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thank God we humans are very adaptable to changing circumstances. Travel expenses can be reduced by being more diligent looking for better deal, booking early , travelling mid-week, gnashing teeth in economy class , going for less convenient connections etc. With abundance of rooms in BKK and Pattaya hotels there always will be good deal on accommodation although we may settle for less luxurious than our usual options. When comes to food as you noticed we have great scope for savings by dining in cheaper places and on the street. What we may reduce if necessary is social dining, in my case watching where I'm inviting my offs to have their meals . Even in entertainment we can recuse out spending by resorting from time to time to cheaper places ( two massages at Senso or Prince = three of the same length at Bangkok Massage or Arena), replacing LT with ST from time to time or even giving ourselves whoring break every so often. Being loyal to particular guy may give us scope to look for deal on tip from him. Keeping cool head in bar helps too , one drink is enough, if we are offing guy known to us no need to buy him a drink and does mamasan really deserve that 100 baht tip just because she smiles at us? Shortening trip be few days may help and reducing number of annual trips may produce some savings and above everything setting realistic budget and sticking to it my help - worked for me on last trip , first in time immemorial without trip to ATM.

thank you for a tip about rooftop bar in Silom Plaza, I was in Arena gazillion times and did not know there's roof top bar in the building. I guess this is what happens when one's eyes are foggy from thinking about all those muscled guys there and of what they hide in their undies. After two failed tries I suggest remove J from your mailing list, two chances are enough and don't count on any improvement

enjoy while it lasts, it never hurts to feel young again

try shot of gin before practice , should work

in short Patpong 2 and it bars are good for your health which we subconsciously realized already but now are fully supported by the science

welcome back yup, we are approaching rapidly 100 000 views of this thread

it never happened so far but I always say that my best encounter would be if I take guy just for hand holding session and on departure will ask him if he can come for the some in the afternoon. At end of day is whole guy who counts , not just his hole.

most likely they were BBoys and yes , while many are salivating I never saw anybody reporting luck with offing one of those guys so they must be out or reach , at least for now.

rather skillfully pretending to be....

this is what happens when somebody writes crappy, boring report I guess. LOL

considering tittle of this thread answer to second question obviously is 'yes' but you need to answer this question : is easy life worth living?

I don't think you want plan that, try to find the guy you like and are comfortable with and let things take its course naturally. When you feel your blood it's at boiling point , you will know now it's time.

everybody is welcomed to contribute whatever they wish although chances are people looking for Philippines information may not necessarily be looking into thread tittled ' '20th trip to Thailand", lol

glad to hear Tiger worked for you , he is great guy but sometimes must be kept on short leash. Highly recommended

thanks God

1. try to avoid making such commitments as next time you will be walking by guy may expect that you keep your word 2. climbing all those stairs was probably more strenuous than just walking to your hotel , no wonder you have foot problem with lack of exercise 3. that's cardinal sin, not bothering to go out . Where's bother ? two days in row - you become serial sinner, watch out !

another golden words in short about QBF experience - try it, communicate issues very early and if it doesn't work , cut it off fast

golden words

all that messaging back and forth seems to do more harm than good as it gives an opportunity for excuses and huge wastage of time. I tell them be here at that time and it seems to be working very well. Few times they missed their time I was gone and found new opportunities ie. my money went somewhere else. I know lesson was learned. I'd take that absence as warning sign but still would give him a chance but whole phone thing showed clearly he is not interested and I'd cut it out very fast, but as OP noticed , lesson learned

it could be worse, imagine him clinging to you every second of each day ( Ok, bathroom breaks excluded ) and at end getting very emotional at good bye part. At least you got your freedom

Room at IResidence looks quite nice. Never stay there but passed by it many times on my way from Chong Nonsi to soi 3. Location is superb indeed. Sorry to hear your QBE / quasi boyfriend experience / did not work. But if we don't try we will not know, right? It's one thing to have fabulous 1-2 hours massage or short time but long time is different matter. You right that guy don't need to spent every waking hour with you in such arrangement although in the room I'd say he should be available all the time. Its wise though to give him free time outside hotel. When I took Z from Pattya to BKK in Sept rule imposed on him by me was that during day he is free man but at night time he should be with me in the room ( it did not work quite lie that but we were close catching for lost night time in a broad daylight). Your smoking was likely not reason for his behavior although it's always nice to be considerate. Yes you could communicate better what you expect, it always works as guys are not mind readers and signals we send may be misinterpreted. If you enter room together and and your first moments are spent on the phone instead of on him, that is unmistakably signal that he can do the same - not sure it was a case. Strong prolonged hug, including wandering had here and there ( although not THERE ) it's always first thing i do after door are closed. I get feel of him and he gets reminder what he is here for. No, you did not need to spoil him more , guys are coming with us not to be spoiled , they expect cash compensation and spoilage and gifts are not substitutes for it, just icing on the cake even if very generous. Whole phone thing could be avoided either by communicating clearly he should put it away or if you shy to do it , by placing your hand on the screen so he can see that you don like of what he is doing. Works for me 100 % 1000 and even 2000 for a whole night is not overwhelming tip for BKK standards but if that's what he asked for that's fine. refusing that 1000 / plate buffet was right thing , it would sent wrong signal as to your spending habit and potential. After few good days , yes, but not at the first try In my opinion you did not do anything wrong other that not stopping phone nonsense immediately . As often , memories of first encounter for both of you did not translate into anything exciting after months of absence. One of those cases when we wonder what we saw in that guy at the first place. In future it will most likely happen again with other guys as well. Don't worry about anything , just carry on with burden of fun. If he contacts you looking for another time together if you feel like seeing him forget about malls and restaurants , bring him right to the room and tell him to leave that phone off moment he pulls it from his pocket.. Do the same with yours. If you don't want to see him , just tell him that it's not option for now, don't lie about seeing in few days if you don't have such intention. If he asks why, mention that phone " you like your phone more than me' for example. Have fun and don't forget about us here, we are waiting ...........

I did not have anybody particular in mind but it happens very often in all places , I hope guy at least will look at me and fake a smile but to no avail so I'm forced to pass him on. It's why I offed only two Moonlight models (plus one who was not model yet when I offed him ) even if I like a look of almost all of them

don't look for excuses, look for ways of doing it, LOL For plenty of us here English is not a first nor even second language so don't worry

that can be safely said about any model and in fact any guy, there will be always those who look at him with awe all the way to those who will never get what's so attractive about this or that guy. This is lesson I learned from multiple visits of bars in company of other members. It's why recommendations as well as bad reviews must be always taken with pinch of salt and gulp of cold water. Picture says even less than words, two dimensional guy may look differently than live and warm on stage in three dimensions with broad smile ( and a shoulders ) or on opposite side with grumpy look " I don't like being here and I don't like you either" dissolving in acid all handsomeness or/and cuteness impression.

thank you for the link, I also noticed that Asian or at least south-east Asian guys don't like prolonged eye-contact and always are asking ' what?" when I look intense into their eyes but I soothe them with ' you are so handsome' response