Got my Brazil eVisa

[floridarob]

6 hours ago, Connordrick said:

Thanks for the info! I submitted mine on Thursday, and things are looking good so far. The site didn’t ask for proof of travel or income, but I did enter the flights departure and exit for my next trip to the Pride week. 

Let us know how it goes and the timeframe from submittal to Visa in email

[Canadianbtmguy]

It's a holiday in AU, CA and US, my visa status check still says Under check

,I don't really have much hope of a Brazilian trip anymore as I have to go home on thursday.

Luckily I have been enjoying it here in BA more than at first; after having given up on the paid guys here, I turned to that last resort of free ones on Grindr, which seems to not to have any significant number of money-seekers here. With Grindr, the pat months I had (a bit painfully, it's true) been going through the process of giving up free guys, after gaining (another) 5 kilos (despite my Brazilian Ozempic, I first lost a few kilos, then plateaued then eventually headed back up). My Grindr pics date to the dawn of digital photography. Yet, to my surprise, I hooked up with two quite appealing guys (not the creme of the creme, indeed, but if they turned up at 2025 Lagoa they would be middle-of-the-pack). And not only did they not turn me down (I didn't, for example, dare use Grindr on a recent trip to France, home of the turn-down...) but were both complimentary to me and enthusiastic in sex. (A third guy closer to my own age was less enthusiastic.) The second one was a Venezolano who stuck around for a cuddle and a chat before going for an encore, and despite a bit of unease arising from my prejudice that Venezolano=money seeking, my prejudice was disconfirmed when he asked for nothing more than a shower and a kiss goodbye. 

[Canadianbtmguy]

I wrote to a (understandably) rather hidden government email (dim@itamaraty.com.br) for those who have been waiting 5 or more business days. He says it has now been issued. I see no other evidence of that. Still says "under check". But do the airlines have it in their "systems" nevertheless? Sure wish I had written to it yesterday or even Friday.

[Canadianbtmguy]

Especially considering today is a tuesday 🥺 And we all know what that means

[Canadianbtmguy]

Done. Just in time for my return tomorrow night.🤣 Well, at least Ill have a wednesday night at 202...

(And I dont have to engage in subterfuge to get to the  international departures at Brasilia, nor spend 18 hours there...)

[Connordrick]

Glad you got it. @Canadianbtmguy 

maybe today was the day 🙃
Guess what? I just got my Brazil visa today! I was a bit stressed because my credit card payment sent the code to one of my work phones. I have no clue why, but I figured it out. I updated my credit card profile to receive the codes in my personal phone.

I took the picture with my iPhone because it was digital, which made it easier. But I double-checked that it looked how they want me to, with a white background. I cropped the picture twice, but here’s something no one has mentioned: the Brazilian site actually crops the picture for you. You just have to scroll up and down until it looks good.

I added the dates that I was planning for June 16. And just put my income I didn’t have to submit anything. So I’m all set to travel! 

I submitted my application on Friday, the 23rd, and I just received the email confirmation. I’m so excited! I’ll print out plenty of copies, just in case.

So, I’m getting ready for SP Pride! It’s a bit of a last-minute decision, as most Pride events aren’t really my thing or for my type . But hey, it can be have more  GP plus the eye candy The $ still in good shape, so I’ve canceled my Montreal trip and instead heading to SP. Can’t wait   

[floridarob]

6 hours ago, Canadianbtmguy said:

Done. Just in time for my return tomorrow night.🤣 Well, at least Ill have a wednesday night at 202...

(And I dont have to engage in subterfuge to get to the  international departures at Brasilia, nor spend 18 hours there...)

Look for me at 202.... make sure to print 2 copies of the visa, one they'll keep at the airport and one for you.

[floridarob]

On 5/27/2025 at 6:12 PM, Canadianbtmguy said:

Done. Just in time for my return tomorrow night.🤣 Well, at least Ill have a wednesday night at 202...

(And I dont have to engage in subterfuge to get to the  international departures at Brasilia, nor spend 18 hours there...)

Did you make it?

I went to every person in the place asking if they were from Canada...Nada🤷‍♂️

[Canadianbtmguy]

Actually no one asked me for a printed copy (despite the warnings on the visa)

Actually my night at 202 was ruined and abbreviated by when I tried to checkin online with Copa it wouldn’t allow it (it was the first segment of an ANA star alliance around the world ticket, so I was a little worried that it would end up a complicated mess at the airport) I googled Copa and shame on google (and shame on me) but the first number listed was an 800 number, which I called. Copa’s true number is not toll-free (shame on Copa for fomenting confusion). So I called this number, they knew a remarkable amount about my itinerary and they said that ANA had neglected to collect the government taxes and that’s why I can’t checkin online. In order to travel I would have to pay the taxes (to Copa?)  They knew so much about my itinerary (and I couldn’t understand them so well, which is far from unusual), so I was kind of going along with the story. They sent me an invoice—with my itinerary—to pay $700. ANA and United (the latter being the second leg) both had hour plus waits. 
 

I probably would’ve paid it, I confess, if they had a better email, relating to Copa! Finally, I located the needle of Copa’s US number in the haystack. It’s +17868402672. They still couldn’t easily say why I couldn’t checkin online but they said everything ok.

But all the time wasted to these putative scammers left no time for fun. 
(and the two Garotos I met in the afternoon were awful) I will have to look forward to a better next trip, although I don’t when

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, Canadianbtmguy said:

Actually my night at 202 was ruined

So you didn't go... ?

Copa number in the US is generally pretty easy to find online....I'm a huge fam of Copa in the sky, their call center, website and policies have a lot to be desired. If you don't need to interact with them, it's great.

[Canadianbtmguy]

I went, albeit pretty early 5:30 maybe. At that point the music is manageable for calls. Although about 80% of my attention was consumed by the Copa issue, I did keep 20% to look at passing guys as I sat in the booth, and I didn’t get the sense there was anyone I wanted. My flight from Sdu to Brasilia (from where my ticket began) was 9ish and for once I wished I was flying from GIG (so I could’ve checked in with copa there) but I didn’t want the added stress of staying til the last minute so I uncharacteristically left early and arrived at Sdu early. 

[Riobard]

How are you all interpreting the e-visa start date for 90 allowable days per 365-day period? My consulate wouldn’t answer my query other than to ask why I need to know! Probably they don’t know the regulations and they were dodging. Maybe officers on arrival know the drill. 

Example, if you visited pre-visa for 65 days in Jan/Feb/Mar beginning Jan 10th, are you tallying those days against your 90 and interpreting you have a balance of 25 days allowable until Jan 9th, 2026, in spite of the subsequent visa requirement? 

Please, no need to remark on federal police extension prerogative; that does not answer my question and is a separate way to manoeuvre permissible length of stays. 

Alternatively, do you think that the e-visa is a reset? If you got your e-visa May 1st and visit Brazil July 1st are you tallying your allowable 90 days within the one year so that the period ends June 30th, 2026 and resets at that point, essentially clearing the slate of visits prior to the April 10th visa obligation? In other words, do you think the officer enters your data on arrival as if the day count is set newly at zero onward from the date you first arrive following visa acquisition, or is (s)he looking at the system that presumably has your earlier visits on record and then possibly restricting your allowance relative to your plans?

It states multiple entries - 90 days - but I know for sure that does not confer more than 90 days in a one-year period but, rather, 90 days total whether you enter once or 25 times. I do believe with the previous visa exemption from March 2019 the allowance was actually 90 days within a 180 day period, in contrast to the old consular visa that stipulated 90 per year as does the e-visa.

VFS Global wasn’t able to clarify either.

Please be in the habit of asking when you clear Brazil immigration as I could not find any clarification through other channels. We don’t like surprises.

[floridarob]

• Based on Decree No. 9.199/2017.
• The duration of stay on an e-Visa is limited to 90 days maximum, unless otherwise stated.
  • Foreigners holding an e-Visa may not stay more than 180 days per year in Brazil.

 

 

They've always used a rolling 12 months to determine how many days you've been allowed to stay, not a calendar year.

Only 1 time I had an officer stop to count my stamps in/out and how many days I had been, but that was 20 yrs ago.

Are their systems more updated now and can tell quickly how many you've been 🤷‍♂️

Apparently, there's some friction between te US (doesn't affect you)and some Brazilian diplomats that is supposedly going to make them tougher on us....you know the reciprocity thing, it's been on the news here a lot lately.  

[Riobard]

That legislation is dated and does not address the nuances of more recent on-again off-again visa requirements. However, it is true that the decree posted above was essentially reinstated when the exemption decree of March 2019 was repealed in May 2023. Yet it does not indicate whether it nullifies the visit days tally leading up to the visa requirements re-instatement per individual finally implemented recently. 

It’s always been clear it was a rolling yearly timeframe … “migratory year”, not calendar year. My question still stands. The legislation states a tally commencing upon the first arrival subsequent to the visa acquisition. Legislation from 8 years ago wouldn’t be expected to clarify whether an imposed visa obligation established at some point within your current rolling tally in a non-visa (= visa exempt) context (as I made clear in the example where the initiation of a migratory year occurred) essentially resets the rolling count. My interpretation is on the conservative side at this point and caution should be perhaps exercised  to set stay boundaries that align with the unformalized assumption that the new e-visa does not wipe the antecedent visit slate clean, a slate reflected in passport stamps. That said, it’s uncertain and may have been overlooked in the planning. I will need to second-guess at this point. If it’s the stricter interpretation then a frequent visitor may wish to strategize their migratory year accordingly based on their seasonal patterns. 

Reciprocity may impact on the extension allowance of up to 90 additional days. My  question is unrelated to that. My question was clearly outlined and speaks to the non-extension aspect of 90 days per year on rolling migratory year basis wherein an absence of > 365 days obviously resets the next migratory year iteration. I will ask Immigration upon my next arrival but that is not imminent. Others may elect to do so and report back.

[Riobard]

Also escalating tensions is major sporting events this decade in Brazil and North America that will have implications for ease of entry for fans let alone competitors. 

[Riobard]

Correction last paragraph upthread:

… wherein a duration of time > 365 days from a current migratory year’s commencement has elapsed then resets the next migratory year iteration at such point first visit occurs within said new iteration, with any duration of temporal gaps (> 0 days) possible between migratory year end dates and subsequent commencement dates.

[Riobard]

Naturally the current hate-on for America dominates news cycles. Be selective in perspective around the full range of dynamics all you like.

However, a counter-prevailing very robust trump-lite lobbying by tourism entities is instrumental in the senate having dispatched to the deputies chamber a request to back-pedal the reinstated e-visa decree.

Astonishingly, the government itself has projected in its VFS Global platform contract an estimated annual application by 205,000 visitors, based on the full calendar year tally of 2018 wherein the e-visa at that time, later rescinded, had supplanted the more complex consular visa acquisition, yet 2024 saw 735,000 visitors from the 3 affected nations, a full period of e-visa postponement iterations. I think the term here as it relates to the tourism component of GDP is ‘own goal’.

If this drags on it will be essential to statistically test the visitor ratios by e-visa against basic passport entry for 1st quarter 2026 compared to 1st quarter 2025, albeit adjusting for the possible 2025 influx based on pre-visa entry opportunity. Or more accurately the two respective 4-month blocks of Dec-March. 

No elected government official can ignore their sub-constituencies dependent upon tourism. Money is livelihood and those depending on such aren’t tantruming about the impediments to travel abroad. In contrast, ease of tourism access to the 3 nations for Brazilians is convenience not livelihood. Those folks are not organizational entities with a structured lobbying voice.

(And need I add … wink nudge … elected government officials are domestic tourists.) 

[Keithambrose]

On 6/6/2025 at 4:43 PM, Riobard said:

Correction last paragraph upthread:

… wherein a duration of time > 365 days from a current migratory year’s commencement has elapsed then resets the next migratory year iteration at such point first visit occurs within said new iteration, with any duration of temporal gaps (> 0 days) possible between migratory year end dates and subsequent commencement dates.

Baffled, again!

[Riobard]

57 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Baffled, again!

Welp you can add your frivolous dig, regarding my desire to correct my misleading statement about visa protocol, to the itty bits of attention you desperately seek on a middling chat board where you absolutely have to consistently crowd the table seating. At the same time you criticize vexatious conflict as boring you have no compunction about instigating and you evidently thrive on it. There’s invariably a you. Swat. 

[Riobard]

Got my e-visa earlier in the year. Fast, 2 business days following VFS submission the printed visas in hand, and excellent stage updates from the platform. Final consulate clearance is down on weekends. Any forthcoming changes have no bearing on my visitor privileges. I’m legal, as are my tourism targets in status and appearance. 

Good night, and good luck with the procedure. *Not returning to this thread*

—- 

If I were to provide a few tips that might be useful in speedy CPF acquisition, these are:

My consulate would absolutely not budge in the requirement of a formal birth registration document that included both parents’ names. A legal birth certificate in my country does not include such unless that version is specifically requested. I was able to fast track a certified original copy, with tons more data than the wallet size format, from the relevant national archives for a higher than usual fee. 

The online CPF application through Itamaraty consular services, for which you register with email and password, is in Portuguese. There are 3 address fields. The expected term might be ‘endereço’ but it translates to public place. That is where you enter your street name only. The second box is to enter street number and the third box for unit number if relevant, or leave blank.

You must enable pop-up function on your server. I think I had it disabled for Safari and Chrome without knowing and then toggled the reverse for both for good measure. If it is disabled the application platform won’t yield the electronic document in which your data and application reference code are depicted. It is called FCPF and the reason it relies on pop-up function is that the completed application does not get sent to you by email, in contrast to other types of documents for which you are accustomed to email communication. 

My consulate requires an in-person appearance to complete and issue the CPF but it happens to be walkable for me. 

Bonne chance.

[floridarob]

6 hours ago, Riobard said:

Final consulate clearance is down on weekends

A friend got his on a Sunday....


 

 

6 hours ago, Riobard said:

My consulate would absolutely not budge in the requirement of a formal birth registration document that included both parents’ names.

Because they thought you were AI or a robot .....

 

 

6 hours ago, Riobard said:

*Not returning to this thread*

Highly doubtful


 

 

8 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Baffled, again!

Now you know why he and Peter are penpals  🤷‍♂️

[Keithambrose]

9 hours ago, Riobard said:

Welp you can add your frivolous dig, regarding my desire to correct my misleading statement about visa protocol, to the itty bits of attention you desperately seek on a middling chat board where you absolutely have to consistently crowd the table seating. At the same time you criticize vexatious conflict as boring you have no compunction about instigating and you evidently thrive on it. There’s invariably a you. Swat. 

Perhaps it's Esperanto?