on the table, and many of the condominium associations (they have group meetings) decided to be proactive and self-regulate, hoping to stem any potential laws restricting short-term rentals. Many buildings in the area, mine included, decided that they will place greater restrictions on short-term rentals — one of them being that only those who are registered as the Airbnb guests can have access to the building and apartment. Others have voted against allowing any short-term rentals at all. I would estimate that, in my area alone, in the past 2 years, over half of the buildings either added the no-guest policy for short-termers or banned short-term rentals altogether.
So, my advice is first, to carefully read the house rules of the listing before booking. If a listing does not allow guests, then the host needs either to place that in the rules in advance, or directly after booking, send you a message with any restrictions. if you find an Airbnb in the area that allows you to have guests, if that’s truly important to you, then you should book it — because they are much fewer and more far between in Rio than ever before. 
I also will add that this restriction has not reduced my bookings at all — and with less added risk. So, from the perspective of a host / investor, the threat of income loss from gay and straight male tourists who prefer the company of strangers is minimal to nil. 
And as a tourist that comes and goes, you should understand there are very good reasons why these rules are in place. Even with my listing explicitly saying up front “no guests”, I still get men (because it’s always men, gay or straight!) asking me the same old “can I have a Brazilian friend up for a drink?”. The answer is always no. Look before you book! 

I own an Airbnb apartment in Ipanema, so I will give the perspective of a local / investor — who is also quite familiar with why most traveling men who post at these message boards choose Rio.
In my neighborhood of Ipanema, as well as in Leblon and some grander parts of Copacabana (the big touristy areas), there have been some high-profile incidences involving Airbnbs / short-term rentals with some very bad actors — and a few of them ended up deadly, but most of them were violent robberies or home invasions. These have placed the other residents of the buildings in greater harm and risk, and it’s just another reason for those who hate the existence of short-term rentals to get city government involved. As a result, there is proposed city regulation on the table, and many of the condominium associations (they have group meetings) decided to be proactive and self-regulate, hoping to stem any potential laws restricting short-term rentals. Many buildings in the area, mine included, decided that they will place greater restrictions on short-term rentals — one of them being that only those who are registered as the Airbnb guests can have access to the building and apartment. Others have voted against allowing any short-term rentals at all. I would estimate that, in my area alone, in the past 2 years, over half of the buildings either added the no-guest policy for short-termers or banned short-term rentals altogether.
So, my advice is first, to carefully read the house rules of the listing before booking. If a listing does not allow guests, then the host needs either to place that in the rules in advance, or directly after booking, send you a message with any restrictions. if you find an Airbnb in the area that allows you to have guests, if that’s truly important to you, then you should book it — because they are much fewer and more far between in Rio than ever before. 
I also will add that this restriction has not reduced my bookings at all — and with less added risk. So, from the perspective of a host / investor, the threat of income loss from gay and straight male tourists who prefer the company of strangers is minimal to nil. 
And as a tourist that comes and goes, you should understand there are very good reasons why these rules are in place. Even with my listing explicitly saying up front “no guests”, I still get men (because it’s always men, gay or straight!) asking me the same old “can I have a Brazilian friend up for a drink?”. The answer is always no. Look before you book! 

Oh Em Gee. How did I know exactly who you’re talking about? 😆
While the average client is certainly no male supermodel or physique competition champion — including yours truly — those creepy guys definitely bring down the group average! 😳
But my mother always said it’s what’s inside that counts….
 

Found the zombie! 

Oh Em Gee. How did I know exactly who you’re talking about? 😆
While the average client is certainly no male supermodel or physique competition champion — including yours truly — those creepy guys definitely bring down the group average! 😳
But my mother always said it’s what’s inside that counts….
 

Oh Em Gee. How did I know exactly who you’re talking about? 😆
While the average client is certainly no male supermodel or physique competition champion — including yours truly — those creepy guys definitely bring down the group average! 😳
But my mother always said it’s what’s inside that counts….
 

Oh Em Gee. How did I know exactly who you’re talking about? 😆
While the average client is certainly no male supermodel or physique competition champion — including yours truly — those creepy guys definitely bring down the group average! 😳
But my mother always said it’s what’s inside that counts….
 

Oh Em Gee. How did I know exactly who you’re talking about? 😆
While the average client is certainly no male supermodel or physique competition champion — including yours truly — those creepy guys definitely bring down the group average! 😳
But my mother always said it’s what’s inside that counts….