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My requirements for a boyfriend Christian' date=' since your Grand Experiment started there seems to be one central theme ... at least that part if it associated with looking, searching, scouring the countryside looking for a '[i']certain[/i]' Thai guy. This quest is, in general, encapsulated by the quote above, which I have read many times in your posts. So help me out: exactly what is 'Your Type'? Here a brain dump* of my requirements for a boyfriend or fuck buddy. (Update: I decided to make it a comprehensive treatise, that’s why it took so long.) When boys in Saranrom ask me what I am looking for, I reply: slim, brown skin, no facial hair. I mean “no body hair”, but simplify to facial hair as this is usually a good indication and you can see it when they are dressed. When Thais I meet in discos or saunas or on the internet ask me what I am looking for in a boyfriend, I say: no smoking, no drinking, no tattoos. Both paragraphs above are just some basic points that are easy to determine, the full spectrum of requirements is much more complicated. My definition of boyfriend is someone you share a room, a bed and a fridge with and have sex with regularly. One could argue that the main point is the good sex, and it doesn’t matter whether this comes from a boyfriend, a moneyboy or a sex toy. I permanently scan my surroundings for handsome boys. It happens unconsciously, only if I notice someone who is male, age 18-30, slim, dark skin, I switch on my brain and take a closer look to see if he is handsome/cute and fits my other requirements. It’s like in the movie Terminator 2: Judgment Day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkmc1FNLInM (The interesting part is at 00:50) No smoking, no drinking, no drugs, no tattoos, no piercings. Smoking and drugs are not negotiable. I can tolerate social drinking. I can tolerate some tattoos (religious, asymmetric tribals), others are too hideous to look at them daily (snakes, scorpions, spiders, tattoos on the neck or in the face, on the hip, “arse antlers”, symmetric tribals). He should have a similar taste in underwear like I have. None of the underwear and swimwear at Vinegar (Pattaya, Jomtien Complex) is my taste. I buy all of my underwear on street stalls in Silom. My taste is simple, I like underwear in black, white, red, green, blue, orange, violet, indigo, purple, turquoise or mixtures thereof. Regularly have good sex (every other day would be fine for me). Sexual compatibility (I am quite flexible in this aspect). No sunglasses, no make-up, no painted fingernails, short fingernails. However dyed hair and hair tattoos are ok, maybe even a plus. No fashion contact lenses, best no glasses at all. No hats except base caps. Under certain conditions, with base cap can look better than without. For all other types of hat, without hat looks much better than with hat. Hair style I like (with short hair you can’t go wrong, longer hair can be great to look at, but these hairstyles require a lot of work). The back of the skull should be spherical, or a hairdo that is spherical. Teeth are not that important anymore. I used to pay a lot of attention, preferring white teeth in a line. But not, as long as he can eat with them, it’s fine for me. Braces are no problem. I can even accept tooth jewellery (or whatever you would call these gemstones glued to the tooth). Muscular/Athletic is fine, but not bodybuilder. Slight six-pack is fine. Important is the ratio of chest or waist width to depth, it should be about 2 (I would have to make some measurements to determine the most attractive ratio). Slim is the ratio between height and weight, I like the type who is 170cm and weighs 50kg. Between 1.5m and 2.0 m I don’t care how tall the boy is, as long as he is slim. Out of these borders we are going into the area of dwarfs and giants, didn’t happen so far, I would have to decide for each case. I prefer the body shape that has the smallest point above the hip, the geometry is close to a hyperboloid, which is the shape of most cooling towers in electrical power stations. I never tried this chat-up line: “I like your body, it looks like the cooling tower of a nuclear power station!” (doesn’t matter for the shape of the cooling tower if the power station is nuclear or oil or coal or gas, but I think nuclear would give best effect), or, if he is mathematician: “I like your body shape, your torso looks like hyperboloid!”. This smallest point is exactly where I want to wrap my arms around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structure Fig. 1: Hyperboloid structure, geometrical representation Fig. 2: Hyperboloid structure, cooling tower in a nuclear power plant Fig. 3: Boy in my hotel room in Chiang Mai Fig. 4: Boy in my room in Bangkok Fig. 5: Arbitrary picture from gayromeo Fig. 6: Arbitrary picture from the internet Even in real life, dressed, you can see the body shape through the T-shirt. No facial hair and no body hair, that includes no hair on perineum and scrotum. Shaving can be acceptable, but often facial hair is an indicator for hair elsewhere where I don’t like it. When I feel hair on perineum, scrotum or a crab ladder, it evokes feelings like a big black hairy spider is crawling on my arm or leg. No hair below an imaginary line from ear to eye. Sideburns? Yuck! Clear change from hair to no hair on the neck, no peach fuzz. I especially like the V-shape of hair in the neck. I cannot describe what a cute face looks like, but I recognize it when I see it. But I can say that lips, chin and neck are important, nose and ears are not important. Not in love with his mobile phone (I dislike the permanent calling or messaging some of my friends do). I don’t like missed calls. If he wants to talk to me, he should be prepared to spend a few baht for a phone call. Age range 18 to 25. (And what about ageing? No idea.) South-East Asian. There are handsome boys from Japan to Indonesia, from Burma to the Philippines, but I have no experiences with these. University education would be a plus. Speaking English would be a plus, but I can imagine speaking Thai only. (My Thai is not as good that I could lead a boyfriendship in Thai, but if I had a boyfriend who speaks only Thai I think I could improve my Thai considerably). I am not into the gay scene, so my boyfriend shouldn’t be. (I only go to bars, discos, saunas to look for sex, not because I enjoy them.) I haven’t thought much about HIV. I would prefer a boyfriend who does not have HIV or other diseases. Normal eating and sleeping times. A friend of mine likes to play online games, on one occasion from 10pm to 2am. So let’s rule out excessive playing of computer games as well. Similar interests. I like travelling, hiking, riding by bicycle, running, languages, reading, mountains, forest, architecture. Would be nice if my boyfriend shared some of these interests. I can imagine discussing other subjects (politics, history, science) with friends if my boyfriend is not interested in these subjects. Do not waste food. The last time I left food on my plate was in 2011. A Thai friend used to order more coke and popcorn than both of us could east when we went to cinema (several times). One of the reasons why I stopped seeing him. I don’t need music around me all the time. There is music I like, music I am indifferent to (unless it’s too loud) and music I don’t like (no matter which volume). So my future boyfriend should have a similar taste in music (whatever my taste in music is). I don’t wear sunglasses or jewelry and prefer my boyfriend to do the same. This applies even for fuck buddies, I sometimes have to ask them to take off chains so I can access their neck from all sides and to take of finger rings for mutual wanking. I met a few boys who stood my scrutiny for several days, but usually it takes less than an hour, often just seconds, to determine that someone will not become my boyfriend (but might stay friend or fuck buddy). Pictures on gayromeo are often promising, but insufficient to cast a decision. I had one boy come to me by taxi from Lat Krabang (30 km, I gave him money for return trip), and the second he stepped out of the taxi I could say that we would not have sex. So we discussed Thai language and travelling in Thailand in my room. There is one boy in Classic Boys. I offed him three times longtime already, we get along well, he has a sense of humor similar to mine. But he has a hideous tattoo and his crotch feels like a wire brush. There was Art whom I met at Sanam Luang when I was looking for boys at Saranrom. We met several times (December 2011 to January 2012) and had good sex every time. I would like to meet him again, but he changed his phone number. He was late (1-2 hours) every time we met, could not stay over night and asked for reasonable amounts of money. His English was limited, so we had to communicate mainly in Thai. Friday (14.06.2013) I met a boy who is a perfect match intellectually and by social level. He studies and works part-time as a translator for English-French-Thai and teaches English to Thais. There is a doctor and a pharmacist in his family and he had a look at my medicine (my cold turned into an ear infection, I had to see a doctor on Friday morning) and told me what it is for. Thai-Chinese, pale skin. My friend on Koh Sichang is a fuck buddy, but I could do without the fucking part (sex is so-so). We get along well, I have been to his place about five times already. Apart from excessive computer gaming no real complaints. I just don’t feel that I want to spend more than a few days in a row with him, separated by several weeks or months of absence. As you can see, I put much importance on physical features (cute face, handsome body, hairstyle and underwear I like) than on character (and some Thai friends pointed this out to me when we discussed the subject). My current estimation of time until I find a boyfriend ranges from 5 to 50 years. And should I be lucky, we’lI have to find a way to live together, preferably in Thailand, and to find work for both of us close to the place where we live. To give you an idea how picky I am: 96% of the pictures of nude males bangkokbois post, I wouldn’t sleep with them for free, 2% I would sleep with for free, 2% I would off in a bar. From the defunct blog bangkokofthemind/bkkmindscape, I would take 20% of the boys for free. Nonetheless, up to once per day in real life I spot a Thai guy I would immediately marry and spend the rest of my life with if he was gay, interested in me and half way acceptable manners. My pickiness varies with mood, easily by a factor of ten. There are days where I think: “you, you, and you (can come with me for some fun back in my room)”, and others where I think: “No, no, no”. In the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) you can chose three properties out of four (pressure, volume, mass, temperature), the last one is determined by the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law I think it is similar with a boyfriend: out of body, face, character, love, I can choose three, and have to take the last as it comes. *I don’t remember where I read “brain dump”, but I had to look it up to make sure it’s the right word: 2. In slang, it can describe a hurried explanation of a system, job, skillset, or other software engineering subject. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_dump (We’re not done yet, I will add some pictures of boys who qualify as fuckbuddy or boyfriend when time permits.)

The daily mail got it completely wrong, here are some corrections: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2013/07/09/nein-kfc-threatens-lawsuit-against-non-existent-hitler-fried-chicken-restaurant

Cafe Primavera Pizza and Jazz 56 Phra Sumen rd. Banglampoo, Bangkok 10200, Thailand (about 100 m east of the old fort and park) http://www.primavera-cafe.com/index.html A while ago, I came across this webpage (in German) and "Pizza" and "Jugendstil" (Art nouveau, ...my favorite style in architecture and interior decoration) made me prick up my ears. http://www.nikswieweg.com/reisen/thailand/thai1.htm Jugendstil interior is far fetched (there are some paintings by Alphonse Mucha, but that's all). I went there on Sunday afternoon, about 3 pm (after the fishbowl in the basement of an abandoned supermarket, different thread). I had pizza with salmon. Price ok, service quick, pizza tasty, I might go back. The only thing I wonder is the drink, I ordered Sprite and got a 245 ml (if I remember correctly) can, didn't know that such small cans exist. (Quick service - I was the only customer about 3 to 4 pm, you never know if the staff rather like to play with their mobile phones than serving me, but there everything was fine.)

I went there today (bus to Khao San (correct: stop on Ratchadamoen closest to Khao san), then walking). Everything as described in the link, the only thing I would change is "200 to 300 meters" to "about 100 meters".

I was waiting for someone to ask about it. It did not come with the room. It can best be described as "body fluid".

Weekend in Pattaya 28-29-30.06.2013 At the end of the month, there is so much money left, and I haven’t been to Pattaya for two months, so it’s time to go again. Furthermore, my toilet was blocked since Thursday (and the blockage dissolved upon exposure to drain cleaner over the weekend, so I could cancel an appointment with a plumber for Monday.) Friday 28.06.2013 Leave earlier from work, bus 554 to Suvarnabhum, bus 389 to Jomtien, arrive 20:15. Check in at guesthouse in Jomtien Complex. Change and shower. Songteow to Boyztown. I take a look into Wild West Boys, there are two boys on stage, a third boy enters from outside, but sorry, I cannot justify buying a drink to look at three boys. At least mamasan is honest and tells me there will be no more boys due to rain (well, there was a bit of rain in the afternoon). In A-Bomb it looks much better, I stay 21:37 to 22:32. A boy I offed a few months ago is not in, but I have his gayromeo and phone number. Tattoo count: No tattoos: 53, 8, 16, 101, 45, 59, 63 Few tattoos: 90, 56, 31, 111, 33, 15 Many tattoos: 74, 21, 5, 888, 24 (?, boy offed before I could see his number clearly) There are always 8 boys on stage, the others hang around in the audience or outside. Orange juice 160 Baht. Music, aircon and light ok. A customer lit a cigarette, staff informed him that smoking is not allowed and took his lit cigarette away (to the outside). Excellent! All boys are in white briefs of slightly different styles. Number 101 and 15 might be worth offing, I tip 101 100 Baht. I am hungry and go to Beach Road to get food. There is a group of boys, one of them is cute, so I sit down next to them for eating. A boy from the group asks to have his picture taken with me, the cute boy wants a picture, too, and puts his arm around my shoulder, and I put my hand on his hand on his knee. Unfortunately, he then sits between other boys, so apart from some more smiles, nothing happens. A missed opportunity? I go back to Boyztown and see an old friend M passing on a songtaeow. I wasn’t sure if he noticed me, our last encounters were not so good, so I don’t say hello. A boy whom I offed from Kawaii a few months ago is not there (but hopefully back some time). I enter Cupidol and stay 00:05 to 00:55. Of course M noticed me and calls me now. I don’t pick up because I am in the bar and am not sure if I want to meet M. Tattoo count: No tattoos: 37, 43, 21, 22, 34, 8 Few tattoos: 25, 38, 23 Many tattoos: 40 All boys have individual underwear. Music too loud, aircon and light ok, boys and customers smoke. Orange juice 150 Baht. Number 34 and 37 are cute, I tip number 37 100 Baht. Half an hour later, M calls again. I accept his call and we agree to meet in half an hour (1:10 am) at Family Mart in Boyztown. On the way there, I pass another old friend A, but am not sure if he noticed me. He did (missed call minutes later). (“Old friend” refers to the time I have known them, everything over 2 years with several meetings/phone calls/gayromeo chats qualifies as “old”; not to their real age.) I meet M and we go to the market on South Pattaya Road as I am hungry again. Then back to my room for some fun. Two years ago, we had good sex several times, but lately it was not so good, but there is potential. M is very occupied with his mobile phone, and a mobile phone on vibration alarm somewhere in the room is enough to spoil sex for me. He hints that he needs some money, so I give him 1000 Baht. M leaves 2:50 am to meet a friend. Saturday 29.06.2013 I get up around 10:40. There are no street food stalls or cheap Thai restaurants I know of, and most of the more expensive restaurants open later. But Pan Pan is open, and I like Italian food, so I treat myself (320 B total). One of the great things of Thailand is that it caters to all: usually I eat for 30-40 Baht per meal, sometimes I treat myself for 300-400 Baht per meal, and I am sure there are places where you have to pay 3000-4000 Baht per meal (I don’t know where, but I am sure Beachlover does). I take songthaew to Dolphin roundabout. I recently read about Wongamat Beach, so I want to have a look. I walk on the beach northwards. It’s low tide, there are rocks and there is plenty of interesting marine life to observe. I walk on the beach until Sanctuary of Truth, there the way is blocked by a wall (and you can’t get in for free this way). I had to use an umbrella all the way to protect me from the sun. The last kilometers, there was no way that leads from the beach to a public road. Next to the Sanctuary of Truth is a construction site, I ask people there and one person guides me through the construction site to a public road. On Naklua road, I walk back to Dolphin roundaboud. Total time for round trip about 3 hours. I take a songthaew and walk to Tukcom, to check out the massage places around and behind Tukcom. In one place, there is a cute boy. I feel a bit thirsty, so I have a watermelon first, and when I come back, the cute boy is gone. So I ask for a foot massage and let the manager assign a boy to me. One hour foot massage from 17:00 to 17:50 (I know that’s not one hour, but don’t complain). 200 Baht for massage parlor, 200 Baht tip. The cute boy comes back. I chat with him, good English, and he goes back to Bangkok tomorrow! We exchange phone numbers.* Back to my room to change and shower, back to Sunee. Dinner at Volterra, pizza, total 325 B (this is a holiday, so I can splurge on food even twice per day!). I read some promising reports about Cocktail Boys Club, so this is my first stop (20:45-21:52). When I enter, there is no other customer (the next customer comes 21:05, then a few more) and there is no music, but six boys are on stage. Tattoo count: No tattoos: 16, 22 Few tattoos: 4, 25, 21, 9 Many tattoos: 18 4 is cute, I think he worked at Samorn bar before. He is very occupied with his hairdo. A Thai customer invites him for a drink and does his foreplay in the bar. I stay longer than usual hoping to see something I might like (the boy fully naked or wanking), in vain. His interaction with the customer looked promising, I might off him next time. The boys are in white shorts and play with their dicks (outside of the shorts). 21 has a big and beautiful cock, but is otherwise not my type. I went with 25 twice, in Bangkok and in Pattaya, but the sex was rather dull, so I don’t off him, but tip him 100 Baht. Music, aircon and light are ok. All boys are manly and in good shape. One Member of staff in Cocktail Boys Club told me that he remembers me from before. That must have been over a year ago, when it was Tom Yum Boys. He then told me that they have no more underage boys (compared to Tom Yum Boys), all boys are over 18, because the government wants to stop underage sex. That is clearly a paradigm change, I never heard anything similar in a bar before, on the contrary, I was asked if I wanted “young boy” by members of staff in other bars. I make a round in Sunee and plan to go to Boyztown, but on my way past Cocktail Boys there is a cute boy sitting outside whom I noticed before in an internet café. I just want to ask where he works, but learn that he is just hanging around (nang len นั่งเล่น) because his brother works in Cocktail Boys. Our conversation (all in Thai) is promising. He likes boys, because girls are not sincere and faithful (he used จริงใจ jing jai and ซื่อสัดย์ sêu sàt). Very strange, from what I read I wouldn’t say gays are sincere and faithful. I order drinks for him and myself from Cocktail Boys (that’s a first: drinks from a gogo bar at gogo prices for consumption outside). The waiter asks if I like him and want him to go with me, so 300 Baht off fee is added. Back in my room, I quickly realize that I was wrong: he has no sexual interest in me. I could have offed a bag of sand as well. It doesn’t have to be that way: two years ago I offed a (straight?) boy from Night boys (Bangkok Silom Soi 6, closed more than a year ago) and in bed he fell over me like a hungry animal on it’s prey, that’s how I like it! I need a plan how to deal with with this kind of boys (bag of sand), because the sex is not satisfactory. I even wonder if word spread amongst the boys that that is what I like? I tip him 1000 Baht and he leaves 23:50. A bit too early for me to go to bed. Back to Boyztown. There I come across A again. I wonder why he is in Pattaya again and not back in the army: he can get 10 days of holiday for 3000 Baht (without receipt). I go to Walking Street. Near the entrance, at the mobile Tourist Police station, two completely drunk young Farang are sitting on chairs, arm in arm, sleeping. One of them has stains on his trousers that look like vomit. One of them is sliding away, a police officer puts him on the ground. The other one is now sitting without support and slides away as well, a process that takes a few seconds, but finally his head falls on the ground from the level of the seat of the chair. I saw it coming and could have prevented it, but the police officers saw it as well and were closer. He doesn’t wake up and it seems there is no damage. Finally, the police has to tell the public that gathered to go away. I encounter two groups of breakdancing boys on Walking Street, some of the B-Boys were sitting next to one of the groups. I walk to Sunee and have another stroll. Not much activity left, but two farang beckon me to join them, it turns out they are both bar owners, one of them is German and we have a lengthier chat. Back in Jomtien Complex, I remember that I read about very low tide at night, with the water about 50 meters away from the beach. Some boys in Jomtien Complex tell me the beach is dangerous at night, but can’t tell me why. I’ve heard this before. One more reason (in addition to low tide) to go there (not because it is dangerous, but to find out why it is dangerous). Water level is normal and there is nothing I would call dangerous. Back to my room 3:25 am. Sunday 30.06.2013 I have lunch at Antz and then go to the gay beach. It looks bleak, I walk along the gay beach on the shore and on the walkway twice, there is not a single cute boy in sight. A man with a metal detector is walking along the beach (water lower than usual), but he wears headphones, so I don’t ask him what he is searching for. When I was on the beach in April, water was even lower (low tide in the afternoon) and there were two men with metal detectors. A friend told me they are searching for gold (rings, chains, watches lost in the water). Can someone confirm? I have no regular spot, if I see someone who is cute I get a chair in proximity to him. Finally, at 1 pm, I take a chair in an arbitrary section. It soon gets busier, Farang and Thai boys are coming and available Thai boys are roaming the area. I meet a Thai J boy whom I have lost contact with two months ago (in quick succession, first his mobile number was unavailable and then his gayromeo account deleted). He lost his phone and still hasn’t got a new one, but we become friends on facebook and I give him my phone number (on paper, so he can call when he is in Bangkok and has a phone). Later, M appears on the beach as well and I have one boy to my right and one boy to my left. I stay an hour longer than usually because there is a lot of activity on the beach. I leave 15:20 and travel back to Bangkok (bus 389 to Suvarnaphum, bus 554 to my place). Total costs: Friday 2467 THB + Saturday 3830 THB + Sunday 388 THB = 6685 THB. So much fun for so little money! (And sex-wise a lot of room for improvement.) I will be back soon and plan to take the train from Pattaya to Bangkok (leaves 14:14 from South Pattaya train station) for return. * Update: met him for dinner on Tuesday near his place (Victory Monument), but we couldn’t go to his room (four people staying there) and not to my room (too far and too late), so I made another appointment for Thursday at my place and gave him instructions how to go there by bus and tipped him 200 Baht. On Thursday, I sent an SMS to remind him 2 hours before our appointment (and wrote that I can help him with money for his education, this subject was brought up on Tuesday). He called 10 minutes after the appointment, saying that he can’t come because he doesn’t have money (?), so we postpone to Monday. In Europe that would be totally unacceptable (calling 10 minutes after the appointment to cancel it, especially when the it takes one hour to go there, so he knew at least one hour before that he can’t make it), but in Thailand I have to give him credit that he called. I hope we can meet on Monday. Of course I had an alternative plan for Thursday, I usually have!

Two weeks ago, I ate at the food court in Central Latprao. There is no service apart from staff cleaning the table, you take your plate with your meal and go to your table, same for drinks. Yet they have a 5% service charge. Another observation is that prices are usually in steps of 5 Baht. With 10% service charge, you might get a final price in full Baht, but with 7% VAT you get fractions of Baht in the final price, which leads to rounding as there are only 50 and 25 Satang coins in circulation.

Two weeks ago, I ate at the food court in Central Latprao. There is no service apart from staff cleaning the table, you take your plate with your meal and go to your table, same for drinks. Yet they have a 5% service charge. Another observation is that prices are usually in steps of 5 Baht. With 10% service charge, you might get a final price in full Baht, but with 7% VAT you get fractions of Baht in the final price, which leads to rounding as there are only 50 and 25 Satang coins in circulation.

There is (or was?) Budget Hilton. Two years ago, I had a look. The rooms are big, but in dark colors and very old/used, so I passed. When I walked past last week, the gates were closed (they had been open all the time before) and the building looked deserted.

I don't think there is cruising in that area. There are moneyboys in front of the Malaysia, that's all. The boy I crossed paths with just came out of the Ibis. The Moonhouse (good and very cheap Thai food and my favorite watermelon fruit shake) has rooms as well. They are simple and cost 450 (?) Baht per night. I stayed there once. I once met a boy from Laos in his room in the Moonhouse, and he managed to talk me into sex (he was not so much my type). Half a year later, a friend from Austria stayed in that very room.

I have been there at least twice, once during day and once with boys from Soi Twilight after work. The temple seems to be open and busy 24 hours per day. There are some cows on the temple grounds.

Interesting to note that all Filipinos I met in real live (all in Thailand) spoke very good English. Of course, they are not native speakers, but a similar service from a native speaker would cost a fortune. There is a website and a program called grammarly that search texts for errors. I did copy and paste one of my articles in their website, and they found errors (but didn't say which exactly).

You should check the balance with more coins to see if it is linear. I assume you weigh food by the hundreds of grams. I once had a digital scale for letters and parcels, that became non-linear, so I made a conversation chart.

I have a problem on one of my email accounts: I delete several emails, there is a message "emails successfully deleted", they are gone, but when I go to a different folder and back to my inbox, there are there again! Then I delete again, go to dustbin, empty dustbin, and then they are gone. It's simply a programming error (although I never had this before and don't have this with other email accounts with the same provider)!

There is a replication of a European town, used as a shopping area, a few km south of Pattaya. (I went there in April, trip report when I find time.) http://www.mimosa-pattaya.com/ Arbitrary picture from the internet that matches with my memory (there are pictures and videos on the internet that show an "artist's impression" with a bell tower and other buildings that are just not there!): From close, you can easily see that everything is fake.

Hotels in Sathorn Penguin House is (was, because now I have a room) my preferred place to stay. Extract from Trip report September 2012, Charlie House. As far as I remember, I stayed there because Penguin House was fully booked. Recently (Tuesday 25.06.2013) I came across two other places, both right around the corner from 7-11 opposite to Ibis Hotel. I found a Thai boy on gayromeo whom I had seen before (over a year ago, first in DJ-Station and then in Fresh Boys). He stays in Sathorn and suggested the 7-11 near Malaysia hotel as a meeting point (I still don’t know why). We met there and were looking for a place to sit down, and there was a bench at the entrance of S1 Hostel (less than 100m south of the 7-11). http://www.agoda.com/asia/thailand/bangkok/s1_hostel.html http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293916-d4341088-Reviews-S1_Hostel-Bangkok.html (They have a website, but I forgot the address and couldn’t find it with google.) We just sat there for talking, unfortunately the noise from passing traffic is trapped and the ashtray there smells. The chat was not very promising, my friend didn’t look much at me and even played a bit with his mobile phone. Conversation was not fluent (i.e. there were awkward gaps; his English is good). There was no hint that he was looking for sex. On the street I probably wouldn’t have had a second look at him, but from gayromeo pictures I know that he has exactly that twinky body I like. Both of us were beating around the bush: “Where would you like to go now?” “Up to you.” “What would you like to do now?” “I’m not sure. And you?” “I don’t know.” But I remember a similar situation before (it’s like ping-pong, nobody wants to say that he wants sex now!). So I finally said “I would like to see you shirtless.”. So there we were, both of us with good intentions, but without room! He stays with a friend in Soi 3, but the room was not available (I asked during our conversation if I can see his room). South next to 7-11 is a hotel called “Privacy Hotel”, and from passing it looked like a short time hotel. There was some staff hanging around the reception, as I know it from other short time hotels. So we went there and there was indeed quoted (in Thai and English) at the reception: short time 2 hours 280 Baht, full night 650 Baht. To my great surprise, short time is only available to heterosexual couples! My friend did the talking and I couldn’t follow it, so I can only repeat what he told me. We went back to S1 Hostel and my friend asked for short time room, but they don’t rent rooms for short time and I didn’t inquire for overnight because it looked more expensive than 650 Baht. I don’t want this encounter fail due to lack of a room, so I decide to pay the full 650 Baht at Privacy Hotel. I shower first, then my friend showers and comes back from the bathroom completely dry and with warm skin (I don’t like wet and cold skin, as it is often encountered after showering) in his underwear which is a style I like and fits well. We had a very enjoyable hour and I’m glad I spent the 650 Baht for the room (but hope we can meet at my room or his room next time). The room is large and clean. Same for the bathroom, only complaints are that the shower is in the bathtub (I don’t like a curved surface to stand on) and there is no holder for the shower head, you have to hold it in your hand. I don’t remember how hard the mattress was (despite spending an hour on it, but I was distracted), but the duvet looks very thin. The picture on the TV was awful. I couldn’t find the remote control for the aircon, so I switched it off at the main switch (I don’t like air flows in rooms). Pictures of bathroom and bedroom: On my way back, I walk past Ibis hotel, crossing paths with a boy I remember from gayromeo, and he remembers me as well, so we exchange a few words. I take taxi back to my place. When I walk past an internet café, a Thai man comes out who is a chef (I have eaten at the place where he cooks two or three times). He chats me up and wants to go with me to my room (“เอากันได้มั้ย” – “Let’s do it together.”) I decline, because I am tired, just had sex and he is type-wise a bordercase (i.e. it can’t be excluded that we get together on another occasion). But at least the first other gay identified in my area!

I usually go to X-Boys or Classic Boys first.

Did you find out which words triggered the blocking? Computers can be strange, my previous computer had a version of word that crashed when I wrote the Thai letter ภ in a word document. So I wrote X and replaced it on another computer with a different word version. I have read many bad things about apple, and my very limited experience with apple products was poor. I had a similar case when I could not receive emails from ebay on my university email account in France. It took me a while to find out what's going on (I still have no explanation, but at least I know I didn't confuse anything).

In Germany, there is law that requires shops to have certified balances that are regularly checked by government insitutions. I don't know how the situation is in Thailand. What kind of balance did you buy? Weight range and resolution, price? Did it occur to you that your balance might not be accurate?

I would rather venture forth to new places than write trip reports. In general, I like real life more than sitting in front of a computer.

Thank you for sharing, I will put that on my list.

There is a window with the size of one tile in the bathroom.

I would not want to be with someone who made it clear that he doesn't want to be with me. But there was no indication, the boy smiled at me and waved me in when I walked past. Apart from the language problems, our interaction was normal. I am aware of that, but basically it boils down to this when you go in a bar. I have no problem if a boy doesn't want to go with me. My problem is that a bar employs boys who are not offable (the boy's choice or the bar's choice?). That might be just the tip of the iceberg, and there are more bars and boys that I just don't know of? It deeply disturbs my belief in the bar industry. It violates my unwritten rule that everyone on stage (for gogo bar) is for sale. Last year in September I was in X-Boys Bangkok, and there was a cute boy on stage who didn't pay any attention to any customer. After serious pondering I invited him for a drink, offed him and had a pleasant surprise (I entered the off with very low expectations). Another ChristianPFC moment: I want this boy again, but he left the bar! Out of all boys in Soi Twilight, there is one I want to take again, and this one is gone.

That boy (Solid, 16 years old) worked as a waiter. That's fine for me. I am talking about boys on the stage (gogo) or boys roaming the bar (host). I assume you have to be Catholic if you want to work for the Vatikan (I don't know, just an example). And if you want to work as a gogo or host boy, you have to go with customers. It's not written anywhere, but I think it should be an unwritten law. It's not written anywhere that you have to tip the boy, it is assumed that the customer knows it. In the same way, I assume that all boys can off.

Trip report 22.09.-24.09.2012 Bang Kachao To avoid confusion with current activities and friends: This report is from September 2012. Why do I post it now? Because I had it 90% complete in October, but couldn’t finish it until now. 22.09.2012 Saturday Pattaya J and I get up together, J goes to his room and continues sleeping there (at least that’s what I understand after some calls if he wants to join me for the day). I have a stroll with some detours to Big C / Homeworks South Pattaya, only to find the AEON ATM out of order. That means I will have to watch my spendings or withdraw money elsewhere with a fee. [update: There is another AEON ATM and branch in Tesco Central Pattaya.] In the afternoon a trip to Saensuk Sauna, this time no hook-up. At night I go to Funny Boys (second time this holiday, which is very rare, I usually visit bars only once, but they have an underwear fashion show on Saturday). Another customer invites me for a drink, it turns out he speaks German as a foreign language and he cites poems by Eduard Mörike (lesser known German poet 1804-1875, I have bad memories of all poetry we treated in school – i.e. I remember it, but it evokes bad feelings). We converse about German literature, Paris architecture, Thai boys and other subjects in a mix of German, English and French. This shows: you never know whom you will meet! I go home alone. 23.09.2012 Sunday Pattaya to Bangkok Check out of my room and join another customer and his Thai boyfriend on a ride to the bus station (free!). Bus to Ekkamai (price increase to 124 Baht). On strolls through Sathorn I came across Charlie House Sathorn (they have another guesthouse in Pinklao), which is not listed on agoda, but they have a website: http://www.charliehousethailand.com The prices are very competitive: 450 Baht for single occupancy and 540 Baht for double occupancy. They show me two rooms, one has a window, but two single beds, the other has no window but a double bed. For obvious reasons, a double bed is more important than a window. For the benefit of my readers, here a short report: View from the bathroom to the bed (contrary to other’s [1] hotel reports, my pictures have my stuff in them): View from the bed to the bathroom: And that’s all! But I don’t need any more. The floor has a carpet, which I consider unsuitable for hotels as it is difficult to clean. The room was small, but sufficient for me. When I came back late at night, the main door was closed and I had to ring for the receptionist (to get up from sleep) to open a side door to let me in. A joiner fee of 200 Baht is charged (so it would be cheaper to check in single but with double occupancy). The location (Soi Saphan Khu) is very close to the bus stop on Rama 4 road near Lumpini Tower. Their advertisement „The five-star guesthouse in Bangkok“ is far fetched, to put it mildly. I spend the evening in Sathorn getting an oil massage (real massage) and a happy ending with a masseur I spotted earlier and tested with a foot massage. At night, I am not sure what to do, so I walk to Langsuan (north of Lumpini park), there are some Thai for Thai gay venues supposed to be there, but I cannot detect much activitiy. On my walk back to Silom I notice available ladies north and west of Lumpini Park [update: east as well on a different night]. Now it’s past midnight, so it’s safe to enter DJ station (show is over). On my first walk through the disco I notice a cute boy, so I sit down and look back to him, after a few minutes he sits down next to me. Fastest hook up (less than 5 minutes from entering). We (he, I and a friend of him) stay together for the rest of the night. He gets drunk. Such a situation can be treacherous: he could get completely drunk (unconscious) or his friends could take him home or he could decide to go home alone, but here everything goes alright and we go back to my room (and I almost have to carry him up the stairs to my room, where he immediately falls asleep). 24.09.2012 Monday Bangkok We wake up, my friend is fine and we have some horitzontal dancing. After showering and dressing, he gets a phone call which requires all his attention, which I find a bit rude. I follow him onto the street and up to Rama 4 road, where I just manage to get his phone number before he takes a taxi, still talking on the phone. I called him several times on the following days, but we did not meet again. I wonder if my room was below his standards or I am not his type or he just wanted sex. So I am suddenly left on my own. On check-out, I am charged 200 Baht joiner fee (I knew about the fee before, so no complaint here, this is the only time I paid a joiner fee). On a friend’s facebook I read a reference to Bang Krachao (บางกระเจ้า), which is a peninsula with forest (or now a real insula because it has canal at the smallest point with a bridge to the main land) in the Chao Phraya east of Sathorn district and belonging to Samut Prakan Province. Further research on the internet has shown that it is amazingly close to central Bangkok and easy to reach. http://frogmom.com/2009/04/bang-krachao-biking-through-bangkoks-green-lungs/ http://traveltobangkok.blogspot.de/2008/03/phra-pradaeng-lungs-of-bangkok.html http://suite101.com/article/bangkok---exploring-the-jungle-within-a401861 I walk along Soi Si Bam Phen (then somewhere along Na Ranong Road and Sunthon Kosa Road) to Kasemrat Road which leads to Khlong Toei Port. I come across Wat Klong Toei Nai, which has some interesting lamps. When you are at the entrance of Khlong Toei Port, turn right towards the wat and then walk along the wall until you reach the small port for cross river ferry. The port is labelled „S7“ (it looks like a southern extension of river boat, but there seems to be only service across the river, and not along the river). View to Sathorn: View to Klong Toei Port: Pier on the other side: On the other side, you can rent a bicycle (50 Baht for 1 hour, 100 Baht for one day), no passport or deposit is required. Not far from the pier is a public park, Srinakhon Khuean Kan Park (ศรีนครเขื่อนขันธ์). I remember this park from my very first visit to Bangkok, during which I went there on an organised bicycle tour. After driving around for about an hour I return before it gets dark and the hour I paid for is over. Elevated ways in the swamp: I did not manage to reach Bhumibol bridge (สะพานภูมิพล, also called Mega bridge), so I will be back for a full day. [update: Daytrip with Jellybean in April 2013, by bike to floating market and to Bhumibol bridge.] Panorama picture from internet: In the evening, I meet a farang friend in Soi 4 and at night I don’t want to go to bars again, so I visit a Thai friend at his place and stay there over night. To be continued. [1] If you don’t know whom I’m alluding to, his name starts with „beach“ and ends with „lover“.