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A&P sauna entrance is 6.50 USD for locals and expats and 10 USD for tourists (regardless of nationality). 4.50 USD for locals and expats after 8 pm. They justify in a comment on google maps by different incomes locals vs. tourists.

U&Me Massage in street 502 is no more. So is Aroma in street 408. POC = Pride of Cambodia, gay bar with Paradise massage on upper level.

That's the important part. I guess most members here prefer slim smooth 20's. If someone writes about free sex in India, have to add that that would be with people I wouldn't have sex with if they paid me.

I remember that massage shop from my last trip in Siem Reap, even think spotted some talent there, but didn't make it into the shop. Now armed with your recommendation, will have a look next time. A picture or stats would be useful.

In places that state a minimum tip, I tip that amount (because I think 1000 or 1200 is very fair for the masseur). Most happily take that, only two cases (of about 10) where boy was whining for more, or asked for more to cum. I consider this poor behavior.

There must be places in South East Asia that care for dementia patients at a fraction of the cost in the West? Actually there is such a place near Chiang Mai, they made a movie "The village of the forgetful" or similar title, originally in German (Das Dorf der Vergesslichen 2018), was shown at Goethe Institute some years ago.

I find that approach (boyfriend changing to caregiver in case of dementia) somewhat flawed. I get along better with Myanmar and Cambodia boys than with Thai boys. (Not enough data on Lao, but I estimate similar.) If it were for boys only, I would be in one of these countries. But Thailand has so many advantages in other areas (visa, infrastructure, sightseeing) that I stay here most of the time.

Yes the oil is a nuisance during afters, the only benefit is that the customer starts massage nude. Thai massage has some stretches that I don't like (I'm not flexible in my bones and joints), but will try again to see how to go from massage to fun.

I don't come here for charity, and if there is a misunderstanding I will extricate myself in a way that is as polite and costs me as little money as possible. About 2022 I went to a Saphan Khwai massage place and asked for a particular boy by his picture from Line. I went to take a shower and wait in the room, and another boy turned up, and he was not my type. I went back to reception and it turns out he has the same name, and the one I was asking for is not available. But that will not do for me, I got dressed, said a few words of comfort, and left, without paying anything.

We would have to compare profiles or pictures if those I consider too old and fat are acceptable sexual partners for you.

I did online dating and gay saunas in Mumbai and Delhi and gave up. First, most profiles don't have their face pictures, and if you get their pictures, mostly old and fat. In public life you see a few cute, but online dating and gay saunas so poor, I gave up. Details in my blog https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2024/04/no-gay-activities-feb2024-india.html

How did you change from massage (I assume masseur fully dressed) to nude to sex? And what did it cost and how much negotiations are involved? Those are the parts that I dread, if there is any glitch, I lose interest.

Such thing has never happened to me, and I would not let it happen that they switch masseur to someone I didn't choose (unless he is my type, but chances are very small). I would leave without tip, not even fee for shop unless paid in advance. I dislike discussing activities and remuneration during massage, that's why I go to places where both is clear from start.

"Outside" is literal translation from Thai, and both in Thai and English the main meaning is one of location (outside of a room or building), and in Thai language gay slang it means "non-penetrative sex".

Whereas I prefer places where it's clear from the start that we will have fun and at what price. That's why I go to SK and Inthamara and Ladphrao and not to Silom/Sathorn/Sukhumvit. From my experience there, I dare say your encounter was an outlier.

That's offensive to those who are not money boy. Anyway, default should be sex for fun, and I always wait for them to ask for money, never offer.

That's a no-brainer. February is the best weather in Thailand, April the worst (hot and humid). Furthermore, Thai New Year falls in April. Some people like it, others don't to the extent of leaving the country.

How romantic! No seriously, would have totally killed my mood. No extras, no tip if such thing ever happens to me. This place? (Sathorn, Nang Linchi, Chan Gao) https://maps.app.goo.gl/nmsb1qDHJQyBnNKH9

Grindr has been my least favorite app (I prefer Hornet, Blued/HeeSay, Romeo) for the reasons mentioned above and for being buggy (various delays and problems that I attribute to poor programming). Issues with login and with saved messages. To the extent that I don't use it any more.

If I were in OP's situation, I would stand in front of the place, let my eyes wander over the available boys, then look at the menu or ask for the menu and study it carefully, while occasionally lifting my view to the available boys, hoping to catch the sight of the one I want but who is busy with his phone. If that does not work, ask the other boys about the chosen one or make an excuse and leave. Did it ever occur to you that he might reach out to everyone who passes by? There was a massage boy near my place in Bangkok. He smiled or waved to me every time I passed his workplace, and I entertained thoughts of getting now him better. But then we crossed paths on the road or in 7-Eleven three times, he didn't recognize or ignored me. That's all I need to know, his interest in me is entirely for business. If he had smiled to me one of these times, that would have settled the deal.

Philippines are on my list of places to go, but not high. I read and heard about poor safety. All the Pinoy boys I met so far were only average.

I get rarely hit up for money, and if, I almost always refuse without spending much thought on it. Maybe the Thai can pick up who is an easy target? And I'm not. It would need a track record of several meetings, with efficient communication, being on time and good activities in bed, for me to consider sending money. And even then it would be more the person than the situation. I would be more prone to help someone without character flaws with a small problem, than someone with character flaws with a big problem.

It comes with long periods of prosperity. For decades, for every tourist they disenchanted by their behavior, two new would turn up.

Cold winters? Poor boy business when coming as a tourist? Language and cultural barrier? You mentioned you grew up in Japan. I have never been and can only judge from what I read.

You're not the only one. Many times that I had a good encounter, and I think the boy as well, and I would go out of my way for a repeat but am met with at best indifference. And I don't know what went wrong! Or I reach out to a boy several times and met with indifference and laziness. And then suddenly a message: "Christian, I miss you, I love you ... and I need money!" Well, sorry, ask whoever you spend all the weeks I tried to meet you with to help you with money. I rarely send money any more, only cases where the boy has proved reliable and good in bed several times, of which there are only few (boys).