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From my experience answers is yes, sure they may have other duties so not always times, his and yours, my be aligned but quite often if I liked LT with guy I ask him to come during day and most often than not they agree. As long as I release him before his bar duty there's no off fee, if you want to keep him during bar time , you must pat bar fee. Usually I give him money and he will handle that. The same with massage guys , if they come after shop is closing there's no fee to be paid to the shop. Muscled guys take their gym time seriously and quite a few times we couldn't agree on timing during day because , believe or not, they preferred gym time to farang's tip. But likely is why they have bodies like they have - due to sticking to a training regime so I never held it against them.

keep trying , keep trying , in meantime suffer in silence , LOL

like they couldn't just charge them up front which would save lives one in Complex bears name ZING RESORT, another one, on main street is ZING HOTEL

did somebody actually braved in to see the show and guys?

while butterflying has it's own advantages so does staying with known quality. I'm not sure it's related to growing in years or just getting more experience but when I see two guys smiling at me in the bar, one known and other new to me there's at ;east 60% chance I'd go with one I know already.

yes, if you are interested in any of the staff in the bars or massages , investigate discreetly if they are willing to go with you. They may , even if normally they don't do it Best source are themselves so ask them directly bypassing intermediaries although if you are familiar with other guy from that venue you may ask him about this or that waiter / mamasan / masseur. Your chances are increasing if you already known in the place so one guy may pimp his work friend to you. Don't get discouraged if idea is rejected first time, try again later in the evening or few days later. Speaking from experience.

perhaps to lift anybody's spirit even more we should remind ourselves that story reported by paulsf https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/10874-different-kind-of-bangkok-happy-ending/

it's tempting to say , many of their patrons are surprisingly honest too. being moneyboy does not make one more prone to dishonesty IMNSHO. In 20 trips I had only one case when guy, who was a bit drunk , took visible interest in my shirt pocket so I felt bit dis-comfortable . It was in Happy Boys , now defunct bar in Sunny Plaza vicinity. Other than that never ever in bar or massage I had any problems. It's one of reasons I like Thailand , never need to look behind my back. Still basic sensible precaution should be taken, no need to take wad of 20 1000 baht notes when visiting bar although 20 20 baht notes may help, particularly in Nice Boys , Sunee

it greatly depends on our preferred type, if guy I offed had ID showing they are borderline 18 or even 22 it would mean only one thing for me - ID is fake .

I tend to ignore them in friendliest possible way and certainly don't let them be involved in my decision making process, I prefer to call prospective guys myself. But I'm not their enemy and few times / BBB, Screwboys , Moonlight / I find them very helpful i.e. ' you boy not here today but if you want I call him at home to come bar" , one at BBB was instrumental in convincing boy he should not to be reluctant to go with me because I'm good guy. So keep mamasans at bay with help of 50-100 baht tip and firm statement ' I like girls better ", works for me

nice bodies , all

they have guy at the elevator who takes care about those things , collecting ID and recording it in big book, when your companion is leaving he gets back his ID and must sign for it. Keep in mind your regular friends visiting you just far a talk or drink even during daytime will go through the same procedure. You will be called in the room to confirm all is in order. I agree with Boy 69, and find those measures unnecessary but it's non issue for me .

length of this thread proves otherwise

It would be nice to know what our members do with their money assuming anything is left after whoring in Thailand.

yes and offed him from there to discuss high speed railway Hanoi-Sapa. Drim , don't worry how Yoyo looks because he looks good, as we know good people look good

oh , yes , sure

your loss, not only well built and endowed guy but also very friendly and attitude free

I like your way of thinking depending of bar shows start between 10 and 10.45 and are usually close to advertised time. Coming earlier has advantage of picking up better seat and having a chance to ogle guys on display , perhaps even invite one of them to watch the show together over drink.

for hygiene and facilities my vote goes to MyHero in Sukhumvit soi 11, bit a distance from Silom ghetto but easy to get to. But like at Prince they tend to glance over massage part and go to second act as fast as possible, but agian , who goes to Thailand for massage?

it's named soi Wat Hualampong and is also handy as best shortcut from Suriwong to San Yam MRT station

if boy cums you pay off fee and of course increase his tip

Bangkok Massage is in the epicenter of action , right under Lucky Boys. Along with arena and Senso opend early afternoon , like 2 or 3 p.m. In soi you have Adam and Nakarat , they may be opening earlier like noonish. Tons of massage shops along Suriwong and Silom as well as in soi 6 , one connecting both. Most open early and all with handsome / cute guys but it may be more matter of luck and trying to get in those what you want - which is fun itself. Just turn your gaydar on and wade in hour or two after breakfast.

yes, he was still at Jupiter about month ago when I was there

answer is NO unless one finds oasis and bushes in that oasis but even those won't be as lush I suppose

thank you to all who respond , it looks it may heal itself . At least I don't need to trash my comp since others got similar issues occasionally.