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I've found that many boy find it convenient because they plan to hang out with friends in Jomtien at the end of the night anyway.
Of you don't want to get a car, you can also get the Bhat bus (songthaews)

I've found that many boy find it convenient because they plan to hang out with friends in Jomtien at the end of the night anyway.
Of you don't want to get a car, you can also get the Bhat bus (songthaews)

It's possible to see the situation from his perspective regarding the pricing. What you're asking for appears to involve more extensive demands than a standard bar interaction. The request for what sounds like: 30 consecutive days of engagement, with a new customer, with daily BFE, from a straight man, and in a non-native language, sounds like a significant commitment. This could explain why only a minor reduction in his rate might not be appealing

It's possible to see the situation from his perspective regarding the pricing. What you're asking for appears to involve more extensive demands than a standard bar interaction. The request for what sounds like: 30 consecutive days of engagement, with a new customer, with daily BFE, from a straight man, and in a non-native language, sounds like a significant commitment. This could explain why only a minor reduction in his rate might not be appealing

It's possible to see the situation from his perspective regarding the pricing. What you're asking for appears to involve more extensive demands than a standard bar interaction. The request for what sounds like: 30 consecutive days of engagement, with a new customer, with daily BFE, from a straight man, and in a non-native language, sounds like a significant commitment. This could explain why only a minor reduction in his rate might not be appealing

100%.... He would've been out the door at the mention of 5k per day..... and a haircut, I have clippers, I'd offer to give him a haircut.

I give OP credit to have the 🏀🏀 to write honestly about his day.... I'm sure everyone's blood pressure was going up at each step, thinking how they'd never do that, when in reality some would do exactly the same and never talk about it, lol

This is my opinion only and other folks will have differing opinions - but why would you want to spend your month-long holiday with a singular guy when there are literally hundreds (thousands?) of guys readily available for you? Sure, you can start building a list of regulars, but there are just so many lovely guys out there! 🤤

you mean time of day, time of week of time of year ? 
as for day noting going on during daylight but after dusk you mat start circulating as boys will be heading for work and eating, alone or with their friends before that. Bars are at busiest  in show times i.e. 10-12 ( show start hours vary from bar to bar ), then bars are slowly emptying but rarely guys are heading home straight s and may be lingering , eating and drinking  or just standing somewhere  hoping for last minute deal  , I'd say midnight to 2 am are cruisiest hours .
as for week , weekends are busiest which ,means  more boys and more customers , better selection but also more competition for their charms.
mid week is slower and chances your  dream guy won't be snatched early are much higher but also he may be taking his day off when you visit his bar.
as for time of year, to low season the same criteria like for mid week apply with added bonus of lower hotel prices. sometimes guy are kind of desperate for business which may mean better service.
For high season selection is better , prices higher , boys may be rushy but there's no danger of you being only one customer in bar with all eyes on you. 
Bottom line  is , whenever you will go , fun is guaranteed so don't overthink it 

Well one guy was working massage at BBB Inn, which had a very strict boss, so getting the time off would be an issue, and the other was freelancing and never had any money. I think these days, in high season, they could find the money for the bus, though it's not that attractive to do it for the day. My sense with the Vietnamese guys is that going for a little 'holiday', like one night in Pattaya, isn't in their list of priorities, even when they have money. Sending money to their family, debts, rent, visa runs, sickness costs, smoking, hanging out with their mates, parties, new clothes, all come first.  

That's all absolutely correct but unfortunately in real life sometimes what was approved in principle and in advance, when comes to it not necessarily will work as scripted. We agreed that during day each of us has free hand to do whatever and that I may bring somebody and requested that at this time room will be vacated,  but when it come to it in reality it created some , how to say it ? uneasiness.
From childhood I remember  conversation my parents had with their lifelong friends about going together for vacation, each couple in own car but they were supposed to start at my parents place at such and such time. And my father knowing they are not exactly famous for being on time disclaimed " if you won't  be here at 7 am, we are going and you will chase us on the    road somewhere ".
It turned that they were only 5  minutes late  so my parents were on the road already when they arrived . It took weeks  to heal perceived offense and we are talking about lifelong friends, not occasional hook up. 

Why didn't you agree on the tip before you off them from bar?
The guys nowadays do not see a difference between sex and drinking. They are offering their company and time. They expect 2000 to 2500 short time.
I suspect some of them prefer sex because it's faster compared to a few hours of drinking.

Part of an experience for tourist and a must to do during night. An entertaining event one needs to fulfill when in thailand. Custom made with a much younger partner for the night with a small price. Time hasn't changed the business, with Grindr and other sites offer free fun. An exciting thing to choose a partner for the night with an endless choices of local and all ass &cock from around the world. In the bar one can sample the good before hand. Win Win situation. Not just paying for sex, it is a package of an experience & entertainment.  

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I'm in my mid-thirties and still have a fair amount of hook-ups but I like paying for it because:

Transparency: I want their body, they want my cash, and when it goes right, we both win. Simple as that.

Convenience: Being able to book sex exactly when and where I want just wipes out the headache of trying to hook up with someone off an app.

The Experience: I like the gogo bars and appreciate being able to see every inch of them live and in person. There's no concern about fake or old pics. I was just telling a buddy back home, 'This is the kind of thing we've always wanted.' Being in a bar with a stage full of cute boys who'll (mostly) all go home with you for a bit of cash is like heaven.

I have thought about this a lot recently.
I've been a P4P guy since my early-mid 20s (now mid-late 30s) and it's never really been about not being able to get it for free, paying just provides more opportunities with less time wasted, rather than just being another horny guy on the apps begging for a taste.
I travel specifically for the purpose of exploring P4P and cruising spaces, I find it more honest to just offer an exchange rather than going on dates that I have no intention of following up on just for sex when i'm in other countries. 
I do sometimes date outside of the P4P scene, but recently i've been thinking that if i'm going to get in to a long-term relationship they might need to share the same hobby as me. 

I have a small group of 'regulars' that I try and see every trip. Lads that have given me great sex, and/or warm companionship and/or are fun to take out to the clubs etc. There are one or two key members of that group, others on the fringe that drop out or who are, for various reasons replaced.  They are lads that I keep in loose contact with in the long months back home and who I am really looking forward to hooking-up with again on my next visit.
Notwithstanding them, I also love visiting the bars and 'interviewing' new boys, looking for that spark that makes my tired old cock stir, getting them back to my room, and seeing how we get on together. Some prove passing ships, others I am keen to see again.
Over many trips I have yet to find the one lad that can make me foresake all the others (old and new), although I get very close to, and get very fond of, one or two of my group.  But I am only a holiday visitor and probably behave like one; perhaps if I was to spend longer living here, or even live here, then 'the one might' emerge?