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It seems Thai people did not forget who they voted for and why all this supports what we said before, time is on Move Forward side. In case of any troubles in unwieldy 11 party coalition who will be first to be asked to rescue - biggest party in opposition and the house as it is now.

just go, they give you new 30 days stamp and have fun

greed took over better of me, since Y suggested he can join me and save on off fee as it was his day off I thought I better cash in and economize that evening

Correct, since I ensured Y will come , no need to go hunting

Day 10 After Y left I slept well despite of cold bed. Last breakfast today at the hotel as I’m finally moving to Baan Silom. Nice lady who prepared my fried eggs every morning was nicely surprised with tip I left her. In the room I packed then took tuk-tuk which took me to new digs for 100 baht. I left luggage there as they instructed me room will be ready in 1-2 hours ( it was still morning ) and went for a stroll. On corner of soi Tawan repaired my daypack for 70 baht then got a message from MA he is drinking cofeee at Silom 64 so marched there to join him for tea and latest news. Then I took MRT to Hualampong just to check how it is now after most trains moved to Bang Sue or whatever elaborate name of new station is. Central platform is kind of railway museum with exhibit of old stem engines but there are still some trains departing from there. There’s free shuttle bus connecting both stations but doesn’t seem to be too frequent, perhaps one per hour as for time I was surveying station , more than ½ hr it did not departed. When I arrived in hotel room was already free so time for some laundry. Since I like to travel light I have habit that first thing to do in the room is do some washing. In the afternoon we had thunderstorm, about time as it was so far quite dry for rainy season. At 7.30 dinner at G’Bangkok with MA , from there we went to Hot Male beer bar to have some drinks with boys there. I used that occasion to molest new boy One a bit more and of course force some tip on him for his troubles. It was past 10 pm when I got Line message from SK that he just landed and is going straight to my hotel. He was escorting his ailing brother to Cambodia as doctors advised them his treatment will be cheaper there. So waved good bye to gentlemen in the bar and went to hotel, not long after SK arrived. He was both sleepy and hungry and suggested that instead of restaurant he will go and buy something to eat for him at 7/11 across the street so I gave him 200 baht to do some shopping. Yes , upon return he gave me a change with receipt. Food energized him quite a bit so we had some exercises instead of talking politics in Mauritius.

that's sophisticated at least

Day 8 When Kao left I felt so happy and energized that decided I can’t leave things as they are. Send Line to Y if he is available, answer come right away and with picture – sick in bed. So I tried SK, only could leave message so I fell asleep, SK actually called me but I was sleeping soo deeply I did not even hear that. So I guess I was meant to sleep alone that very night. Came for breakfast quite late and it was so full I had problem of finding space. I apologized to SK for missing his message and offered him Mahankhon trip instead. He said he will be there in 1 hr. Then I got into touristy mood and asked him if he wants to go with me to see new tunnel leading to Grand Palace. Off we went, impressive place, most important there are toilets there. Then I hired boat for 1.5 hr canals trip, SK gladly joined me . He is not shy type, even called his mom and show her naïve farang treating him to those forays. Quite clingy on the boat too. We returned to Silom civilization by the tourist boat. At 4.30 I went to Cofee Grinder to meet MA for latest news exchange, next step was dinner at G’Bangkok and it was dark already when I returned to my room. Asked Y if he feels better now, shrewd guy answered that he does and if I want he can come to my room tonight pointing that it’s his day off so I can save money on off fee. Deal. Day 9 It seems I can’t have enough Y , after breakfast I asked him to return to the room for some more intimacies. Can’t blame myself , I like him , both personality and build. I think he appreciates too fact that I engage him so often this trip. Of course I tipped him extra for that overtime. Today MA moved to my hotel so we celebrated that fact by having coffee and bagel in restaurant in the lobby. And decided to go to Jey Spa to try our luck there. There were only 2 guys on duty, both suitable but mamasan said he will call one more in a second and that was good move as new arrival happened to catch MA’s eye. I opted for guy nicked/named Guy, 100% gay by his won admission. Handsome and knows his job but min tip 2500 . Not saying was not worth it but rather on high side. Then I suggested pizza dinner at Madrid so MA and me went there . Madrid Tavern never disappoints. In the evening I went to Patpong 2 hoping SA will be there but they told me he went to Cambodia to take his ailing brother there. Then had few drinks with MA and boys at Hot Male beer bar. There’s new host, named One there. Very nice young gentleman . But somehow I had hots for A at Moonlight so went there only to see him just being taken by customer. He apologetically said “ I know you came here for Y” which was not accurate but what I could do if he was already taken ? So yes, knowing from yesterday that Y will be available only till 2.30 am tonight I took him home anyways. I told you I seem not to have enough of him. We found way to keep us occupied till that 2.30 , than he collected his ST tip and went to Bus Station to pick up his sister as he told me yesterday he will.

from my experience there's enough to keep me occupied for 2-3 weeks vacation

+1

glad to hear you stand your ground, Thai boys are angels but by far not all of them

as they say in Ethiopia, best cops are former thieves, most faithful wives are former whores and best immigration experts are those who stay in country illegally or legally but under false pretences

Obama is relevent because he used to say 'yes we can" , that's why . He was born in Hawaii which is not part of Ethiopia for good 2127 years if not more. His father was from Kenia, bit closer to your target. Glad to inform you he retired in his country of birth i.e. USA ,no doubt taking your enlightened advice. on topic of entry stamps , you right it can be extended while in country but that's no help to OP as he already left. If one leaves , stamp expires ie. if somebody has stamp till say Sept 1st but leaves Thailand today Aug 26 , can't return after tomorrow on Aug 28 for another few days using Sept 1st stamp, instead will receive another stamp for 30 days from Aug 28. Rest your information about stamp is accurate and confirms what I said in my original post so OP will be doing right thing taking both mine and your advice as they are all the same i.e. one can return to Thailand even day or two after leaving and will receive new 30 days stamp. As for Ethiopia few pictures so you know what you are talking about :

when comes to me and Thai trips it doesn't work. If I arrive in the morning I want to have an access to shower and room right away instead of risking to wait till 2-3 pm so usually book room in some economical hotel like Nantra Silom for the night before and then move to something upscale like Baan Silom etc. for following night or next day The same for those flights departing late evening or just past midnight - I book room for that night as well for the same reason

....... in 2100 megaprojects started in 2050 , 27 years from now, will be already aging. even if such drop will happen it won't be (hopefully) overnight but very gradually, leaving plenty of time for population and states to adapt. I'd not panic, not even because I don't expect to see those 2050 megaprojects

thank you , it means seat beside me will be free to allow for more elbow space.

sure, they need money when will be released from prison I guess

yes you can as Barack Obama would say. In May after week in Thailand I went to Kuala Lumpur , Malaysia for few days and upon return to Thailand I got another 30 days stamp. When you leave your 30 days stamp is expiring and you will get new one upon return

Tawan or other bar boys will be asking for 2000-3000 short time (1-3 hrs ), 3000-5000 long time (overnight) , on top iof that you will pay off fee to bar , usually 500. boys from apps may be everything between 1000 to , as you noticed 6000 but since they are freelancing feel free to bargain down, worst that may happen they say no ( and 2 hours later contact you with Ok, Ok ) In spa you will pay massage fee 300-1250 depending on spa, length of session and room used (some rooms at say, Jey are luxurious , hotel like rooms ) and you will be paying minimum tip to the boy. It's either fixed by the venue but often boys have their own minimum tips. I saw those as low as 800 at some Saphan Kwai places but as hight as 3000-4000 at Jey or Apollo. Guys at upper end are stunners indeed so pricing themselves accordingly. You will be informed about that before session or if booking on line thay tell you what boys' minimum tip is. 5000 including tips is most likely outcall , when spa sends boy to your room. In such a case spa may ask for deposit or boy ask for money before he even undresses

most popular I heard over years is roommate forgot / lost key, motorbike is parked in wrong spot and yes, somebody in family had accident and he needs to go to hospital. I also recall 4am story ' I need to go now because I promised my friend to help with moving this morning" Whatever those stories are I don't see any sense of resisting and I just let them go taking my revenge next time they try to get another off . I tell them bluntly, no because last time you went earlier than agreed. Usually they use those tricks when they initially agree to long time just to land a deal and they don't have any inclination to stay that long or they find me boring and decide going back to bar or to bed is better option. So much for guys needing money. On another hand I don't mind if they tell me in advance they need to go. On this trip I had three legitimate early leavers, two cases were relatives in hospital indeed, enforced with pictures at their beds there. Another one was need to pick up somebody from bus station but it was announced when offing and mamasan was asked to inform me about that too.

Day 7 we woke up at 6 and after short wrestling session and shower went for breakfast. That early I expected hotel restaurant to be empty and to my surprise it was almost full. Back in the room I tipped him. He did not seem to be happy, not that I was stingy. He likely noticed I’m surprised with his reaction so put himself together and said ‘thank you Buddha”. That’s better I thought. Problem with occasional over generous tip is that some guys expect it to be permanent fixture and that was likely a case. Today MA and me have tourist program – visit at GMMTV , producer of so many BL series headquarters in Ratachada. We went there by subway. There;s whole procedure before admission to gift shop on 30 something floor. We were told to leave passports on reception before we could enter elevator. Gift shop was mobbed by Asian girls so we both were bit out of place but they were [patiently waiting when we were browsing screens with memorial trinkets they offer for sale . At end of day nothing took our fancy but it was fun. Then we had coffee in Starbucks in the lobby , there were dozens of fans camping there hoping to catch the glimpse of one of their stars I guess. Then we parted ways. I went to Rama IX Central nearby on hunting mission. One of my most favorite guys of all times , M from Senso is hairdresser in one of shops there. I tried to spot him previously but did not succeed and neither I did today. Hope dies last though, it’s always next time ! Upon return to the room and it was already 3 pm I was surprised it was not cleaned yet but I went to XOne to change some money and when I returned it was already tidied. This afternoon I have meeting with guy I met by chance in one of previous trips who is not a guy from the scene. We talked occasionally from time to time . Last time we talked , one of us , I don’t remember who , suggested we should have dinner together one day . Today was the day. Kao is his name or at least it’s how he wants me to call him. I did not have any expectancies but was very curious to see if something more than talk and meal together comes out of it. He arrived on the dot at 5 as agreed. If this trip proved something it was that most boys are very punctual and on time contrary to what some slanderous farangs may say. To break the ice we went to place across hotel with some stalls and had some Lao craft beer there. When subject of something more substantial came he suggested meal in Sizzler on Silom. I liked idea although I don’t usually dine there but few years ago had birthday meal at the place with two other boys in tow. Surprisingly he suggested we walk there, so much about Thai guys being reluctant to walk. Reason given was even more endearing ‘ we will have more time to talk” ( his English is good conversational although he admitted he speaks tongue but doesn’t write it). That was a good sign no doubt. He was visibly reluctant to order as prices there are quite high but I made it easy for him “ do you want that steak?” , ‘too expensive “ , ‘ ok, one for you , one for me “. But I liked fact that he was trying not to take advantage of being treated. Best part came when we were considering drinks ‘ I have a juice, we can buy some beers at 7/11 and drink it in your room “ . Hearing it I thought I just have a stroke as it was something I was afraid even to dream about , him in my room , whoa !!! Nasty surprise came when we went to settle a bill. Not it’s size ( 2045 , not a cheap place I told you ) but fact they don’t take a cash. . Normally I don’ use plastic when I travel unless not given a choice and in Thailand I don’t even carry cards with me , keeping them in safe box. I like cash. If Guardian Angel did not suggest I take wallet with me just in case I wouldn’t. If I did not it were so embarrassing. I generally boycott places refusing to take cash and now I’m even more inclined to boycott them so likely it was my last visit at Sizzler Silom in this life for that very reason. Uff ! So we did as planned , stocked up on beer at 7/11 near hotel and went straight to the room. Yes, we drank all that beer and had very nice conversation and yes, as evening was unfolding we slowly but surely become bit more closer and closer but that’s nobody’s business. From what I thought it will be sober and well behaved evening it turned out to be quite romantic and interesting one even if two things were excluded by Kao from the menu – kiss and long time. Not that he was in rush to go , I was trying to use fact that he drunk quite a bit to keep him here even pointing to the fact that there’s bed in bedroom a but also sofa in the living room but he was firm “ I drive slowly and will sleep at home “. So around midnight I decided I let him go, I did not want him to get too drunk. We already agreed to met on another day this trip. It was one thing I was not sure how to handle not to create any offense to such great guy. You got it – should I tip or not. I decided to abandon any pretense of diplomacy and asked straight away “ can I give you some money?” to get an answer “ of course”. So I did. Long live Thailand where casual conversation may lead to such great afternoon and evening I thought when he closed door.

Day 6 SK did not go with me for breakfast, only in the morning he told me his brother is sick and he need to go to hospital to visit him. He did not elaborate and when I asked he did not seem to be keen on talking about that. Otherwise lazy morning . busy doing nothing but filled with anticipation as at 12.30 I was expecting a visit from MJ’s friend , one who was with us on that Baiyoke Sky dinner. Hunky , handsome and skilled masseur. Another one who showed on the dot and we had great session. Bonus was he did not seem to be in rush at all. Secret was revealed when he was ready to go - he had another appointment in on of Sathorn hotels around the corner. He even said something about him having great business day. Afternoon I was even more busy doing noting other than stroll to new Foodland to eat something. Not much though as at 8.30 pm MA and I were supposed to dine at G’Bangkok. Always great food and atmosphere there. After the meal we took easy stroll across the soi to see first show at Banana. Mamasan Lucy seemed bit subdued, did not even bother to come and ask for tip, not that I complain. Hope she is Ok. Show was quite long , mostly lip syncing by pert-time divas but audience seemed to enjoy it so we both forced ourselves to enjoy it as well. At 11 pm we decided to see what is going ok in Moonlight. When we arrives show was almost over but bar was still packed, weekend I guess. Muscle god A spotted me right away, came all smiles , true to form I did not waste time either and told him no boy drink , dress up please and soon off we will go . Waiting for him I finished my drink ogling boys on stage . Spotted new cute boy # 5 and hunky # 45. Y was on the stage as well so on departure I tipped him and #45 just for good luck. A was hungry so we went to Happy Beer Garden around the corner to feed him , I was not hungry but ordered some gyozas to keep him company. Waitress Joy was happy to see me and I did not take any offence when she announced loudly ‘ O my God , my daddy is here”. I even treated her with Thai whisky at her own modest request. After we were done A proudly showed me his new motorcycle, not motorbike mind you, parked in front of Moonlight so we went to hotel big time in style. In the room some beer and our traditional wrestling, I always loose but I’m still proud it takes some effort for such a hunk to eventually crush me. He warned me that he needs to leave early which I did not mind as long as I am warned in advance, specially the he told me why and it was kind of serious thing he needs to take care of.

that's novelty for me

it was typo, was supposed to be " bars", lol Hope somebody will see if new bar which was supposed to open across from Hot Male in old Dreamboys site materialized and if yes, how is it?

it's Nature Boys/Golden Cock. you must pass by Tawan, did you look there ? When I do my survey after arrival my first steps are Patpong 2 , soi4 and Thaniya toward Moonlight. Super A and nature Boys are kind of niche bras. Waiting for your impressions from Patpong

yes, follow scott's advice above. Your first port of call should be Tawan Bar in Silom soi 6 which specializes in your ( and accidentally also mine among others ) type, you will find big guy abound there. Also Arena , Sabaidee and Jey Spa massage venues are offering plenty of biggies. Guys in Tawan will approach you, they are not shy. Not shy to quote above market rates too so don't lose your head on first visit. Watch your zipper too as you may destroy it accidentally.