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Like kokopelli I like being bored but unfortunately it never happens on vacation , in particular on Thai vacations. Perhaps fact that I'm there 1-3 weeks as well as spending it mostly in Bangkok rather than Pattaya helps to keep occupied. In fact I always wish I had a bit more time ( and much more money ). I sleep very little and wake up usually early which is blessing as I like long times and gentle molestation of sleeping beauty is part of Thai charms. I walk plenty so it's time consuming obviously although in BKK traffic not necessarily more than sitting in sea on cars, usually have some sightseeing idea to fill day times. When really there's nothing to do there's always book . I don't watch TV , don't go to the movies, shop very little, eat fast and still have that feeling that day is too short. Afternoon hours are perfect for massage as noted above and when darkness falls it's dinner ( only if I'm hungry or there's social situation ) and bar hopping or parking myself in just one. How one can be bored? I guess it falls to budget issues as most of 'keeping busy ' activities require some outlay , either for daily fun or to take advantage of being there and do some serious sightseeing, not just to nearest mall or Ko Larn. Luang Prabang or Angkor are 1 hr flight away and those are world class , 7 stars attractions. I believe that with 4-6 in Pattaya some moment of boredom would fall on me during day time but Bangkok is very close and there's always trip report to be written for this forum to kill that yawning.

sex is probably the same , just sex infrastructure is different , no ?

unfortunately but logically those are problems associated with low room rates - not enough money for maintenance. That was problem with Om Yim , went to disrepair and it's now just hostel. I always wonder how Malaysia Hotel does it, charging economy but maintaining it properly? Perhaps size and economy of scale helps.

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you are right , usually our last trip is always the best although probably I shouldn't say that since I still my 12th one out of 17 was one I consider the best

I never saw anything such such risque in bars named above. Not sure they have rules but i have feeling is not done there in recent years. Others may chip in with different experience. Soi 6 bars - Tawan , Super A, Golden Cock and Nature boy are more adventurous, I saw hot actions , including one involved girl in Tawan. My guess would be such action will command substantial tip , perhaps even close to short tip tip. Farang rimming one of Tawan boys in the open brought himself to an explosion but if cost him 2000 tip. I think Pattaya , specially Sunee bars are better destinations for hard bar fun.

I think it's ChristianPFC's favorite place to stay in Pattaya

Even if that question was small talk only you should not waste such opportunity to ask boy if he wants to see your room .

correct attitude I also believe in but still our assessment of his worth must be done with our heads not cocks. Life is full of wasted opportunities so it's better to catch one from time to time , even if at some inflated expense

for the whole week ?

no , I really don't remember

they usually have free rooms , even in high season so i'm surprised they weren't able to accommodate you. If fun hotel top stay and location can't be bitten as it's in the same block soi twilight is, so lots of short time traffic there. I used to stay there every trip but with 1320 baht per night they were bitten in my heart by Nantra Silom with 1000 baht / night. Massage boys are available almost round clock but last time I was there price was 1700 , boy tip included and I learned that boy gets only 30 % i.e 510 baht out of that so if one wants to provide buy with decent tip like 1000 it's quite expensive at 2200, Senso like level. Tao , if he is still working there is in my opinion one of 5 masseurs I had in LOS based on total of 11 encounters but there were members who acted on my recommendation and weren't as impressed as me , one of those cases ' go and try for yourself" Only bad thing I can say about BBB Inn is that they should wash window drapers more often. On other hand I 'm always impressed with efficiency of A/C in the room.

yes , for me Long Time is important simply because I like to wake up with boy beside me and I'm prepared to pay for it. To avoid time confusion I don't use term ' till morning " but rather ' till breakfast" and true to form I usually invite them to accompany me for breakfast ( and by the way I ALWAYS ask my long time offs before we go to the room if they want eat something). In very rare occasion when boys did not stick to their part of bargain and wanted to leave early I either gave them said 1000 even if normally I tip more for a short time or if tipped agreed amount I was never shy to voice politely my displeasure like ' if you must , go, go but I'm very disappointed" - they sometimes get a message.

Good that you clarified but since obviously it created confusion, perhaps before locking thread you can edit passage in question in original post to something like below:

will not recall, I'm sorry but definitely he did not mean farangs nor Africans but some Asian but whether they were young Timor Lesteans or old Bhutanese or other way around , kill me , I don't remember.

congratulations on successful ending on renovations of Bank of Bucknaway as you said in OP. 1000 baht is 25 40 baht tips - a lot of smiles can be created for just 30 USD.

I found that best cure of such situation instead of heading for escape is to call one boy over ,buy him a drink , have few indecent touches and nerves are calming very fast secured in feeling that good deed was just done and merit earned

Hero move to a place called Super Hero in Sukhumvit soi , I think 71 was short lived if one can call even that a move - just several of their boys moved there when old location closed . Year or so later MyHero opened in former Hero location at end of Sukhumvit soi 11 so in short ., My Hero is just reincarnated and spruced up Hero in the same place, glass wall is still there and muscular boys are smiling and flexing at you just like before. Not sure they re-opened small restaurant they had on premises though.

but we should be careful not to blame boys for such attitude as they may know from experience that many of their clients want just quick , release and they are losing interest right after. It's why communicating time expectancy is so important to me. One of more popular Tawan boys even told me which demographic group is particularly keen on fast deeds in his opinion but I don't recall whom he pointed.

that's very unkind and it's not how z909 was supposed to be thanked for his hard work. While subject is old and often discussed is great to have all that information systematized and placed in one piece- prime candidate for our ' Timeless " part of forum. We old hands should remember that there always newbies lurking for information which may be obvious and boring to some but completely new to others. And even old hands may pick up some novel idea which never crossed their mind before - me favorite example is not even boy related - on baht bus heading to Jomtien airport bus station guy chatted me about being anxious no to miss my flight and was greatly surprised that I'm taking airport bus just because I think is easiest and fastest way for me to get to Bangkok.

one can have both , plans and boy. Quite a few times I secured boy by paying off fee right away and telling him or mamasan I will pick him up at such and such time. I'm not jealous and if they have extra business in meantime I'm all happy for them.

while idea and advice is great it's good to remember that mamasans and boys are using the same trick to plant uninvited beside us either because they mixed us with somebody else or they hope this is fastest way to domesticate somebody wide-eyed, obviously new. this is why z909 advised to be prepared with exact change, bars are dimly lit, our heads may be a little under influence of those drinks and sometimes is confusion about unfamiliar currency , patron thinks he gave 1000 and is getting change from 500. I also have a custom of paying for drinks as it goes instead of waiting to final bill at end of visit as math is not where waiter are strongest , specially when drink price is something like 170 or 280.

Yes, that is my lesson of so many Thai trips - if I really like a boy, I should see him as much as I can afford and he has patience for. Next trip or even next week he may be gone or may not seem so attractive or may have another favorite customer and I will be ignored. For some boys of particular beauty I'm even ready to abandon my usual rule of not offing boys not paying any attention to my presence although I found that tipping boy , say 100 , when he is still on the stage miraculously extracts that elusive smile not only right away but also several minutes later which makes easier to invite him for an initial interview .

welcome to the forum in Bangkok don't forget Moonlight bar, to massage places listed I add Senso and My Hero

now you know why I, when offing a boy usually secure length of time we will be together, I don't want any 'you cum , I go" type of attitude