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when comes to me and Thai trips it doesn't work. If I arrive in the morning I want to have an access to shower and room right away instead of risking to wait till 2-3 pm so usually book room in some economical hotel like Nantra Silom for the night before and then move to something upscale like Baan Silom etc. for following night or next day The same for those flights departing late evening or just past midnight - I book room for that night as well for the same reason

....... in 2100 megaprojects started in 2050 , 27 years from now, will be already aging. even if such drop will happen it won't be (hopefully) overnight but very gradually, leaving plenty of time for population and states to adapt. I'd not panic, not even because I don't expect to see those 2050 megaprojects

thank you , it means seat beside me will be free to allow for more elbow space.

sure, they need money when will be released from prison I guess

yes you can as Barack Obama would say. In May after week in Thailand I went to Kuala Lumpur , Malaysia for few days and upon return to Thailand I got another 30 days stamp. When you leave your 30 days stamp is expiring and you will get new one upon return

Tawan or other bar boys will be asking for 2000-3000 short time (1-3 hrs ), 3000-5000 long time (overnight) , on top iof that you will pay off fee to bar , usually 500. boys from apps may be everything between 1000 to , as you noticed 6000 but since they are freelancing feel free to bargain down, worst that may happen they say no ( and 2 hours later contact you with Ok, Ok ) In spa you will pay massage fee 300-1250 depending on spa, length of session and room used (some rooms at say, Jey are luxurious , hotel like rooms ) and you will be paying minimum tip to the boy. It's either fixed by the venue but often boys have their own minimum tips. I saw those as low as 800 at some Saphan Kwai places but as hight as 3000-4000 at Jey or Apollo. Guys at upper end are stunners indeed so pricing themselves accordingly. You will be informed about that before session or if booking on line thay tell you what boys' minimum tip is. 5000 including tips is most likely outcall , when spa sends boy to your room. In such a case spa may ask for deposit or boy ask for money before he even undresses

most popular I heard over years is roommate forgot / lost key, motorbike is parked in wrong spot and yes, somebody in family had accident and he needs to go to hospital. I also recall 4am story ' I need to go now because I promised my friend to help with moving this morning" Whatever those stories are I don't see any sense of resisting and I just let them go taking my revenge next time they try to get another off . I tell them bluntly, no because last time you went earlier than agreed. Usually they use those tricks when they initially agree to long time just to land a deal and they don't have any inclination to stay that long or they find me boring and decide going back to bar or to bed is better option. So much for guys needing money. On another hand I don't mind if they tell me in advance they need to go. On this trip I had three legitimate early leavers, two cases were relatives in hospital indeed, enforced with pictures at their beds there. Another one was need to pick up somebody from bus station but it was announced when offing and mamasan was asked to inform me about that too.

Day 7 we woke up at 6 and after short wrestling session and shower went for breakfast. That early I expected hotel restaurant to be empty and to my surprise it was almost full. Back in the room I tipped him. He did not seem to be happy, not that I was stingy. He likely noticed I’m surprised with his reaction so put himself together and said ‘thank you Buddha”. That’s better I thought. Problem with occasional over generous tip is that some guys expect it to be permanent fixture and that was likely a case. Today MA and me have tourist program – visit at GMMTV , producer of so many BL series headquarters in Ratachada. We went there by subway. There;s whole procedure before admission to gift shop on 30 something floor. We were told to leave passports on reception before we could enter elevator. Gift shop was mobbed by Asian girls so we both were bit out of place but they were [patiently waiting when we were browsing screens with memorial trinkets they offer for sale . At end of day nothing took our fancy but it was fun. Then we had coffee in Starbucks in the lobby , there were dozens of fans camping there hoping to catch the glimpse of one of their stars I guess. Then we parted ways. I went to Rama IX Central nearby on hunting mission. One of my most favorite guys of all times , M from Senso is hairdresser in one of shops there. I tried to spot him previously but did not succeed and neither I did today. Hope dies last though, it’s always next time ! Upon return to the room and it was already 3 pm I was surprised it was not cleaned yet but I went to XOne to change some money and when I returned it was already tidied. This afternoon I have meeting with guy I met by chance in one of previous trips who is not a guy from the scene. We talked occasionally from time to time . Last time we talked , one of us , I don’t remember who , suggested we should have dinner together one day . Today was the day. Kao is his name or at least it’s how he wants me to call him. I did not have any expectancies but was very curious to see if something more than talk and meal together comes out of it. He arrived on the dot at 5 as agreed. If this trip proved something it was that most boys are very punctual and on time contrary to what some slanderous farangs may say. To break the ice we went to place across hotel with some stalls and had some Lao craft beer there. When subject of something more substantial came he suggested meal in Sizzler on Silom. I liked idea although I don’t usually dine there but few years ago had birthday meal at the place with two other boys in tow. Surprisingly he suggested we walk there, so much about Thai guys being reluctant to walk. Reason given was even more endearing ‘ we will have more time to talk” ( his English is good conversational although he admitted he speaks tongue but doesn’t write it). That was a good sign no doubt. He was visibly reluctant to order as prices there are quite high but I made it easy for him “ do you want that steak?” , ‘too expensive “ , ‘ ok, one for you , one for me “. But I liked fact that he was trying not to take advantage of being treated. Best part came when we were considering drinks ‘ I have a juice, we can buy some beers at 7/11 and drink it in your room “ . Hearing it I thought I just have a stroke as it was something I was afraid even to dream about , him in my room , whoa !!! Nasty surprise came when we went to settle a bill. Not it’s size ( 2045 , not a cheap place I told you ) but fact they don’t take a cash. . Normally I don’ use plastic when I travel unless not given a choice and in Thailand I don’t even carry cards with me , keeping them in safe box. I like cash. If Guardian Angel did not suggest I take wallet with me just in case I wouldn’t. If I did not it were so embarrassing. I generally boycott places refusing to take cash and now I’m even more inclined to boycott them so likely it was my last visit at Sizzler Silom in this life for that very reason. Uff ! So we did as planned , stocked up on beer at 7/11 near hotel and went straight to the room. Yes, we drank all that beer and had very nice conversation and yes, as evening was unfolding we slowly but surely become bit more closer and closer but that’s nobody’s business. From what I thought it will be sober and well behaved evening it turned out to be quite romantic and interesting one even if two things were excluded by Kao from the menu – kiss and long time. Not that he was in rush to go , I was trying to use fact that he drunk quite a bit to keep him here even pointing to the fact that there’s bed in bedroom a but also sofa in the living room but he was firm “ I drive slowly and will sleep at home “. So around midnight I decided I let him go, I did not want him to get too drunk. We already agreed to met on another day this trip. It was one thing I was not sure how to handle not to create any offense to such great guy. You got it – should I tip or not. I decided to abandon any pretense of diplomacy and asked straight away “ can I give you some money?” to get an answer “ of course”. So I did. Long live Thailand where casual conversation may lead to such great afternoon and evening I thought when he closed door.

Day 6 SK did not go with me for breakfast, only in the morning he told me his brother is sick and he need to go to hospital to visit him. He did not elaborate and when I asked he did not seem to be keen on talking about that. Otherwise lazy morning . busy doing nothing but filled with anticipation as at 12.30 I was expecting a visit from MJ’s friend , one who was with us on that Baiyoke Sky dinner. Hunky , handsome and skilled masseur. Another one who showed on the dot and we had great session. Bonus was he did not seem to be in rush at all. Secret was revealed when he was ready to go - he had another appointment in on of Sathorn hotels around the corner. He even said something about him having great business day. Afternoon I was even more busy doing noting other than stroll to new Foodland to eat something. Not much though as at 8.30 pm MA and I were supposed to dine at G’Bangkok. Always great food and atmosphere there. After the meal we took easy stroll across the soi to see first show at Banana. Mamasan Lucy seemed bit subdued, did not even bother to come and ask for tip, not that I complain. Hope she is Ok. Show was quite long , mostly lip syncing by pert-time divas but audience seemed to enjoy it so we both forced ourselves to enjoy it as well. At 11 pm we decided to see what is going ok in Moonlight. When we arrives show was almost over but bar was still packed, weekend I guess. Muscle god A spotted me right away, came all smiles , true to form I did not waste time either and told him no boy drink , dress up please and soon off we will go . Waiting for him I finished my drink ogling boys on stage . Spotted new cute boy # 5 and hunky # 45. Y was on the stage as well so on departure I tipped him and #45 just for good luck. A was hungry so we went to Happy Beer Garden around the corner to feed him , I was not hungry but ordered some gyozas to keep him company. Waitress Joy was happy to see me and I did not take any offence when she announced loudly ‘ O my God , my daddy is here”. I even treated her with Thai whisky at her own modest request. After we were done A proudly showed me his new motorcycle, not motorbike mind you, parked in front of Moonlight so we went to hotel big time in style. In the room some beer and our traditional wrestling, I always loose but I’m still proud it takes some effort for such a hunk to eventually crush me. He warned me that he needs to leave early which I did not mind as long as I am warned in advance, specially the he told me why and it was kind of serious thing he needs to take care of.

that's novelty for me

it was typo, was supposed to be " bars", lol Hope somebody will see if new bar which was supposed to open across from Hot Male in old Dreamboys site materialized and if yes, how is it?

it's Nature Boys/Golden Cock. you must pass by Tawan, did you look there ? When I do my survey after arrival my first steps are Patpong 2 , soi4 and Thaniya toward Moonlight. Super A and nature Boys are kind of niche bras. Waiting for your impressions from Patpong

yes, follow scott's advice above. Your first port of call should be Tawan Bar in Silom soi 6 which specializes in your ( and accidentally also mine among others ) type, you will find big guy abound there. Also Arena , Sabaidee and Jey Spa massage venues are offering plenty of biggies. Guys in Tawan will approach you, they are not shy. Not shy to quote above market rates too so don't lose your head on first visit. Watch your zipper too as you may destroy it accidentally.

yes, I'm one of them. I have vague plans for yet another trip this year but made internal limit of how much I'm prepared to pay and so far offers are not even close to my limit, sigh.

or attracts more economizing customers because boys charge less. Old question what was first , hen or egg

Day 5 Quite active morning which is what I like. What I didn’t like but at least expected it was his tip request. As I said yesterday, he likes his tips over market , at least from me , lol. But since I always say I rather overpay and be happy than save money and be just Ok. So I succumbed to his bit inflated request (1000 more than I gave him initially). At least he worked for it, sand bag he is not, that’s sure. MJ joined us for breakfast, we resolved to go to MBK for Japanese dinner later on and parted ways. I took haircut on Silom and then went to new Foodland just opened in the basement of Silom Park. Menu in restaurant the same like in sisterly Foodland Patpong. In the store several good deals of 2 for 1 type , unfortunately not on items which interested me. Then to Coffee Grinder to met newly arrived this morning another member MA. It was a while since we met last time so a lot news to share, very esthetic task considering is sweetened by ogling their cute waiters. We agreed on Hot Male visit tonight. At 4 pm MJ and me were supposed to meet S on Sala Daeng platform but somehow S mixed it up and went to MBK . After ½ hr, of waiting we decided to cut our loses and went to Foodland Patpong instead, instructing S who called me in meantime to show there if he wants. He did so we had opulent 7 stars dinner together. After that MJ went his way and S suggested he will walk me to hotel but on our way we can drop at Silom Center as Central there has original Lee jeans on sale. Nice scheming and abuse of my soft spot for him but I tagged along. Indeed they were discounted to 1250 a piece and S wasted no time to point deal is valid on purchase of three pairs only. Ok I sighted but you will come to my room to try them afterward. Idea was accepted enthusiastically. Not only in the mall but also in the room so We had quite funny yet steamy short time session. Not that short by the way I’d say 1 hr. per pair. Not only tip free but visually strong as he looked in those jeans very well and with bleeding heart I was helping him to remove each pair, one after another. But when asked about repeat of last night I was rude enough to say I have cheaper option. He still left happy though. Around 9 pm 20 baht motosai to Silom and short walk to Hot Male. While crossing Silom walking I noticed familiar face. It took me few seconds to connect the dots . Arthur, porn actor featuring in “Beautiful Flower “ from GThai series among others. Smiled at him and got smile back when he marched past me. Stars smiling at me tonight thought I . At Hot Male MA and me had few drinks with boys in beer bar and then went for show upstairs. I was hoping certain SK will be there but he was not but mamasan offered to call him . By time show was over he arrived recognizing me immediately. So after all I did not lie to S that I have cheaper option tonight. Cheaper and sweet, time tested companion who never asked for anything other than to be offed again.

balm to my ears, hope it will happen.

Day 3 In the morning MJ joined Y and me breakfast and after breakfast I got bit amorous so asked Y to return to the room for a little bit more electoral discussions. 1 hour, 1 thousand , pure pleasure. Today I’m planning to see latest Indiana Jones movie, MK expressed an interest in that as well and so did Y as soon as I mentioned about such an opportunity. When Y left I went to Sam Yan Mitrtown to buy a tickets which turned out not necessary to do in advance as cinema was hardly crowded. In early afternoon MK and me walked there all the way from hotel. Y appeared at the same time, so much about boys not able to keep appointed time . As for movie itself I liked it, 2 hours action non stop although story itself bit too sophisticated for my liking but I won’t say more not to spoil it for those who did not have a chance to see movie yet. I asked Y if he will be interested in repeating last night which made him visibly happy, which in turn boosted my ego exponentially and I had sweetener for that deal too. MJ and his friend are planning seafood buffet dinner atop of Baiyoke Sky tonight, MJ asked me to join in as I know his friend and I in turn asked Y if he would be interested to attend. He smiled even more broadly thinking probably “that old fool is spoiling me today big time”. He arrived at hotel on the dot and at 6.30 pm our trio took taxi to Baiyoke where MJ’s friend was waiting for us already at the entrance. Great time was had by all, food and conversation were excellent although I couldn’t utilize food in full tending to be bit allergic to the seafood. After dinner we went to moving platform on the top to admire Bangkok by night and take some pictures. Great evening and great company. Upon returning to hotel we did not waste much time to return to our discussions, this time about subway plans for Asuncion , Paraguay and Maputo, Mozambique. Day 4 started soon after midnight. Somebody threw party and with walls paper thin it was noisy to a point of nuisance. I’m actually surprised that hotel management did not intervened as it could be certainly heard on reception. Since I had such company I was not that much interested in sleeping so we carried on. When they stopped it was already dawning so we got some sleep in the morning. Over breakfast conversation came to subject of Mahanakhon. Not sure who started it but it turned that Y never was there so I suggested we go today. Pilgrimage to that glass at 314 meters above the ground is my must do every trip. Y went home to change clothes and when we met at the tower 1.5 hr. later all I could say was ‘wow’ . Certainly he dressed for occasion. Yes, I saw few heads turning , both in lobby and at the top. Neither hysterics nor excessive sweating on the glass which can’t be said about every boy I invited there and I invited quite a few over years. I suggested we have a drink and was surprised that after carefully studying price list he asked for coffee, cheapest item. That guy is a gem. Not that I did not know before. Word of advice for those entertaining idea of taking boy there. Since that’s quite expensive foray please make sure that guy you are inviting there is really interested in going and not doing that just to make you happy. I had few guys who did not enjoy the heights and even one who said afterwards that he would prefer to receive half admission fee ( 880 baht ) in cash instead. Anyways Y was happy and so was I. After quite intensive 2 days in his company I told him he will be free tonight as I had other plans but promised to see him again. We do have chemistry , that’s good news. I returned to hotel to have a rest after sleepless night. In the afternoon I went to soi 6 where N, the masseur was surprised to see me . Of course we had massage session which turned more romantic than therapeutic. For dinner I suggested to MK Madrid Tavern to which he agreed and we went there by BTS and walked from Saphan Taksn Station. Lady’s reaction there was funny “ you still here, you told me last time you going home ?” so I explained that in fact I left and I’m back again. Not sure she was convicted though. Anyways pizza was great as always. We returned to Silom by bus and resolved to visit Tawan tonight as both MK and me are fond of their offerings. So hour or two later with pockets full I went there , MK was already in. as always I was mobbed by boys but used MK presence claiming he is my boyfriend and won’t be offing anybody tonight which eased a bit of tip requests. I was hoping S will be there and he was indeed so I secured him for long time tonight but we soldiered on in the bar till midnight when bar started emptying. Again it was no problem walking there, S modestly asked for some food on the street. Tonight my floor was quiet , no party , no noises so it felt like just S and me. He knows what I like and I know what he likes (over market tips ) so again great chemistry.

there are no underwear tight enough that 100 baht note won't be squeezed in

good, more boys left for us

Thailand is the best country to provide it, rest assured

In Laos ? concentrate on temples and landscape, have a train ride to/from Luang Prabang. When desperate check apps for company but don't expect anything dramatic. Best Lao guys are already in Bangkok for a while

at current prices I must say that at Quarter SalaDaeng I had room of double size for 1/4 of Crowne Plaza price. During covid their prices were in my league ( I stay there 4 nights over Christmas 2021) but not any more. Location and amenities are great but not a place for poor pensioners , that sure thing.

and typing it brings best memories for me as well. That trip proved that tons of fun can be had in Thailand day and night those days despite of what some doomsayers may say.

I trained some of them well it seems