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Exactly. This was my first thought when I got initially upset over those friend's drinks. If he did not take me there I was not planning to go to Dreamboys that trip although I could see Dit smoking outside when passing by or sitting at HotMale across. But chances for that were statistically slim. So I was not upset or angry, just pissed off but also better educated what may happen. But chances are next time he suggests the same or similar I will go for it. At end of day I won reunion with Dit and he lost LT as he was candidate nr1 for repeat off two nights later but for obvious reasons I asked Dit to go with me.

I don't like either but what a body !!! and not a bad personality. Sometimes we don't have it at 100%, may be 57% may be 71% and we need to choose, yes or no. It's why I published details , just to show readers what kind of pitfalls we need to sort out sometimes.

well, jason just read my report , it's why he knows, it's all there

Tawan reopened in new location diagonally across the soi at some point in Januray or February this year.

when I trekked Himalayas in Nepal I saw plenty of those in villages on the way. Some even offered warm shower at certain times of the day

Day 15 In the morning breakfast in hotel. I start missing my morning trips to world famous multi star Foodland and I suspect personnel there may wonder where’s that farang showing with different boy or other farangs every few hours? 4 days in Pattaya then 3 in hotel with breakfast, time to return where I belong. That’s easy, at 12 on the dot I left hotel, took motorsai for 60 baht and few minutes later I was checking in “At 21 Saladaeng”. Not quite hotel, more like serviced apartments but they have short time rentals ( not by the hour mind you) available on Agoda so I took a plunge for fun of it as I never stay there but knew somebody who did. They checked me right away without need to wait for 2 or 3 p.m. like in some places so I could Line K to come as soon as he finishes his workouts. It was first of those ‘more than once” I promised him”. Room at “ At 21 Saladaeng’ is more like small apartment with separate living room, full kitchen and a bedroom, lots of storage space too, not that I need much with my 7 kg carry on luggage only. Warning in that place – reception is open only during day time so no check in and presumably check out at night. Location is convenient, short walk from Silom past now closed Senso. Across the soi during day is market with lots of food options and some goodies for sale. On the ground floor there’s upscale Zanotti Italian restaurant Soon K lined me that he is coming so I went downstairs to help him in case there will be problem with parking his motorbike , was none , they just showed him where’s motorbike section , I forced 50 baht into attendant palm and we went upstairs where I had very bright idea of massaging him. That’s ridiculous , to pay inflated short time rate to boy to do nothing, just turn over when motioned. But I did more stupid things in my life and this actually was not as stupid as it sounds since we both enjoyed it. He did not fake being satisfied with my strokes because in few places he actually instructed me that pressure is too high / legs/ and too gentle / shoulders / . So I can say we had fun having fun as massage obviously did not fill all that, rather long , short time encounter . After session we went to soi 4 for a dinner. Since he had motorbike we travelled in style. Guardian Angel intervened and suggested K to park his bike at Tawan and then we could walk to soi 4. When we walked I saw familiar face, very familiar but who the hell he is? That question mark was visible on my face so guy hastened with introduction “ I’m Neo, Namo’s brother “ . What a surprise , another unexpected reunion. They both worked in Bangkok massage in soi Twilight and after that he was working at their new location in Patpong 2 while Namo went to Senso to be captain there. I know Neo only from chance meetings at massage , small talks, wais and handshakes but Namo is something else, along with certain Tao from BBB Inn with 11 offs is my third most offed guy in human history ! So inevitable I asked question how his brother is doing and where he is working now. Answer was freezing – while skating!!! In Thailand !!! he broke his leg and did it badly so for last 2 months he is stuck in his room very slowly recovering. Since he was going to work at Paradise massage in soi 6 and he saw me being with company we exchanged Line with promise to continue that way, to which I added I will visit him at his work at one point. But that news derailed me a bit as Namo obviously was one of my favorites for quite long time. Later on he helped me to get Line from Namo who send me picture of his injury and it was not a pleasant sight but recovery is at least progressing although much slower than he hopes. We will have more surprises in that subject later. After that surprise meeting K and me continued to G’Bangkok for our dinner and I must say my companion was head turner , fact noticed even by the owner. I imagine there were some nasty comments in the background in line with “such hunk wasting his time with some old fart, poor caricature of KFC man” but who cares ? I was that fart and hunk was dining with me ! After dinner we parted ways and in the evening I went for a beer to Hot Male to a delight of tiny Lao there and from there to Moonlight. As you may recall, yesterday I promised A the hunk to take him today and be prepared to pay his somewhat inflated tip. But he is worth it. Only 3 models on duty today , A was on the scene with some good looking new boy , smiled seeing me so I motion him to come, he suggested we go to Dreamboys because he wants to see his friend there. Why I should care ? thought I but before I dismissed idea Guardian Angel for second time today passed by and touched me with feather which I understand as order ‘ shut up and go you fool”. Off we went not waiting for show there since we were about to see one in Dreamboys. We arrived bit early so fully dressed boys were presenting themselves on the scene and I couldn’t believe whom I saw there !. Dit, formerly from Arena, world record holder with 15 offs over the years . Last time I saw him 4 if not 5 years ago, when I was in Arena in December they told me he went home, in short I thought I will never see him again. And this is exactly word for word what he told me when he came over. He remembered my name and where I’m coming from and even where I was born. I too remembered where he is from. No I did not waste money on drink for him , tipped him 500 instead and told him after tomorrow we have proper Long Time reunion since I was engaged tonight and had firm plans for tomorrow. As we learn later , after tomorrow will be more significant thus more suitable for such reunion , mother of all reunions. I did not forget I’m with A tonight , he won’t let me. A pointed at his friend and asked me to give him 200 so he can tip his friend. Some people have a nerve ! I don’t mind tipping his friend though but can do it myself so I took that 2 reds , went to the stage and using now world famous and patented Vinapu tuck I placed notes deep into friends briefs to an applause of audience as it was deep enough I could find that everything is in place THERE. That was not last of A’s antics today , while I was talking to Dit he invited his friend for a not one but two drinks ,beer and shot of some spirit , of course on my tab without even bothering to ask me. Not that friend bother to thank me either. But on such festive evening I let it go. We watched show, today there was f..k show as well and when performers approached me armed with 2 red notes I actually checked insertion to a second applause tonight. I could see that A did not approve it and immediately lent me a tissue to wipe my hand from KY or whatever ointment they were using. When setting a bill , for 4 drinks it was 1750 when change arrived before I could do anything A took 100 baht and tipped waiter and this was third antic I did not like. In bar for drinks I tip 20 baht per waiter’s trip regardless how many drinks he brings so it would be 40 , not 100. Why I’m writing all that ? For readers to learn what kind of pitfalls may await them when they go to a bar with guy who takes them for granted. As much as I like A , I did not like it. ATM don’t have it easy , do they? No pre-off dinner tonight, I was not hungry, he did not mention it and I , smarting after paying for those 2 friend’s drinks did not ask. In the room though all went very well. Such massive chiseled muscles at my disposal! In the morning we even had wrestling match which I lost but not that easy. Like my grandmother used to say “ in old stove devil sets flame “ . So at end of day 15 antics forgiven and forgotten but lesson learned.

round the world or just London- Bangkok ?

I heard those complaints about beds many times but after so many trips and so many hotels, which I change every 2-3 nights just for fun I still can't say I know what it is all about. Nothing wrong with Tarntawan beds as far as I see other than at times they seem to be cold so I need to organize bed warmer. But this is a case of all hotels in Thailand I ever stay Dusit Thani is just memory without beds and at the same time construction place like Peter just reported above. Hotel, once tallest building in Thailand, was razed last year I guess. I stay at Crowne Plaza for 4 night over Christmas last year, took advantage of covid slump and their low (relatively at 1800 baht, breakfast in ) rates. Now they raised them substantially. I liked it there, breakfast was kind of opulent but will not stay there until perhaps next slump, God forbid ( slump , not stay), just too costly for cheap skate like me. Room was well appointed and organized with great view but quite small, half of Raya's Executive Suite for the same price (then , now perhaps twice ). but for people who like to splurge on hotels Crowne Plaza is definitely recommended, location , location , location

no , map shows old Tawan location ( # 27 ), now bar moved across the soi and quite possible it's in old Tomahawk location (#26). I remember Tomahawk but can't swear it was exactly in that unit. By the way , random look at Dreaded Ned website back on 2001 made me interested on Thailand when I was planning Burma and Cambodia trip so I can say his website is father of my 22 Thai trips

socialize rather with younger crowd , they are usually more upbeat. Expats have plenty of time to organize themselves semi -permanent massage guys and negotiate much lower prices. We people on holidays don't want to lose our two -weeks millionaire status and tip more generously

I rather stick to K at 5000 baht and V at 3000 But I have very little doubt those celebrities may have takers at $12000 per night

when I was visiting Patpong Museum early in Jun guide told me that owner moved business to new premises somewhere on Charoen Krung, now we know. But New location signs says "Madrid Cafe and bistro" which coupled with old location of Madrid Tavern not looking completely abandoned leave me hope that Madrid Tavern still may be resurrected. Time will tell

right we have here two terminals connected by people mover and underground pedestrian tunnel , signs pointing to which are almost impossible to notice for uninitiated

don't you guys have some knitting to do ?

we all have our own prescription as what stands for good vacation time

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I have feeling I know who you are talking about. He proudly showed me his sons working as well. No need to be jealous , we just talked as he helped me to make sure certain Yo will see me as soon as he reports for work . On my last trip before covid I saw him working in one of massage places along Suriwong , not sure in what capacity, masseur or captain.

not that I care but staff at every hotel I stay with exception of possibly Classrooms with their discreet key operated entrance knows my routine . Out in the morning with guy in tow going for breakfast, somebody coming mid-day and 2-3 hrs. later I'm walking guy in at least to the street ( I always do that unless guy who came was flop, then I don't care), out at 7.30-8.30 and back with friend (rarely two of them). if polite question ' can I rape you ? " is considered rape, than answer is yes. I declined because I don't have habit of being raped on odd day and in fact on even days either.

as others said above , too expensive. I rather spent money on overpaying my offs. While every trip I try to splurge or 2-3 nights on something better - better hotel or more spacious room in existing one, just to see how it is I find additional amenities and luxuries don't do much for me. I'm not one to try to impress my guests either. What I found about luxury accommodation when I try it, is that I tend to spend more time inside basking in that opulence while bare bones room seem to chase me away. What I do like is spacious room, it's why I like Classrooms in Pattaya. Big size , not too much of furniture, dancing size of free space. I grew up in cramped apartment and this is possibly reason I like all that useless space. I'm not saying spending money on better accommodation is a waste but that it does not to much for me. Quite possible in the future I will try Le Meridien for those 2 nights of better accommodation, tried Amara , tried Crown Plaza, why not?. that true but I wouldn't count on that lasting too long and my advice would be to book suitable accommodation as soon as travel plans are crystalized. Most hotels I stay in December raised their prices substantially by next trip in May. Some still offer penalty free cancellation almost up to the last day. you did much better job than me comparing Tarntawan to Furama Sathorn, thank you . At end of day whatever choice one makes it will work. On my last trip my first night was in Tarntawan and while desk was still there by elevator it was not manned so chances are that they abandoned that ID checking, definitely they did not do to my guest As for breakfast is not necessity ever since Foodland Patpong was awarded 7th Michelin star even if they raised price of their breakfast by 5 baht but if hotel offers it and price difference , if any , is sensible I go for it. In Furama case it was lime 100 baht for 2. Often hotels are offering free or economically priced breakfast only for certain rooms, at times chepest , at times most expensive so it's worth to comb through offers. Nantra seemed closed in May, not sure they are opened but we can ask reader to check as he may be passing by there daily on his walks. Yes they started slacking on maintenance and in meantime other places in vicinity offered similar pricing so I stopped staying there even before covid . Yes , we can take advantage of cheap rates and book rooms for possible short time engagement. I did it with The Venue this trip and with Furama Silom and some hotel on Beach Rd in Pattaya in December and utilized them way it was intended, Actually in Venue it was whole , steamy night( A/C was working )as reported already.

right, I you reported you offed somebody short time and reported tipping him 8877 or even just 8800 rest assured you would be stoned by some within hour of arrival just for spoiling market for others

it's exactly why I like him, at least in the picture. In order to follow on that I need to see that spark in the eye and / or the smile directed at me

that and result of rising fuel prices. We can't do much other than comb for relative bargains or just give up and see what market forces will bring us to. My sister lives in country half way between me and Thailand and price to fly there is almost the same so for me Thailand is still like bargain

that calculation I always have in mind when looking for prices of flights to Thailand

# me too day without off or at least massage is vacation day lost. Happened to me in my early days but then I saw mistake of wasting passing days. Of course my trip are somewhat short 1-2 weeks , one coming for month or two can afford being less stiff with time. As for jet-lag , my worst day is usually third and with age I noticed is getting worse and worse

I'm not good with technology I guess